barbwireboy3

Between a Rock... is a pre-quest for the hand cannon that gives 5k Defence xp as a reward. If you haven't done it I would suggest not doing it unless you want to get 46 or 47 Defence. Depends, theres 6.4k exp between 45 and 46. Assuming he hasnt trained at all over 45, and he is pretty safe not to train it at all, then he could do it.

I dont know about hand cannon, but ill check for you. Vengeance you need to do lunar diplomacy. EDIT: Forgiveness of a Chaos Dwarf for hand cannon.

You still suck though...<3 Hurry up and finish questing@

From what ive heard They're not really that efficient for training at higher levels. But, if you have the invent space then why not? While not being efficient, they could help you get abit of extra exp towards levels, especially with large amounts.

Ill have a look at other stuff then, thanks :3 Also, any answers for the mage question?

1)Ive been doing barrows alot lately, and have got a decent setup. But i need to know if there is anyway to change this to make it better. Currently, i have around a 7.5m bank, this being 5.5m of it. So, i have around 1.5m-2m to improve it. Current setup is this: Uploaded with ImageShack.us I use pray on karil and dh, aswell as ahrim if i have it leftover. I blitz all the melee brothers aswell as karil usually. I use dds on ahrim and then range. I use whip for tunnels. I usually get 3 chests or so per trip, which isnt as much as the sally method, but is alot faster. Any tips on this? 2) I want to get mage up to 94 or 95 soon. Im about 10k exp off 88 mage so ill get that in abit from barrows. What would be the best way with spending about 5m max? Ive done lunar + dream mentor aswell. Thanks :3 Edit: Fixed a mistake :3

You need 66 thieving(curse of arrav) not 54 :3 Other than that though, pretty good list. You should work on making a guide, theres not many good/updated ones around :P

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Its pretty useful to get around 8 kc if your using ancients, reaally cuts down on the amount of runes you use.

I wouldn't be too sure about that, karil has amazingly low mage defence for some reason. Try maging him first, but if it isnt going well then try melee. However, i doubt that will be much better.

Well, ive finished summers end. So, I decided to go pick white berries and i found a problem. If the cave is collapsed in the spirit world, after i teleport to corp cave and leave it automatically takes me to the spirit realm. If the cave is collapsed in the real world, after i teleport to corp cave and leave, I cant get back into it. Have i missed something? Any ideas? :L

Theres usually a few level 70-80s to kill, you may need to hop a couple times though. Also, ancients isnt needed. Usually just a dds spec kills them.

Why is that? Presumably to make sure you don't attack anybody accidentally.

It is a safe area, as is summers end.

I believe the fc/cc (not sure which) for no kill is called fastsc. Easily the best way.

Veracs is pretty bad for barrows tbh, especially compared to maging. Plus, he doesn't have piety. Maging is the best way to go with whip/ddef for ahrim/karil. You could even Mage karils, as suprisingly he has really low Mage defence.

That's how I get my Easy's. Takes less than 10 minutes, unless your unlucky. Usually not even that, i can usually get a clue in 5 mins, finish it in 2 mins and be back in a couple.

Heres the link: http://users.telenet.be/glodenox/Charms/CharmPattern.html This lets you put in your current exp and the amount of charms you have. It will show you the furthest you can make it and how to get there.

Search for charm pattern, it's a program that let's you put in your current exp and the amount of charms you have and says exactly how far youu will get. I would link but I'm on iPod :(

It has been March 2010-September 2010-March 2011 meaning it should be this september if it follows the pattern.

Nevermind :)

About time someone made a guide for this :P One thing though, can i ask why you snare them in the first couple kills?

Shame it doesnt work now :(

If you mean that route for just herb farming, then i dont see what you mean by bumping into problems with full invents. If its just herb farming (which i cant tell if it is or not) then there is no reason to ever get a full invent?