Ouchy

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Well their are two version and you can mix and match us much as you like. But yews would only be an option if you were super rich. Disagree with all of that. You only need 1 tinderbox, and where you put it is up to you. The 3 yews behind Varrock castle are always populated so that is why i didn't add them in. When i mean populated i mean more populated then the ones in Edgeville.

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hypercam. hands down

Use firefox. I have both ie 7 and firefox and i find firefox prevents way more pop up. Just for the record tip.it gives my no pup ups.

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awesome guide! Finally understand it. If i was p2p and had those stats i would use it always =]

thanks but i did it anyway =]

Thanks for that. I'll update it in a second and mention you in the new thanks and correction section

lol could i guess but its fun to be sarcastic =]

pretty nice guide im gonna favourite and start using it!

OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH! I HAVE RALLY NEEDED A BANNER! I WILL MENTION YOU IN MY THANKS LIST NOW

Lol if party hat prices are the only things you are complaining about then thanks =] Im glad it gave you a laugh =]

i applaud you =D> for making a guide but at the same time i shame you :notalk: This isn't really much of a guide. It only includes the basics. I would of thoguht it would have things like idk,idc,ge,brb,gtg,afk etc. and actual slang but not this

Ouchy's F2P Guide To Firemaking and Woodcutting! Written by: Ouchy_S Table Of Contents Starting Off Recommended Clothes And Inventory Training Spots For Woodcutter-banking you logs Training Spots For Woodcutters-dropping or burning your logs Places To Burn Inventory Set-Up Types Of Tree's Types of Log's *NEW* Wood Cutting For Profit Fire Making-Slower and Cheaper Version Fire Making-Faster and More Expensive Version Keep Your Cool How To Beat Bordem Someone Stole My Line!!! Thanks and Corrections Tips And Tricks FAQ Starting Off [hide=]First off you must decide whether you are going for fire making, wood cutting or both. If just fire making you must have a fair wad of cash kiddies. Not just 20 gp. But at least 1m+ depending on your goal level. You must also decide whether you want quick and fast and expensive way to level which involves using logs to the best of your ability that have high exp or go a bit slower for cheaper with more experience using logs lower than what you can burn. OoOoOo. Hard isn't it? For wood cutters you must have the right axe and possibly the attack level to wield it if you want to get 1 more log each run. You must also decide if you are going to drop your preciouses or bank them. Cash or experience? But if you are doing both you must decide if you are going to use the logs that you chop to burn your li'l fingers off or buy additional logs. Both of these skills take time and money. Don't expect to reach you goal over night. Work for it you lazy bums![/hide] Recommended Inventory And Clothes Clothes And Inventory for Fire Makers. [hide=]When Fire Making, your should try and stay as light as possible, so that you can run for longer from the bank, to the start of the line, and bank. If clothes are too heavy, you are going to be losing too much experience. I'm not going to tell you that you should wear "XXX" clothes, because any that are light weight will do the trick. Here is a simple example of a light weight set up. Your inventory can be set up, however you choose it too be. There is no point in saying "Have it like, ra ra ra!", because different people require a inventory. Myself, I only need one tinderbox, but others like to use 2+[/hide] Clothes And Inventory for Wood Cutters [hide=]Wood Cutting works on the same principal as Fire Making, light weight clothes. Any light weight clothes will do, so I'm not going to tell you to wear "XXX" Here is a simple example of what I would wear: The axe can either be wielded, or it can be left in your inventory. You can use a shield if you want to so that you have protection from Random Events, but bear in mind that this will make your slower, so you will get less experience.[/hide] Training Spots for Wood Cutters-banking your logs [hide=With Picture's][Levels] Start off in the forest next to Draynor village. Get used to Draynor Village and its trees because you are going to be here a lot. It is full of normal trees so you little munchikns can start your chopping dreams! When you have a full inventory go to the bank and ,well, bank! Alternatively you can cut here: Head over to the Grand Exchange and just outside the entrance there is this mother load of tree's. Bank when needed [Levels] Same place, different tree. Go to the forest next to Draynor and chop oaks till you are level 35. If you stop at 30 and start chopping Willows you will find it looooong and PAINFUL :wall: ! Once again bank your logs. [Levels] Yes. Oh noes! Guess where are you? Draynor Village! Never been here before have you? Start chopping the willows by the water. This area is usually crowded so change world when necessary and bank when necessary. If you are a level 3 skiller watch out for the dark wizards that are there for the level 3 bots-which have died. Stay near the back if this is you you silly skiller! [Levels] Yes! It's True! Your finally out of Draynor! Now your up with the big boys. Chopping yews. It can at times be slow but you can go back to your little willows if you want :shame: nah i'm just kidding! :thumbsup: . Head over to Edgeville and chop the two Yews inside in the crumbling house. Ekk! If there are two many people then simply change worlds. Bank when needed.