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What's your point? :-s It's still an atheistic religion. Regardless if there are atheistic religions or not does not disprove the fact that atheism is not a religion. I decided to decide my own purpose. :) In other words, I decided not to let somebody else decide my purpose for me. So if a calculator became self-aware it could choose a purpose other than one that involves calculating stuff?

Psychologically speaking the very environment I was raised in. If you were raised in a different environment, your opinions, thoughts, religion most probably wouldn't be the same as it is now. Would you like me to go further and explain the different parts of the brain in development for you or something? What is your purpose?

Nobody can believe that surely. Even those who only do eat, work, reproduce, pay taxes and die complete whatever life purpose they have desired. I can give you many examples: The girl who was sexually assaulted as a child may grow to become an officer of a child protection agency and has completed her life purpose of saving many kids from this kind of abuse. The guy who was told he was never good enough as a child may grow to become the best of the best. His life purpose might have been to graduate in the top 5% of the state and earn his much respected "Dr." title. The person, who was brought up in a very Conservative family, may grow to become a messenger of God. His life purpose might have been to share God's message and to help people get in to heaven. The girl who was sexually assaulted did not choose to be sexually assaulted therefore she did not choose her own purpose. And so on for the rest of your examples..

No one tells you your life purpose, you decide it yourself. Usually some people choose it from the obstacles and growth they've endured. For example, the father who grew up in a broken home who is battling to raise his 3 kids, eat, work, sleep and die. His life purpose was to raise his kids better than his own father raised him. Who decided that you decide your own purpose?

Well... You might just as well ask any human or animal who has ever lived on Earth. Why are we any different from animals (we are specificly a species of mammals), just because of our intelligence capacity? For example, chimpanzees can understand their own existence, and are capable of compassion, love, sharing... Do they have a soul and afterlife? They share 99% of our genes, they just don't have developed vocal chords to create a story around their possible beliefs. If you look at the life of any average person to have lived in history, his meaning of life was to eat, work, reproduce, pay taxes and die. Now he's decomposed in a graveyard. Did he have a soul which traveled to some 'underworld' or 'heaven'? Up to faith... But biologically, all that happens is his living functions ceasing, and electronic waves and currents in his brain stop all activity in all parts of his body. Thank you for being coherent Blue. You will never understand how much I appreciate you right now. Are you saying that the purpose of life is to eat, work, reproduce, pay taxes and die? If someone is told that his purpose is to feed all of the starving children in the world but all he does is eat, work, reproduce, pay taxes and die, does he fulfill his purpose?

Atheists may not find meaning but they find meaning? That is a contradiction. Your argument has no ethos. No, it is not. Read and comprehend. There may not be an obvious meaning to their lives. But they find meaning in other places besides faith in the divine. You, with your narrow-mindedness, may not see it. But they do. I'm not being narrow-minded. I'm trying to understand what the purpose of life is if there is no faith or afterlife. Why are we here?

Because Atheists don't have an alternative viewpoint of meaning/purpose. There simple response is there is no meaning/purpose. There is no divinely instilled meaning or purpose. Atheism affirms that. What Atheism doesn't affirm is that life has meaning and purpose. If you are trying to hint that there is purpose/meaning for Atheism what is it? Why are we alive? Saying that we enjoy life and that we exist does not answer that question.

Atheists don't have religion. They don't believe in faith and don't believe in an afterworld. Buddhists have religion. But they don't have an afterworld. Atheism is too simple to be confusing. Because Atheists don't have an alternative viewpoint of meaning/purpose. There simple response is there is no meaning/purpose. Atheists may not find meaning but they find meaning? That is a contradiction. Your argument has no ethos.

Those "electrical signals" are all we've got. What a nonsense, you make it sound like atheists are living meaningless, miserable lives. Atheists have meaning in their life. Atheists just define, what the meaning is themselves. In my case, having a meaningful life means, it's a happy, eventful life. FYI, I wouldnt class myself atheist but maybe a some sort of agnostic. Look at the context of the usage of "no meaning". In an atheist viewpoint there is no purpose and no reason to life other than the simplistic answer "to exist". Which is not a real answer.

-_-". Buddhism. You are comparing apples and oranges. Let's take a moment and look at words. Christian: "Christ's ones," that is, believers in Christ. In Acts 11:26 it says that "the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch. Even though the word has nothing to do with God or belief in an afterlife, Christians still believe in these things. Atheists: Atheismentails the absence of belief in the existence of God or other deities.Absence of belief:*"Atheists are people who do not believe in a god. From looking at the definitions of both words we have not ruled out all the beliefs of each groups. Use context. Every Atheist I have ever met in real life say, a.) they don't believe in God b.) they don't believe in faith c.) they don't believe in an afterworld.

