RandomKnight

Ya the quest tend to be better when the requirements are high ...of course i could do without the farming requirements

Ya as much as i love quest-points to sig-im glad we arnt getting lots of useless quest that are more time consuming than anything...if that made sense

You have 65 woodcutting, so you could try cutting yews and selling them till mages, but the runecrafting natures sounds like the best course of action (300k an hour huh? *grabs pure ess* : )

We realy need to stop callin eachother m4tty before this topic gets locked u like the last one (i think i might of had somthing to do with that so my apologies :oops: ) OT: ya it can get pretty agrivating when some one messes with you and your friends boss killing, and yes he ptrobaly should have swiched worlds-but: 1)He made a mistake, and it was handled a little different than it could have been... 2)And i'm going to sound like every other person but its true-Nobody owns the GWD

well...i suppose there are some exceptions, lol :lol:

But you still agree it's not fun when someone with simular stats to you flips on their prayer, right? Or even if that pure happens to have 52 prayer, and protects right back? Since I don't like others doing that, I don't do it myself. That's just my thang. If I don't think I'm going to win a fight, I leave before I would need prayer or teletabs. Yeah, that will go over well, "excuse me, i think im going to lose, can i leave?" :roll: -now i know-no one would be stupid enough to ask that, But youve said before not to go into a battle with the mineset that your going to lose, so why retreat unless your close to loseing? i dont think youll live to fight again if your close to death and choose to run away normaly and not tele, but hey! you pk like you want-its your account, and your right to pk... PS: if they want to swich on prayer i dont mind-its a skill, they can use it if they want

I didn't call you stupid, but honestly, if that was sarcasm, its not the best I've seen... :-k Anyway, I don't think you, or anybody else that pks, pks just to waste sharks and watch 15s and 10s for the fun of it. Of course anybody will prefer tieing to dying...but if you switch on your prayer almost every single time you start a fight, forcing a tie, that just sorta says you must be thinking that your only two options were tieing with prayer or dying... I'm not going to say if you're a "real pker" or not, but if all the stuff you do in the wildy is more like being "player splattered", not "player killing", and you need prayer just to tie in most fights, you can't really call yourself a "pker" - "player killer" - can you? Whether or not that's you, I can't say, but that's the meaning behind the term. Yeah sarcasms never been my thing... : Yes pking is "player killing", which is what i do when i pk...(ihope that made sense) i got that. But i never said this is how i pk: "oh, that person looks like a good person to fight" i start to charge "whoops, almost forgot to protect from _____" then i swich on prayer. No, I use prayer only when the situation calls for it-not everytime i go after someone. And maybe i go up against a pure-look at my stats...im far from being a pure so i could be at a disadvantage. Now if the pure i maight be fighting dosnt train in prayer much (Im aware it takes 8 lvls to lvl combat but still) If i decide to turn on prayer so will he...but if they dont have the protect froms...see what im getting at?

Because it doesn't go anywhere. Praying in a 1v1 fight makes you almost unkoable, and because that forces the other person to pray, nobody is going to win that fight and it's wasting time. well if thats how they see it they dont have to pray...no ones making them Don't be stupid. We don't pray, unless someone else forces us to, and if somebody prays from me, I'm not going to leave mine off just so "somebody dies". I honestly can't believe you suggested that... :roll: Im sorry but Dont YOU be stupid, I was being sarcastic in my last comment, Obviously if i pray theres a huge chance they'll pray back and why is that? because no one is going to have a battle were they would rather die than no one win-i think most would choose tie>die, so if i want to pray because thats how i pk its not disrespectfull, its how i pk. you guys could go on saying im not a 'real' pker, or that its disrespectfull-but neither of thoes statements are true... (btw: if some one does somthing such as pray, and you pray back, its not us forcing you to pray, i dont see anyone grabing your mouse and cliking prayer-and you could say im being stupid for this aswell-i could care less...)