[/hide] [hide=Without Picture's][Levels 1-20-35] For the first few levels, you are going to use one of the following areas; Draynor Forest, and the South Varrock Forest. Draynor/Lumbrige: To get to Draynor/Lumbridge Forest, walk EAST from Draynor Village, or WEST from Lumbridge Castle. This is a huge area, and there are lots of trees here, so competition should not be an issue. Make sure that you stay close to Draynor or Lumbridge, or else you will have a further distance to walk. This forest has both Normal and Oak Trees, so you can stay here up to Level 35. Grand Exchange: To get to the Forest by the Grand Exchange, walk up to the South Entrance/Exit (The one by the two big hands holding money), and Walk SOUTH EAST. You should immediately be in the forest, which has many Trees to cut. The Forest has both of the necessary trees, so you can stay here to Level 35. [35-70-99] For these levels, we will be using Willow's, and we are going to be focusing on ONE town, but TWO spots. Draynor Village. The first spot that we will be using is directly SOUTH of the bank, and is EAST of the Fishing Spot. There are five trees here for you to choose from, but I would recommend that you try to hop around the trees, or focus on two trees that are right next to each other. The other alternative spot is a little further away from the bank, but it makes up for it, as there is usually no one there. The spot is located SOUTH of the Farming Patch, and EAST of the pub/bar. There are four tree's here, so you can get your inventory very quickly. [70-99] For these final level's, we have a choice of FOUR areas. We will be using Yew Trees. Port Sarim: This spot is SOUTH of the Cabbage Patch, and NORTH EAST of the Farming Patch. There is usually no one there, and if you have the Lumbridge Explorers Ring 3, then the time it takes to get to the Tree's is greatly cut down. No pun intended. Varrock: This spot is often always packed, so it might not always be the best alternative. To get to it, go to the EAST Grand Exchange Entrance/Exit, and keep waking EAST, above the castle. You should immediately hit one Yew Tree, with the others a few clicks away. Edgeville: Like the Varrock spot, this is often used, and should be a last alternative. To get to it, walk to the hut, SOUTH of Edgeville Bank, and walk round to the trees. This spot can have lots of people, but it can also have very little, so world hopping is a must. Falador: This spot is one the of the best. It is close to a bank, and there is rarely more than five people there. To get to it, exit Falador via the SOUTH Exit/Entrance, and then walk immediate WEST or EAST to go to one of the trees. It is advised that you stick with one tree, but if there is only a few people, then you can use both.[/hide]Training Spots for Wood Cutters-Dropping or burning your logs [hide=With Pictures][Levels] Head over to the forest North Of Alkaharid, South of Varrock, and East of the The Champion's Guild. Once again get familiar with your surrounding's as you gonna be here for a long time. Chop the normal trees till you are fill and drop or burn when you need to. Burn from along the path just after the gate to Al Kahrid Alternatively you can cut here: Head over to the Grand Exchange and just outside the entrance there is this mother load of tree's. [Levels] Same place dummy! Just chop oaks! Gosh! You got like 3 feet of air! Drop or burn when needed [Levels] Head over to Draynor Village and follow the wall to Port Sarim by the farming patch. Chop the willows. These are rarely used anymore as the bots that used them left-for now =p. Drop when needed. Also head down behind the prison in Port Sarim. There are a few trees here for you kiddies! South of Rimmington there are also a few willows to chop and get splinters in your li'l fingies =] I recommend these willows as they are close to a general store and have a good clean run at fire making: [Levels] You are close young one! Head over to Melzars Maze in Rimmington and chop the yew tree's beside it. Drop or burn when necessary. Burn from the start of the path, just don't have a bath! [/hide] [hide=Without Pictures][1-20-35] For these first few Levels, we will be focusing on two spots, both in/near Varrock. The first spot is just SOUTH of Varrock. To get it to, either walk NORTH from Alkahrid or Lumbridge, or SOUTH from Varrock. There is both Normal and Oak Tree's here, so you can stay there up to 35. To burn your logs, simply walk to the fence, and walk over the to entrance into Alkaharid, and start Fire Making. This should give you a good clean line so