I guess it's different for everyone. A few reasons for helping others... 1. I get a good feeling inside whenever I help others and act kindly. 2. I find it unfair that some people are born less fortunate than me, so I choose to help some of those people when I can. 3. I believe that the more we cooperate and help each other the more advanced our species will become. 4. When I finally die, I want to die knowing I've done good things while I was alive, while still managing to enjoy my life to the fullest. You just described electrical signals sent to your brain. How does that have anything to do with meaning? There is still no meaning. There is no point to what you are doing, you are just doing it.

There are some atheists who believe in the afterlife. Atheism, as has already been mentioned, only means disbelief in higher beings. It doesn't suggest anything to do with other aspects, such as meaning or afterlife. Wrong. Atheists disbelieve in religion and faith along with God. You can't say that you don't believe that NASA exists but say that you believe NASA sent spaceships to the moon. Atheists are against having meaning in their life.

The Christian God is very real only in the eyes of a Christian. Also, I'm surprised that you label God as a "person" -- a mere human. I was referring to God as a person because He is personified in the bible.

I don't understand the point of this argument. If people believe in God or not does not mean He does or does not exist. Christians who say they believe in the LORD God aren't saying they believe in something that they conjured in their minds. When a Christian says he believes in God it means they believe in a very real person. Christianity isn't Platonism. I don't understand the point of atheism. And I quote: "If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that is has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never known it was dark. Dark would be a word without meaning." - C.S. Lewis from is book Mere Christianity.

Why does it matter? We are who we are and can only strive to be better. Leave it at that.

Yes but theres a huge diffrence between A language thats used in everyday life and joining the fanclub of a popular book. And if your Chirstan you should read and pray every day. USA isn't an English nation, it was also inhabited by dutch, germans, scandinavians, italians, spaniards, irish, scottish, asian, north african... It's not self explanatory, hence the USA has no official language. O RLY? I guess my Civics teacher must be wrong, and my sate legislature. :roll: I thought to become a citizen from another country, you had to learn basic US history, English (Spelling & writing) :? You are correct, but when becoming a citizen was legal back then they learned basic English, I mean very very basic and some history. After time they forgot about it. Unless if its the 1800s because I dont think they had to learn basic English or history. Me personally, dont see the problem with not learning English. It is a 'free' country and we're entitled to speak our own language if we wish. The test to become a u.s. is in English. You may not have to speak English to have a green card though.

level eight. the hint is: what is in me? some reason I don't think its going to be to difficult. but I can't for the life of me figure it out, hints please.

any hints? level 5 was pretty difficult, but just remember that you need to do some sort of conversion/base calculation.

There appears to be an error in this phrase, or maybe its just an oxymoron.

And therefore no scientific argument can be applied to God. That argument is stupid. It requires you're beleif in God to prove God. if no scientific argument can be applied to God then he can't be disproven, if he can't be disproven you can't disprove the bible.

that doesn't make any sense.. very few people wear what they don't want to now a days. I try to wear nicer clothes because cheap clothes fit funny.

@Satenza and Tigra: If you don't admit, when you know you are obviously wrong, why should any one believe anything you say?

I never said God created it, so he can change. I also never said science doesn't have to correlate with religion. But I will state now that they do correlate. I never said that because, Einstein, is a brilliant man that it makes religion right. I was just using Einstein as an example of common sense. Someone on this topic said that religion and common sense don't go hand in hand.

@ the science argument: This is by far atheists favorite argument. Christianity is a fallacy because it cannot correlate with science or common sense. It is the Christian belief that God created everything, that includes science. The reason why the atheists (or non believers) find this argument so sound proof is because of the Christian belief: God created everything, so Christianity must correlate with science. Then they try to prove that science and Christianity do not correlate. And the way they prove this is by saying that Christianity doesn't correlate with science, which is circular reasoning. The only way the science argument cannot be considered a fallacy is by actually proving it without circular reasoning. Go for it. "I have found no better expression than "religious" for confidence in the rational nature of reality, insofar as it is accessible to human reason. Whenever this feeling is absent, science degenerates into uninspired empiricism." -Einstein Probably one of the very few men that most people can agree was the greatest scientist of all time. If not the greatest, one of the greatest. He is one of the most inspired men of all time. He goes on to admit in an article that he is in fact, Jewish and religious. He also states that Jesus Christ is real, and what he did was real. What do you think? (if you want some of those article clips about Einstein saying Jesus was real, and he was religious PM me and I'll send them to you. They are to long to post.)