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Sometimes when players have no any luck with drop - some drop can raise him spirit, just we allways think it's useless thing and this one i will use somewhere and when you get steel/iron med/shield or etc.. you say.. Trash again! :) Ok This is discussion for this idea and i glad then people think then this is right thing, for sure is important not to make so easy smithing skill or change metal bars prices, just like one guy said how much people playing RuneScape that much exist ways to play this game, in RuneScape possible not one skill and thing to make in few diferent ways and it can be right for smithing skill too.

I think it can be limited to 1 kind item, like you have in inventory steel shortswords and use one on furnance; Or it can't limited to 1 item, just you click on furnance and select type of metal and all stuff from this kind of metal in your inventory smelts to some bars.. Really i think possible to discuss about it.. ADDED AFTER EDIT: I think it can be furnance blast or some other device for example from new quest, you just use stuff on some device then do some actions to smelt it..

Bump - I updated main post :)

Sure, but main thing is then it very logic, in life nobody waste so much ores and all resources people trying to reuse :) Just all we know then sometimes when we train combat we get like drop some iron/steel/mith swords/shields or other useless drop, then we can reuse this like resource and then small lvl people can get some smithing levels training and getting from goblins they bronze sq shields & etc... I think possibility to smelt from some item some bar must be depended from smithing level and from grade of metal and from some random constant, like from Runite you have less chance to get bar then from bronze:) Really i think must be that kind possibility but we need here to do calculations to not make smithing so easy skill, just is logic why i can't buy from some general store iron platebodies and try to smelt it to bars :) just it logic.. :) To not make it so easy possible to make place where they can smelt items to bars so far from bank and unrearchable with some teleports

I suppose on F2P is specially are no hight lvl monsters, just because it F2P.

Edited, rewritted some things after discussion. Hello, This is idea about possibility to smelt equipment to corresponding type of bars, like in real life possible to get some metal equipment and smelt it to any other form.. It's logical then must be possible to smelt some platebodies, kiteshields & etc.. back to bars too.. It's logical - because in RuneScape many things possible to make in few diferent ways We don't talk about abuse or making so easy smithing skill or to change smithing bars prices, just when you training for example combat or doing some other things you get tons useless for you stuff, like after monster killing you get steel kiteshield, plates & etc... i a lot of times wondered why i can't smelt it again to smithing bars.. We here discussed with guys and decided: 1. To smelt some item, player must have corresponding smithing level to make this item! 2. To prevent some abuse - smelting rate will be like this: Smelt 2 bronze bar equipment = 1 bronze bar. Smelt 3 iron bar equipment = 1 iron bar. Smelt 4 steel bar equipment = 1 steel bar. Smelt 5 mithril bar equipment = 1 mithril bar. Smelt 6 adamantite bar equipment = 1 adamantite bar. Smelt 7 rune bar equipment = 1 rune bar. * What mean stuff from 8 bars, it can be 8 wc axes (8 bars) or 1 platebody (5bars) + 1 Kiteshield (3bars) = 8 Bars & etc... 3. Way to smelt equipment to smithing bars must be a bit similar like Compost Making, just you use items on some machine (possible you can access this machine after some quest) - to make less work for Jagex developers it can be Furnance blast update i think :).. (i think here like developer :) ) We still discussing this idea and i give permissions then anybody can use it and can suggest it on RuneScape forums, just I 31 years old guy and working a lot and are busy almost time and i think we need some noble guy to fight on RS forum for this suggestion & i wish good luck because that can be very nice RuneScape Update! ;) :D

Yes, You can't use prayer skill in Barbarian Assault anyway, i know it for sure.

With 2M on F2P you can get your FM up to 99lvl with lumbridge general store willows :) But i think is better to use it on cooking or runecraft training.. Better i think runecraft, get it to 77lvl and use 16world air runing then you will do some profit and exp then..

For me this amulet is another space of bank :) i keep not having it :)

I using Ring of dueling to get to CW then getting my darmen staff and running to nearest circle in north west of yanille on the way sometimes killing some ogre :) and then using CIP fairy ring :) Actually i don't think then is best method, interesting for me which fairy ring is nearest bank, maybye it Canifis one ? but teleporting to canifis is a bit complicated i can use house teleport then in house i can use canifis portal - it's my faster method to get to this place, but it take 3 bank places for house teleport runes...

yes sometimes is anoying when i see not updated my sig and know then already have 150k exp more :)

I think Canon is very expensive way.. Chichompha's are good only if you catch it - not buy, but really much more cheap is catch chichompas sell they and buy arrows or bolts for bone xbow, i think i suggest you to use Bone XBow... I have similar problem on my main, have some arrows in bank, some bolts and cbow's, some chichompas, canon, Crystal Bow... and dunno what method to chose just i allways seeking how to drop some stuff from bank and i think Bone XBow are good way to train ranged, then maybye i will sell later my chichompas and my canon.. BTW: Canon is good not for ranged but for quick slayer lvlup...