Because it doesn't go anywhere. Praying in a 1v1 fight makes you almost unkoable, and because that forces the other person to pray, nobody is going to win that fight and it's wasting time. well if thats how they see it they dont have to pray...no ones making them

Sheesh...here I run over the same old stuff I said before... Pking is fun because you kill people. When one person prays, forcing the other person to pray, nobody dies - that's not fun. Yes, it's being disrespectful by taking someone else's time...just like closing doors on people and answering someone's questions wrong. It's not fun when you have a crappy connection and some idiot keeps closing the door so you can't go anywhere. It's disrespectful. As for your "options", I'll answer b and d; I do deal with it. I'm starting to agree more and more with 124's analysis of your personality. You enter things admitting defeat. Not only in your gear and what you pack and how you pk, but even with comments such as "I'm not going to handicap myself for a dead system". That's where we differ. Where you think "It'll never happen, I'm not even going to try", I think "It's not going to happen, unless somebody takes a step in that direction." I do things. Even if I'm the minority, I do it. I don't plan to fail, I shoot for success, even if the odds are low. I'm not a defeatest. Hmm, i never thought of it that way before...makes alot of sense-next time i go pking ill try that out :-k but i sill dont get how praying in the wild is disrespectful, i can see how the battle would be alot longer, but it dosnt mean your disrespecting them for 'taking up there time'...

Whatever floats your boat.. But how is teleporting doing anything at all to "take me down" seems like by running away you have done exactly the opposite. We frankly could give a damn what you think.. You might want to act like a jerk in the wilderness and thats your right.. If we cant be bothered staying arround to fight your praying teleporting [wagon] then thats our right. He never said hat teleporting was helping him win the fight, he said that he uses it to prevent giving up his pixles... And further more the only one whos being a JERK in the wild, are the ones calling us noobs for useing or skills to kill them, or prevent them from getting our stuff!-No one said you had to fight us! As you have already read, i dont attack skillers, so 90% of the nh players i fight attack me, then they teleport after losing an entire invent of food and several doses of pots. I fail to see what they have achieved. Thats what honour pking is all about, coming out to the wild without already having admitted defeat by losing food to telerunes, or wasting good prayer on protection prayers in a one on one fight. Its all about mindset, if your an amateur you will go out and pray and tag and tele, you are afraid of losing your pixels and in a lot of cases you still lose them anyway becouse the real pker is more prepared. If your a real pker, you dont waste inventory space on tele runes becouse you already know the shortest paths to edge and what obstructions you can use to get away. You dont waste prayer on protections becouse you know the other player will turn his on also making for a long boring fight which niether player can win, you save your prayer for super attack and super str and go for a ko. Talking to people who know nothing about pking about the honour code is nearly impossible, you guys have no idea how much more fun the wild is when you let go of your fear and go out there to kill not be killed. For the last time (and i could care less if you reply back saying diferent)just becaus i use the skills given to us does not mean im an amiture! No, if i choose to bring telerunes as a fallbackplan im still a 'real' pker, oh no, i dont pk like you do so im a little amiture!-ya theres a lot of logic behind that :roll: And before you say that that is what im doing lemme make it clear that i dont doubt that your a pker (and your probaly very good at it), your veiw is different than mine, but your still a pker Yes respect is somthing that we want to see more of in runescape, but its in no way disrespectfull to pray or run in the wild-if it upsets you, i soppose you have some options: A)quit pking-but no one would want to do this, like i said before, your probaly very good at it B)Just deal with it-not everyone pks like you do, and some people will get on your nervs...but thats how life is C)Call them a prayer noob, tele noob, etc. (but isnt that what all this was about from the start?) D)Get everyone to pk exactly like you so we dont waste each others time...yeah, good luck with that... If i were you, and you might disagree, is "B"

Whatever floats your boat.. But how is teleporting doing anything at all to "take me down" seems like by running away you have done exactly the opposite. We frankly could give a damn what you think.. You might want to act like a jerk in the wilderness and thats your right.. If we cant be bothered staying arround to fight your praying teleporting [wagon] then thats our right. He never said hat teleporting was helping him win the fight, he said that he uses it to prevent giving up his pixles... And further more the only one whos being a JERK in the wild, are the ones calling us noobs for useing or skills to kill them, or prevent them from getting our stuff!-No one said you had to fight us!