that you can go with being interrupted. The second spot is located SOUTH of the Grand Exchange, right by the entrance. To get to the forest by the Grand Exchange, walk up to the South Entrance/Exit (The one by the two big hands holding money), and Walk SOUTH EAST. You should immediately be in the forest, which has many Trees to cut. The Forest has both of the necessary trees, so you can stay here to Level 35. [35-70-99] For these levels, we have a choice of THREE spots, all fairly close to each other. We will be using Willow Trees. Rimmington: This is probably the best spot there is. To get to it, walk WEST from Port Sarim, or SOUTH from Rimmington. This spot is the best for efficient training once you hit about Level 45, but lots of people use it. It is good, as there is a clear Fire Making line, and you can sell your logs to the General Store, which saves you more time Port Sarim: This spot is not so common, but is still very efficient to use. To get there, walk SOUTH of the prison/jail, and you will be there. Unfortunately, there is no where to Fire Make, as there is not a clear line here. The spot is still good though! Draynor: This spot is SOUTH of the Cabbage Patch, and NORTH EAST of the Farming Patch. It is not so common, so you get more Expereince, but there is only 4 Trees. To Fire Make, walk NORTH past the Farming Patch, onto the designated 'path', and start Fire Making. [70-99] For the last few Levels, we are going to focus on one spot. Melzars Maze. To get there, walk NORTH WEST from Rimmington, or WEST from the Rimmington Mine. There are plenty of trees here, and usually no competition. Unfortunately, there is no uninterrupted Fire Making line.[/hide] Places to Burn [hide=]Edgeville: Pros: Near to bank, lots of space to burn Cons: Not as close to a bank as the Grand Exchange, gets a bit lonely as there aren't as many people there. Grand Exchange: Pros: Doesn't get lonely, lots of space to burn, very close to bank Cons: Noob-cakes trade you asking to buy burnt meat xD Draynor Village: Pros: Doesn't get very lonely. Close to a bank Cons: Only one to two lines available. Falador West Bank: Pro's: Many people can burn there, big open space, next to a bank. Cons: None. Varrock West Bank: Pro's: Right in the action so it doesn't get lonely, close to a bank. Cons: Only 2 lines available. Duel Arena: Pro's: Very close to bank, and quick access, not much competition. Cons: Only two lines available. Fist Of Guthix: Pro's: Close to bank, big area to Fire Make, many lines available. Con's: Can get a bit laggish and the designated worlds.[/hide] Inventory Set Up [hide=]Different people require different inventory set-ups when Fire Making. Some like the traditional one Tinderbox, others like many. There are more ways to Fire Make then listed here, you can experiment yourself, although I am listing the most common Traditional Set-Up Most people who are new to it use this way. It is alright if you get use to it, but if you change it is hard to go back. Likelihood of Carpal Tunnel: 4/5 Middle Set-Up A lot easier to use then the Traditional set-up, and my personal favourite. It is good because you are never moving your mouse the full distance Likelihood of Carpal Tunnel: 3/5 "Inverted" Traditional Set-Up I have never tried this myself, but some people say that it is equal to or better than the Middle Set-Up. Looks effective though. Likelihood of Carpal Tunnel: 3/5[/hide] Type Of Trees [hide=] Tree: Exp. Gained: 25 Required level: 1Recommended Level: 1Where to chop: Draynor Forrest General Information: The newby tree that everyone stars off with. Good for chopping when you first start. But when you have your big boy axe you should realise when to stop Oak: Exp. Gained: 37.5 Required Level: 15Recommended: 25Where to Chop: Draynor Forrest General Information: Next step up from your frooby tree. Quite fast and in a plentiful supply for everyone Willow: Exp. Gained: 67.5 Required Level: 30 Recommended: 40Where To Chop: Next To Draynor Bank or South of Rimmington General Information: Arguably the best tree in the F2P world. They are often used by people who are training there Fire Making as well as people training Wood Cutting. My personal favourite tree. Yew: Exp. Gained: 175 Required Level: 60Recommended: 75Where To Chop: South Of Falador. General Information: The slowest tree of the lot. Is quite hard to cut these for experience but they are quite nice for cash, time permitting of course.[/hide] Types Of Logs [hide=] Normal Log: Exp. Gained: 40 Required Level: 1Recommended: 1General Information: The log everyone starts out on. Easy to obtain, not recommended as a training log Oak Log: Exp. Gained: 60 Required Level: 15Recommended:20General Information: Next step up from the Normal Log. Not recommended as a training log Willow Log: Exp. Gained: 90 Required Level: 30Recommended: 35General Information: Most commonly used log. Easy to obtain, recommended as a training log Maple Log: Exp. Gained: 135 Required Level: 45Recommended: 50General Information: These are cut from P2P tree so you can only obtain from a player. Recommended as a training log. Yew Log: Exp. Gained: 202.5 Required Level: 60 Recommended: 65 General Information: The best F2P log available. They are rather expensive so not recommended as a training log.