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Got 97 fm last night. Currently 774k from 98. Considering changing it up for a while and burning the logs I have in my bank.

Read the first post. Only 1 related to any form of sexual battery, and that was an unspecified downgrade post plea bargain. The other 2 charges (distribution of CP and failure to register) he did not claim to be about the wrong place at the wrong time. There is no suggestion that there is a "laundry list of sexual harrasment charges" unless you have more information that we don't, and if so, please feel free to post it up. Why not? The most recent charge, related to failure to register, which was the result of retroactive law change. That isn't a matter of still needing to clean up his act, that's something that would be easy to get trapped by. This stunt? WHAT?

You use the same account name as your standard RS account. So if youre RS acct name waas Yay0siris, you'd a) have to be p2p to sign into it, and b) sign in using the same details as your current account. You will however, be starting afresh in RSC.

You have entirely missed the point I was making in the first place. But my original reply to your point was that gambling in RS does show the consequeces of the gambling while the alcohol part doesn't. Geek, don't try too hard with ll0rt, he just tries to be a highly disagreeable person. And you still haven't picked up on the point I was making (lets ignore the ad hominem remarks for now, shall we). The point was, that engaging in gambling while young on a game where it is seen as acceptable (and in some circles encouraged) could lead to it being mimicked in real life. While you see consequence, you don't see the full facts about it. Gambling in a casino, on a poker(slot)machine has vastly different odds than the 60x2 crap being touted on RS, and there is a very real potential for kids to walk in not knowing the difference. Let alone the fact that RS money is a) quite easy to make back (unlike money in reality) and b) the consequences are much more dire. You may think losing your hard earned 100k is a major consequence, but given how easy it is to make back, it is very small. The money you're losing in real life, is much, much harder to make back, and has real world consequences, and not only for yourself. Now, if you had bothered to read Geek's post, which clearly you did not, you'd have seen he was not responding to a post made by me, but my Newb. So I suggest you get your facts correct before you start shooting off such remarks.

You have entirely missed the point I was making in the first place.

Shifting the burden. Argumentative fallacy. You have made a claim. It is on you to support it with evidence. Straw-man. Argumentative fallacy. Nowhere did I say "These people definitely can be rehabilitated". I challenged your assertion that they never can be.

Research. You will find that most people never change. There's countless articles out there. You have made the assertions. The onus is on you to provide evidence. As an aside, you have made an absolute statement. People don't change. You will never find an article that supports that. Maybe 'more often than not they don't', but nowhere, will you find one that says 'never' whilst retaining a shred of credibility.

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That, I must agree with.

No no, the Internet isn't an excuse for crap debating, it's just part and parcel of it. You know nothing about this person... I mean literally nothing. We don't even know it was related to child porn, we suspect it might be. That's the level of competence you're all showing here--you saw "sex offender" and went "hang him the filthy perv". It's cringeworthy that this has been labelled under 'discussion', it's just two sides shouting about something they can't possibly know to be true. Actually, it was related to child porn. The guy wrote a long winded post on RV which was quoted at the start of the thread, in which he acknowledges this.

No, I'm going to sell them

[/hide] No it's not void, at all. Jumping to conclusions, sure, but what's to say there wasn't more than just what he was charged with? We will never truly know the full story. And a fansite, created by him, which attracts teens and contains a thread for them to post pictures of themselves? Not saying such thread was there, but we have one. People don't change, no matter what's done to them. You can't change how they are wired and how they think, what interests them and what doesn't. Also a previous offense: "in that case, i was basically in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong person." You have jumped to a conclusion based on nothing other than he was charged with distribution, and thus assume he also, be inclined towards children. What we know is what the conviction stated. He was charged with DISTRIBUTION. Not production. Not sex with a minor. Not pedophilia. So, based on his charge, you have taken the leap from, distributor to MUST BE INTERESTED IN YOUNG KIDS :ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes: and somehow consider that to be a valid judgement and leap? Really?