I third the goblin mail! beads would be cool-but they could be dificult to get alot of...

Im lvl 90 and me and my freinds have gone to GWD many times and think your acting rdiculess-is that good enough? :D I'm sorry but COME ON, if i was in your position i would have felt ashamed of caling myself a ruinescape player, Why are they noobs, because they dissagree with what some troller says? dear god...

i cant count how many times this has happend to me, youd think somewere in here honour code there would be somthing about leaving skillers and treasure trialers alone... Most people you meet at greens or doing a clue scroll are NH, i dont pk skillers. 1)I apologies, i wasn't implying that you personaly killed skillers, i was pretty sure you didn't 2)how would you no most pkers that will go after people killing green dragons, or doing clue scrolls arn't pkers that follow the hounor code-theres no part in it that states against it, just stuff about bringing 200k+ in items and no prayer...i see somthing very strange with this 'hounor' code

i cant count how many times this has happend to me, youd think somewere in here honour code there would be somthing about leaving skillers and treasure trialers alone...

Believe me, you dont know how to pk, if you did your melee stats wouldnt be lvl, your prayer wouldnt be so high and your magic and ranged would be a lot higher. If you so much as step into members wild with your stats your going to get 2 or 3 hit. As for f2p wild, you will last longer but sooner or later if you dont tele some one will r2h ko you, i can see now why you hate honour, honour pkers actually have pk based chars so if you actually fight one your going to lose. I know your going to say that im wrong and that your a great pker so i invite you to fight my lvl 96 p 0 0 0 o p on f2p or p2p. this is exactly what i was hoping you were not thinkin-my stats are not to 'your' standers therefore i 'cant' pk-if you say so... :roll: and no i dont think im a 'great' pker and, hey you might be better at it then i am-but was that i can beat you the point of my post? It wasn't last time i checked... Im saying that your not a pker and your comments on pking are thus flawed, if your not a pker how can you comment on an honour system made by pkers?, thats like a mechanic commenting on a civil engineers plans, he has no idea what he is talking about. Leave pking to pkers, if you want to be one of those weekender type run in and attack some one teleport when you start to lose amateurs, then dont comment on pking. The honour system is fine to the only people that it is designed to be used by, hardcore pkers. [/hide] Listen, i have nohing against you personaly but for the last time-i am a pker-just because i dont live up o you 'standards' dosn't mean im not a pker! i apologize if i seem repetative-but i will continue to defind my status as a pker... And how do you get pks? with your 60 range and mage or your 74 str?. Any real pker your lvl will tear you up, so clearly you dont pk that often. Walking out and attacking some one then teleporting isnt pking.. pking is Player killing Your stats are too weak to kill anyone outside of lag or it being a dm.. And if you dm some one, thats a form of honour.. No honour pkers run from dms. [/hide] Your starting to sound like a broken record, of course so a i, i suppose... : I'm a pker-im not the best, but im good enough to get kills and i get along fine with my skills... edit: and its 63 mage mind you :) Okay guys cool your jets, let's not make this into a fight like it has been for the past 4 and a half pages..... My apologies, i ws just stating my oppinions-ill drop it befor it gets anymore out of hand... :-#