[/hide] Wood Cutting For Profit [hide=]Unfortunately, Wood Cutting for profit is not for everyone. You need to have a high Wood Cutting Level of over 75 to efficiently make efficient money, and 37 Magic is recommended. Where to Wood Cut For Profit? The spots you are going to use are both located South of Falador. We will be using the Rimmington Yews and the Yews South of Falador. IMAGE HERE. I recommend that you bring a Falador Teleport, as it will save time which means more Logs Per Hour. If you follow this method, you can get about 150k+ an hour.[/hide] Fire making-cheaper and slower version [hide=]For 1-15 buy 61 normal logs at roughly 40 ea for 2.5k off the grand exchange For 15-30 buy 183 oak logs for roughly 20 ea for 3.6k off the grand exchange For 30-99 - yes, 30 to 99. Your burning willows baby! Buy 144,679 willows at roughly 20 ea for 2.96m off the exchange. For45-99 buy 96,096 Maple Logs for 3.84m These prices are always shifting but the amout of logs needed will always be true, unlike you =)[/hide] Fire making-more expensive and faster version [hide=]For 1-15 buy 61 normal logs at roughly 40 ea for 2.5k off the grand exchange For 15-30 buy 183 oak logs for roughly 20 ea for 3.6k off the grand exchange For 30-45 buy 535 willows for roughly 20 ea for 10.7k For 45-60 buy 1573 maples for 50 ea for 78.8k For 60-99 buy 63,016 yews for 418 ea for 26m-yes the price of a party hat![/sarcasm] These prices are always shifting but the amount of logs needed will always be true, unlike you =)[/hide] Keep your cool :evil: !! When fire making and wood cutting keep calm! If you are cutting and you never get any logs then just change worlds or tree's. If you are fire making and some one starts to make fires right in front of you stopping you then just let them! Go change worlds. Have a coffee. But what ever you do, do not get emotional How To Beat Bordem Yeap, the most common problem of skilling, bordem. There are few thing you can do to beat it. 1. Listen to music: Yea, 'bout 20 other guides have said it but it does work. It often takes your mind away from the clicking repetitively and makes you calmer 2. Surf the web: Looking at other sites, such as the tip.it forum often relives bordem. Also don't stay on it for too long! 3. Take a walk or do some exercise: Often the best option . It releases endorphins which make you feel better and gets rid of any stress 4. Skill with friends: This is a good option and allows you to chat with friends at the same time Someone Stole My Line! Ah yes, the infamous problem of someone stealing your line. There are many way's to over come this common problem. 1. Fight For your right: If they burn in front of you, burn in front of them. Sometimes, just spam them, yell at mindless junk and keep trading them. Another thing is to tell them that you were there first. 2. Change World: Probably and the easiest of them. Won't make you look like an idiot, but one is still fun =P Thanks and corrections Tip.It for there calculators to work out the prices and number of logs necessary. Thanks to Xx_Psychotic for suggesting the willows south of Port Sarim. Thanks to zaaps1 for suggesting the willows south of rimmigton and the correction in the title Thanks To BiJay for giving a detailed description on how to burn your logs Thanks To Aludron For Giving Me Permission to use some images in the types of logs and tree's section's Thanks to Legosimx for suggesting the tree's outside the grand exchange. Tips And Tricks When firemaking to save time and to stop having to constantly stop and burn the logs you can only to stop burn once then you are on a clean stretch. Burn your first log like normal and then click on your tinder box. As soon as the fire is lit click on the next log and you should instantly start another fire. Repeat this to the end to save time and get more exp. in an hour. Eg. Click Box - Click Log - Click Next Log - Click Box - Click Box - Click Log - Click Next Log - Click Box - ... FAQ Q. I read in a guide that when using a snow globe it destroys a fire making area. Is this true? A. Well, yes and no. It used to be true during the Christmas Event in 2007 but since then the event has been removed and it is no longer a problem =]

Its fine the way it is. and plus if you had noted ores you could still oly make 26 or how ever many

good on you! hope you make it YAY F2P BLOGS ARE HAWT!!!

good luck mate! (im so cool 3 words is all i need to say =])

good luck getting into the top 2k! it will be hard work

Dont quit :( If anything, go P2P! There's loads to do! So much new skills to explore and everything. I think you'd have great time on P2P. Thanks Im not gonna quit, just yet. P2P is an option i guess

good luck with your blog=] yay first post! btw awesome stats =] post on my blog?

thanks i have found some more fun things and have set some new goals. Check 'em out! =]

thanks i have taken up new skills now like crafting, mining and smithing thanks

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