Instead leading to RV being inundated with hateful posts and even worse trolls, a number of forums discussing how terrible a person this guy is for something he did a number of years ago, a handful of people making what could easily be regarded as slanderous statements and a fun new lynch mob. No, its not a failing of English. It's legal terminology. He's not a pedophile either, that is someone who (either did, or attempted to) had sex with someone under age (the ages vary from state to state, and country to country, some US states its under 12). Try again. What YOU see to be detrimental or otherwise is not what others see. Things in this game have the potential to lead to cause true, outside harm. To simply toss away gambling in game and drinking in game as things that have absolutely no problem at all is a fanciful isn't it? Kids playing these games have a very real chance of growing up not knowing the consequences of these actions. (Swearing was more in regards to it being inappropriate, so we'll leave that aside). There are no real consequences to me getting sloshed, so I'll go out on Friday night and do it! I'll go an gamble because while I won big on RS.

Protecting kids? Really? Yet we have rampant gambling going in game largely unchecked, several instances where binge drinking is encouraged, a censor that now is easily averted. Are we really protecting kids? REALLY? As an aside, you might want to be careful about what you say. He wasn't charged with producing child pornography. So calling him a child pornographer is beginning to head towards slander.

I think you and I are in the same lonely boat here. Jagex doesn't give a [bleep] about anything except making that money. They in no way care about making the game better or the people who play it. It's a shame this game was made my the UK. Actually, reading the thread, you might find more than the 2 of you upset with their handling and the fact that all tehy care about is the image of the business. And it's tiring to say, but Jagex is a BUSINESS. #1 goal of business - make money. For without money, and without backers (because the people financially supporting Lagex will pull out without returns on their investment), there is NO GAME. No game. Period. That is a rediculous straw-man argument. Go back to the drawing board s0n. And if you read long-winded post (quoted in the first post of the thread I believe) you'll know that laws leading up to his arrest were actually different to what they are now. That's right. Violence is the answer. You know what labelling and public outings do? It causes violence. These people are chased out of town. Once you have served your time, you have the RIGHT to go back into society and keep on living. The more rediculous stunts that are pulled (big p's, public outings, special number plates as one state in the US had suggested), the harder it is for these men (and women) to be members of society. But lets not stop here. Lets label murderers with an M, lets label thieves with a T, hell, let's label people caught speeding with an S on their car. Where do we stop?

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So basically, we have no idea whether or not he was in the wrong starting a fansite.

They aren't overreacting. Any old right-wing nut could have made the link that Lagex gives gold fansite status to a website run by a sex-offender. Now, whilst being an absolutely rediculous straw-man argument that follows (well, if they give gold status to a website run by predators, they must be ok with predators) you have people out in segments of the media and society who will a) say it and b) believe it. They have to cover their arse as a business, because to have a game that is marketed to children (even though we say it's meant to be geared towards an adult audience), they can't have such things said - false or not. It will tarnish their reputation and this particular mud sticks. Could you explain to me in the legislation at hand, where it says he cannot run a fan site for a game which may have or may not have kids involved? I'm not in the US so I don't know the law there like I do here.

Surely you can understand being on the defensive though, I mean, he has had his work thrown to hell because of his past actions, although they had no bearing on the website itself. Look at all the stuff people are saying about him without knowing the full facts of the case, just seeing that he is a RSO and thus public enemy number 1. How could anyone approach such a situation without a defensiveness?

At what point do we stop chastising people convicted of sex offenses, and allow them to integrate back into the community, albeit with controls. I mean, if we are going to go out and say "well he's set up a website based around a game that children play, thus is attracting teens..." is there anything we can't apply a round-a-bout logic to, in order to pull the same argument? Lagex have every right to protect their interests, but to publicly out him - again - after doing his time, well, I don't see that to be a moral action at all. All they had to do was say "we have removed Gold status from RV for a breach of terms" or some legally vague pile of rubbish like that. Instead they have unleashed a lynch-mob. Hmmm.

+950k fm xp +290k dg xp Productive day. 100k from 95 fm -> 952k from 97 atm. :mrgreen:

Ashes. The time you save is time spent boss hunting and making back the excess cash you spent.

BXPW? What? Who'd have thought. 94->95 farm, 93->95/6 herb banked (spose I should get a pile of eye of newts), nearly 94 mage. Would've been more like 98 had I not been hacked :9 After that I might train FM, or some stupid skill I hate on (thieving/hunter probably). Will get 99 herb in March

4th attempt on Darkmeyer boss. 500LP overload heal saved my ass bigtime. Not my *favourite* quest, the boss was annoying, but it's done. Questcape back <3 1 xp tome from quest. Other 2 went on summoning.