I think rate is something like 20% but i am not sure I Use herb patch in troll stronhold in this patch not die herbs ;)

dont you mean you can only trade it when its comletely fixed or at 0. yes

They my favorite ones, i not use prayer to kill they :) I love aberrant sceptres, because they are undeads and i can use salve amulet (e) with they which give 20% str and attack bonus against undeads, because i must use nosepeg i can't use black mask, but i get better str and attack bonus then with black mask with they :) Equipment: Helm - Nosepeg Ammy - Salve Amulet (e); Body - Black dragonhide body - You can use Karils body if you have; Legs - Black dragonhide chaps - You can use Karils legs/skirt (dunno good) if you have; Boots - Some mystic boots for magic def; Gloves - Barrows gloves from Recipe Of Disaster (they i think not less magic def and hight melee bonus; 1h Weapon Whip or DScimmy - depends what combat skill i train; Shield - Mind Elemental shield; Damage boosting: 1. Dragon Battleaxe 2. Restore pot 3. Super attack pot 4. Switch to Scimmy or whip.. Food: Almost lobsters or Monkfishes depends what you have in bank, bank is near this tower and not big problem to get to bank for next food load i almost fill all my inventory with highter then marentill hebrs get some ranarrs, kwarms, tarronims and lava battlestaffs :)

I used after quest dont remember tip.it or runehq.com guide (i using both websites) and ulocked all routes and forgetted and using when i need it:)

Fly fishing is faster fishing way from Legendary RSC times and i think jagex keep this tradition, i just can suggest monkfishes, some people train on they, they already usefull food not only exp and just a bit slower... Whatever i not tried yet barbarian fishing I are to busy with agility training and when i play train it and think about a lot of things what i will do after i done agility... for example i decided not train specially fishing and cooking i have that skills enought hight and just when i will train my combat i will need food and then i will catch monkfishes and cook it and automatically for sure get cooking 99 and more exp then 13m and some fishing levels, maybye not 99 but then will be easy to upgrade with fly fishing to 99, just with 94 cooking and cooking gloves i not burn any shark and for me is enought...

That would only work if you had a lower combat level. It would be a shame to get owned by a bot... Hehe, really got good humour readed it :) i wonder or any PK'er not died from Green Drags bot :D

I still burn monkfsih with level 93 cooking and cookng gauntlets. Strange, because i with cooking gaunlets with 94 cooking already not burn any monkfish or shark ;) Cooking place i using is catcherby nearest bank range because when i cooking i try to trade some stuff on RS forums too and catcherby is more rearchable for people then rogues den :) just some ppl buying or selling something staying at camelot bank or they use for mage training camelot tele..

YES P2P Fly Fishing at Shilo village, F2P Fly Fishing at barbarian village Another usefull more and just a bit less exp/h method is monkfishes, they already enought useful food for hight combat players for regular combat training not for some hard mode like DK,KQ & etc..

For example for Woodcutting training best is lumberjack set That mean it's depends what you train, if you cook you use cooking gloves at least :) I remember fun when i bought Pirate hook from agility arena for agility tickets and when I wear it i said then i lost 1 my hand in battle and then is why i have just hook not hand :) and some players started to believe :D that been funny :)

Best ever items at skilling period is: Spottier Cape <- Reduce weight by 5kg! (if you skiller just get hunter to 66 i think in 1 week and get this cape); Boots of lightness <- Reduce weight by 4,5kg! (and is mistake then you need finish Temple of ikov quest, you just need light source to get that boots) Gloves from barbarian assault - i don't have they, but they decrease weight like i know too.. If you have protective prayer for random events then good is to have some prayer book.. and very rare but sometime is usefull to have DDS if you have free hands:] All other items except leveling stuff (like for wc we need axe, for fishing some fishing equipment, for mining pickaxe & etc...) are junk and just will waste your energy, then better to get ava accumulator then some skill cape... Exceptions are only if you don't need so much energy like, fishing at catcherby/fletching at bank/alching & etc.., then you never use more then 50% - you can wear if you want full rune/granite/dragon/barrows stuff or other armor then :) anyway you newer use so much energy at doing things like this... But if you fishing at shilo/mining at mining guild or at varrock in regular way (walking) or do similar things then better use equipment what i suggested.. I wondered too what cape i will wear when i will need to buy oil from morton general store and take it to bank when i get 99 agility and i decided then in this situation better is to use Spottier Cape then Agility skill cape... Added after edit: If you wear an armor skilling then better get something with prayer bonus, like White knight armor or better - specially for random events. IMHO for example i think is very noobish like people mine in mining guild with full rune and waste so much they energy walking with that equipment... P.S. When you learn how to count then you learn to play some game (exp/h), weight & etc things...

Guys but how he access alone DK's ? i think to open doors need more then 1 guy ? I not long time ago finished lunar diplomacy and dream mentor but i still not tested Waterbirt teleport spell it get to DK's or not ? just question, or possible access alone that monsters with some teleport ?

Is interesting question, because nobody understanded what you want to train ? what skill ? combat or some other?

I love they for they drop and then they are enought cheap killable not like iron/metal drags - then i need pray pots. I swaping monsters like metal dragons sometimes if at the moment in bank have no pray pots, because i sometimes selling it better then using, like last time I sold 300 pray pots(4) and maked some profit. My favorite slayer monster for slayer/combat training is Aberal Sceptres because they undeads and they drop a lot of herbs and lava battlestaffs, but is not about loot is enought good exp :) i kill they enought easy and from canifis tower to canifis bank is enought near.. What i really hate to kill is desert lizards (after slayer task switching) :) they are far in desert and they are total waste of time and low exp :) Good ones from swithing is Monkeys, then i can kill ape toll temple guards at altar