[hide] Believe me, you dont know how to pk, if you did your melee stats wouldnt be lvl, your prayer wouldnt be so high and your magic and ranged would be a lot higher. If you so much as step into members wild with your stats your going to get 2 or 3 hit. As for f2p wild, you will last longer but sooner or later if you dont tele some one will r2h ko you, i can see now why you hate honour, honour pkers actually have pk based chars so if you actually fight one your going to lose. I know your going to say that im wrong and that your a great pker so i invite you to fight my lvl 96 p 0 0 0 o p on f2p or p2p. this is exactly what i was hoping you were not thinkin-my stats are not to 'your' standers therefore i 'cant' pk-if you say so... :roll: and no i dont think im a 'great' pker and, hey you might be better at it then i am-but was that i can beat you the point of my post? It wasn't last time i checked... Im saying that your not a pker and your comments on pking are thus flawed, if your not a pker how can you comment on an honour system made by pkers?, thats like a mechanic commenting on a civil engineers plans, he has no idea what he is talking about. Leave pking to pkers, if you want to be one of those weekender type run in and attack some one teleport when you start to lose amateurs, then dont comment on pking. The honour system is fine to the only people that it is designed to be used by, hardcore pkers. [/hide] Listen, i have nohing against you personaly but for the last time-i am a pker-just because i dont live up o you 'standards' dosn't mean im not a pker! i apologize if i seem repetative-but i will continue to defind my status as a pker... And how do you get pks? with your 60 range and mage or your 74 str?. Any real pker your lvl will tear you up, so clearly you dont pk that often. Walking out and attacking some one then teleporting isnt pking.. pking is Player killing Your stats are too weak to kill anyone outside of lag or it being a dm.. And if you dm some one, thats a form of honour.. No honour pkers run from dms. [/hide] Your starting to sound like a broken record, of course so am i, i suppose... : I'm a pker-im not the best, but im good enough to get kills and i get along fine with my skills... edit: and its 63 mage mind you :)

[hide] Believe me, you dont know how to pk, if you did your melee stats wouldnt be lvl, your prayer wouldnt be so high and your magic and ranged would be a lot higher. If you so much as step into members wild with your stats your going to get 2 or 3 hit. As for f2p wild, you will last longer but sooner or later if you dont tele some one will r2h ko you, i can see now why you hate honour, honour pkers actually have pk based chars so if you actually fight one your going to lose. I know your going to say that im wrong and that your a great pker so i invite you to fight my lvl 96 p 0 0 0 o p on f2p or p2p. this is exactly what i was hoping you were not thinkin-my stats are not to 'your' standers therefore i 'cant' pk-if you say so... :roll: and no i dont think im a 'great' pker and, hey you might be better at it then i am-but was that i can beat you the point of my post? It wasn't last time i checked... Im saying that your not a pker and your comments on pking are thus flawed, if your not a pker how can you comment on an honour system made by pkers?, thats like a mechanic commenting on a civil engineers plans, he has no idea what he is talking about. Leave pking to pkers, if you want to be one of those weekender type run in and attack some one teleport when you start to lose amateurs, then dont comment on pking. The honour system is fine to the only people that it is designed to be used by, hardcore pkers. [/hide] Listen, i have nohing against you personaly but for the last time-i am a pker-just because i dont live up o you 'standards' dosn't mean im not a pker! i apologize if i seem repetative-but i will continue to defind my status as a pker...

Believe me, you dont know how to pk, if you did your melee stats wouldnt be lvl, your prayer wouldnt be so high and your magic and ranged would be a lot higher. If you so much as step into members wild with your stats your going to get 2 or 3 hit. As for f2p wild, you will last longer but sooner or later if you dont tele some one will r2h ko you, i can see now why you hate honour, honour pkers actually have pk based chars so if you actually fight one your going to lose. I know your going to say that im wrong and that your a great pker so i invite you to fight my lvl 96 p 0 0 0 o p on f2p or p2p. this is exactly what i was hoping you were not thinkin-my stats are not to 'your' standers therefore i 'cant' pk-if you say so... :roll: and no i dont think im a 'great' pker and, hey you might be better at it then i am-but was that i can beat you the point of my post? It wasn't last time i checked...

