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1st thing why is F2P is because in P2P people don't sell logs in general store, they fletch all logs and then sell and because fletching is P2P only skill you need F2P where people sell to general store willows. 2nd thing when in general store willows are more then 100 i think they are already at 12gp each price, but really you can find worlds where is people sold more then 5k or more then 15k of willows in general store. 3dn thing then you just get money and tinderbox and go to lumbridge general store, check or in that store are a lot of willow logs if not just find world where are, how you must do all things look in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib7wjlXfzSE Place are near general store because after burning you back to general store for more willows :) I suggest to disable all chats and especially trade because is F2P lumbridge and a lot of noobs start to follow you and disturb your lvlup :) when i trained in this way i got they company too :)

With F2P Lumbridge willows from general store 12 each it will cost you a bit just more then 1,5m

Try ZMI update altar if for exp

Cheap method is F2P willows at lumbridge bought in general store for 12gp each.. When i trained i trained on all logs what i been able to cut, burned yews, mahonays, teaks, maples too, just later found this tactics with willows, just try to count: Yew is worth 300gp You buy Willows in F2P general store for 12gp ea counting... 300/12 = 25 willow logs just 1 yew, 1 willow log is 90fm exp then: 25*90 = 2250 fm exp total for 1 yew log 1 yew log is just 202.5 fm exp, it's up to you what to do

Really is interesting build question or need to train attack here just need to get 50str in some time..

you high alched full sara??!!!!???? are you crazy? Lol, i remember at shades of morton one guy alched Guthans warspear but acidentally i think he alched some stuff and wanted to change to warspear just:)

I think is much more interesting update can be to remove 99skill level limit up to possible max at 200k exp :)

With almost no life i cooked at day about 10k of fish.. then if in this way you need for cooking 9 days ;)

Emm... really i newer tried just writted about rumors, then better listen him :)

Maybye is your computer permissions problem or firewall/router, or maybye you require some java update, but i suggest you to get regular mIRC from http://www.mirc.com and use it.

I think you can get some friend support to, let he get full inventory of sharks to help you. BTW: I done DT in about 5 hours and not been killed :)

You can, just you need loose cooking gaunlets i think you must destroy it and buy from another brother chaos gaunlets.

I don't see any problem, people allways say about double NAT'ing but it require if i good remember 91 runecraft what will take a while to get and already to get it you need money, guy ask about how to begin, how to make him first million. All people in Runescape some time must spent on money making, you need only time investment, if you have no money get one from that ways: A. Type ways with exp from 0 GP (collecting and selling resources earning some exp in this way): 1. Get WC axe and cut trees to get 1 or more million GP (chose some: Willows, Mapples, Yews or Mages) Mages take a time to cut and you can cut 3-4 or more yews sometimes in time how much you spent on Magic logs, then if you low on WC get better Willows or Mapples, i suppose you must be 20+ wc levels highter then log what you want to cut. 2. Get some fishing equipment and fish some fishes (lobsters, monkfishes or Sharks) then sell they raw - raw food go with highter price and faster! Really profitable are and fly fishing too and it is good/fast ever fish exp too, but already this require some investment (buy feathers for 5-10gp each and catch salmons and trouts and sell it for trouts(40-50gp ea) salmons (60-70gp ea) - remember you invested on feather 5-10gp and get from it 40-70gp ;) - that type of food buying F2P players who train pures i sold a lot to they food they buy something like 1-2k of fish, sometimes more... 3. P2P only - Hunting chichompas (sorry if i typed wrong this name but all understanded about what i talk) This is very profitable (you need to get hunter level 1st to catch chicompas then catching they get to red chicompas and catch then they) red ones go with price like 500 ea - maybye more or less i not sure or at the moment they worth this price but anyway is good profit and not require investments and hunter allways is good to have hight up to 86 then you can catch implings what is very good for profit and have some fun :) i with me hunter one evening tried to catch some implings (they require hunter skill) i can catch up to Maggie impling just, i got then 2 dragon daggers, mystic bots, some noted raw lobbies, rune sq shield and misc stuff in something like 1-2hours almost i just had some fun with no any intensive play :) 4. P2P Only collecting flax and making bowstrings then sell it (some craft exp and money); B. Ways to do money not earning exp: 1. Red Spider eggs - F2P - Varrock sewers (my favorite place), After tower of life quest you can get spider eggs summoning and killing creatures, i think spider egg worth something like 700gp ea.. 2. Swamp tar at lumbridge swamp (don't remember now price but when checked RS forums i decided collect it by myself because i found then they are to expensive for me :) ); 3. Feathers - ppl suggest then you must just kill chickens to get it, yes in F2P is only 1 way, but in P2P you can do Chompy hunting minigame, chompies drop more feathers and you get some raw meat and get some fletch exp because you must make broad arrows & etc... after feather collection i suggest you to not sell this resource better use by yourself making arrows or by fly fishing and only then sell, you do then more money in this way and get more exp ;) I know more things just today i feel not so good after yesterday beer drinking at bar with one girl :) then sorry and i think anybody can add some comments to it :) Edit: I want to add from myself how i maked my first million (it happen about 3 years ago) i had at moment enought hight mage to do item superheat spell and smithing to make mithril arrowheads and fletching at level to make mithril arrows, then i mined in F2P mining guild few weeks mithril and coal superheating mithril bars on place (that mean then i from mining guild returned not with ore but with mith bars all time) i got about 1500mithril bars in this way; Then i paid for membership and cutted a lot of trees to get arrow shafts and bought from one friend enought feathers to make all in arrows, then i maked more then 20k of mithril arrows and sold somewhere in F2P :)

Really best if they do some XML output of stats it take less of bandwitch then HTML with complete design and sig systems or irc stats bots systems (like: rscript.org ) then can much more easy scrapt/parse & use this data then then i maybye write some own irc bot for it too :)

Dunno about this but i don't beleawe in it too, they just getting first 1 million people counting from top rank in some skill or overall. But counting to some skill level i don't think then is technologically easy possible in database server performance reasons because some skills 999999 rank is already highter then 50lvl that mean then they then get result in something like more then 5 million people what will lag and for a lot of requests can crash servers.

