I disagree. I did almost 1,000 hours of PVP from 70-99 defence, playing dozens of hours at each level, and I noticed a huge difference. DD++ specs will tear through a 105 combat\80 defence player in rune, but I don't even bother using them on 99 defence\300+ slash; I hit more with the flail then constant specs. I'm inclined to value 1,000 hours of PvP over a few isolated tests. I might have to try pking sometime... Do so, or just believe compfreak. When he speaks he does so when he has the data to back it up. EDIT: though i'm not sure how a tank ranger has +300 slash... maybe around 250... My PERSONAL range tank setup: Now obviously, that's for safe; I specialize in safe PVP, so it's a bit more then you might want to risk in BH :P However, it's easy to construct a much cheaper setup that still does a good job. Remember, your going to be hitting any 1 defence pure much faster then they can eat, so they'll be lucky to make it to the exit (your vengance takes care of their first attack ;) ): Protect item for DFS; if you think that's too risky, you can drop down to rune kite, which will give you 27 less slash (252). im supposed to wear that pking? thats a lot of money