Wat does the number of people needed have to do ith drop prices? theres little stoping them from going down there constantly as it is... On topic: ya it is anoying, especialy when you dont have any friends who want to go there but you can always find a populated world and wait...but that tends to be very time consumeing...

lets look at it this way: Good reasons to not have that update- 1)Friends can pick up your stuff for you in crisis situations 2)if someone dies because they in a sense 'bit off more than they could chew' (not refering to you) then we get some free stuff 3)gave more of a chalenge to the game Good reasons to have the update- 1)allows you to get your stuff before looters In my opinion this update was kinda pointless...but whats done is done unfortunately

The choices weren't very exciting wah wah wah wah? no YOU voted so YOU got what YOU want. You make it sound like every single person voted for the Grim Reaper's hood.. Just let it be, the hood's not all THAT bad. It looks great with quite a few outfits. Lets just hope for once Christmas rolls around they don't release another guaranteed content poll, the surprises are nice, and to some (the original poster) apparently it ruined it for him. I voted for the broom... :-w on topic: ya, the hood turned out to be one of the better ones in my opinion (compared to some others)-like someone said above it covers the face so thats a plusi still wanted the broom...

[hide] Praying and teleporting isnt doing ANYTHING to win, its done to avoid not losing. Winning and not losing are NOT the same thing. When you pray, the other guy prays, and nobody wins, no one can get a kill with a max hit of 10. The same with teleporting, it does NOT help you win, as a matter of fact you lose room you could have used for food by taking tele runes and thus you have increased your chance of losing the fight. But if your not suppose to pk with junk then i would think it would be best to have a back up plan like teleporting so you dont lose all the good stuff your bringing to fight with, it almost seems like your overall point of pking is to make sure that if the other person kills you they get a huge reward-i dont know about the rest of you, but when i pk i go out to try to win, not supply the opponent with a bunch of good stuff if i lose.when pking i would think you (and your team if you have one) would come befor the person your fighting... No becouse if your smart, you will be fighting other honourable pkers who will also not be wearing junk, and if you have teleports they will have more food then you, thus ensuring you lose. 90% of my pks are via ko's, 90% of my deaths are also via ko's. Teleport wont stop you getting koed, and if it does then you need to start wearing skirts becouse you pk like a girl. Safing is also lame, i hate people who are full hp get hit a 15 and eat a shark :? and now we,ve resorted to name calling have we?...if 90% of the kills are Ko'd then theres no reason to bring food, if teleporting wont save you from getting koed then neither will food... And to the part about fighting other honourable players...althogh i hate to say it, Honour died out along time ago... PS: i do see the lack of sense in eating a shark for somthing as low as a 15-waist of food The reason teleporting wont stop you getting koed is becouse most people dont teleport untill they are low on food, a ko can happen when you have an entire invent of food. The reason i said that if a teleport stopped you getting koed then you are a girl is becouse for a teleport to save you from being koed that means instead of having your curser on food or pots or an alternate attack style, you had to have had your cursor over the teleport button the entire time. LEARN TO PK BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT PKING. Sick of every one saying utter garbage like "honour is dead". havnt myself and hutta already said we pk with honour and that we fight other honour pkers often?, you better go to the main dm spots and let the hundreds of people that gather there know that honour is dead, couse no one informed them. [/hide] Or it could mean that were able to relise that we got ourseves into a fight we cant win and were able to swich to the magic menu fast enough (not in DMs obviously, if your in one of them by no means tele-tele+DM=Lying! :evil: ). "LEARN TO PK BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT PKING", i hope you relise that just because someone dosn't follow the 'honour code of pking' that they dont know how to pk... :roll: And let me make it clear that the only reason i fight without the 'honour' code is because the majority of the people i face don't, and im not about to put a handicap on myself for the sake of this 'Honour' code that-I'm sorry but-Is dead!

A arena book for 1-2mill (the 2gp one, not the one bought with points)