I meeted not one person in Travery dungeon killing Hellounds with crystal bows, they drop only clues, i think they do clues then and recover costs in this way, maybye is good for you too..

I just suggested diferent ways to do things :) exist some very favorite money making or skilling tactics and less known. I love sometimes to create own ones or seek something not so standard and just let you know how other people do it, not all training fletch or wc, you can get extra hight smithing in furnance blast or in a lot of diferent ways (arrows, knifes, gold with gaunlets & etc..) You can train mage not only by alching but for example in pest control or superheating bars or in other ways, for exaple when i have 87lvl mage i will train mage in ehchant arena handling lava staff and tons of cosmics and i get cheap and good exp - is onyx enchant spell i think (spell use 10 earth and 10 fire runes + 1 cosmic - lava staff make it very cheap then), many people for it use ancient magics wasting a lot of money, others train it alching things, other do camelot teleport, others maybye in pest control or in other ways... And etc.. really you need to alch something worth more then 300gp to recover runes costs it can be some body armor (in same way training smighing) or some long bow (better magic long). I use alching just when have some item in bank and are to lazy to sell it, like i got from shades of morton 90 power ammies i alched they all (one ammy street price about 5k if i put to forums then i selling i get spammed and change world to some F2P and come to him place because i somewhere on member territory is not worth if i sell power ammy). Sometimes alched rune chains when got borred to sell it, or alched mystic set parts which i got from Slayer training, just i screamed 2 times selling mystic bottom, nobody wanted it and i alched it, have no time for so small things just:) Just if item worth less 100k i rare do big trade compaign for it because is time waste i just alch it for 50k and do other things, for me time is much more important.

Heh sure, bob axe shop is just woodcutting axe shop not pickaxe shop and fixes only wc axes, pickaxes fixing only dwarf Numrof in dwarven mines. Really strange then people think then bob do it :) i beleawe when this say somebody who play 1 week but not more.. ;)

I newer alched Yew longs, all my fletch are from arrowmaking, all logs what i wc'ed i burned training fm up to pyre magic logs; Then i wced magic logs, pyred they and burned magic pyred logs with fiyr remains gettin 400Fm exp + 100pray exp per each and money and keys from morton dungeon chests; Then from chests sometimes for 1 key i got Rune chain or rune scimitars or addy or mith items or Fine cloths (that mean sometimes 1 magic log been worth Rune Scimitar or Rune Chain or a lot of mith or addy stuff) and fine cloths (10k each worth) and tons of 3 Lvl clues... All trash i alched like mith plates, collected just rune scimmies, chains, full addy sets and fine cloths and clues and death and blood runes (got about 1500 bloods).. I think is best method how to use Magic logs, Yews are not bad too (you can get addy stuff and 2 lvl clues and sometimes better stuff if you get silver key); What then i alched ? i alched in furnance blast mith plates training smithing :)

I think recovery questions sometimes is vulerability, if bad guy decide to guess and get success because somebody filled it not so carefull, like favorite pet will be cat or favorite movie actor will be some all known one & etc...

I remember times when i started to do quests when got some unrearchable clues locations :)

I think it can be for example pest control and furnance blast give some str too..

Yes i suspect too then he just wrong recognized cape, but that friend play long time and almost combat skills have at 99lvl then is very poor possibility then he wrong. Combat maybye been 54 or 45 really i don't remember exact combat level, friend talked about this guy about half year ago, just i remembered about this today & I counted combat with TIP.IT Combat calculator and: All cmb stats 1lvl except: STR 99, HP 50 = 45CMB All cmb stats 1lvl except: STR 99, HP 60 = 47CMB All cmb stats 1lvl except: STR 99, HP 70 = 50CMB But really i not imagine that kind training with attack 1 lvl, if he had 10 Attack for black weapons, TIP.IT CMB Calc say then he had then: All cmb stats 1lvl except: STR 99, ATK 10, HP 50 = 48CMB All cmb stats 1lvl except: STR 99, ATK 10, HP 60 = 50CMB All cmb stats 1lvl except: STR 99, ATK 10, HP 70 = 53CMB Anyway 10 HP levels get just 2-3 levels combat up. I think if really exist that kind player then him character maybye usefull for F2P PK, i don't see other point for it..

I my fletch got making arrows not bows, but i not care so much about fletch, used firemaking to earn money at shades of morton.

I have no screenshots but one friend talked about man with very low combat like 45-50lvl & with Str cape, maybye he just not recognized cape, just interesting what you think is pointless and if not then why they train characters like this?... Is like he must be trained on P2P i think and if he had attack 1 lvl then he just at 50 str been able to use granite maul and then get in this way 99 str... Just interesting what people think about that?