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Lately i've been having good haircuts when i found this barber shop i'm going to. But this last recent haircut was just horrible. Of course i've had some bad haircuts when i was smaller and my mom used to take me to the places where people were training :cry: , but we won't go that far. Everybody always loves my fades, i get it faded from a 1 on the side to about a 6-7 on top. I always have this 1 guy cut my hair, he's the best. This time i had to hurry up and he was busy, so i got somebody else. The fade is still good, but now it's too short. I have a messy/spicky hairstyle, and now i can't do anything with it. I hate it. Also, the guy cut me in at least 10 places with the razor. It looked like somebody cut my hair with a machete or something, i had cuts all over my forehead, back of the head, and around my sideburns. Well in 2 weeks it'll be good again to style, but now i'm mad :cry: From now on, i'm just waiting for my guy to cut it.

"But until then i have no reason to"? no reason? what about Him making you? What about Him forgiving all your sins? What about that Jesus died on the cross for you? I believe there are plenty of reasons to worship Him. My mother made me, not him, and I definitely don't worship here. Remember, I never asked to be made. I'd much rather be unmade, and would ahve done so myself a long time ago, had I not the waning hope that there may possibly be a God (thinking of the christian god) and knowing if I was wrong, I woudl go to hell. Forgiving my sins? I don't need him to forgive my sins. Even if I think it was necessary for any of my "sins" to be forgiven, I am certain I don't need HIM to be the one to forgive them. If I think I need to be forgiven, I will ask it of the person whom my sin was directed toward. Jesus did not die on the cross for me. If that is the case, he died for the people who lived then. We are god's forgotten or unwanted children. If he died for us, he died in vain. Jesus died at the hands of peple he couldn't fight. He (a mere man) used the whole "dying for you" thing to make them all feel guilty later on. That's my belief anyway, and if any evidence to the contrary aside from what some dilusional prisoner wrote down is presented to me, I'll happily reverse any or all of my beliefs, or at least be open to further study and research of my own. I was actually talking about when you used to be a Christian, than those reasons should be good enough to worship him. But if you're talking also when you were a Christian, you had that mind set, then it seemed like you were asking a god that you didn't believe in.

I believe you are talking about the Christian God. There's a verse, can't exactly remember the place or the exact wording, but it goes something along the line of "Blessed are those who believe without seeing". Sometimes He won't answer us, because what we ask is not in His will. "But until then i have no reason to"? no reason? what about Him making you? What about Him forgiving all your sins? What about that Jesus died on the cross for you? I believe there are plenty of reasons to worship Him.

lol, i've only had a couple stupid incidents. When i was around 6 i was playing tug of war with my brother with a sock. Well being my older brother, he won, pulling me towards him........and my head into the corner of a night stand. Cracked my head open. Then about when i was 16-17, we went to sports authority. Me and my cousin found 2 boxing gloves, so we each got 1. We started fighting, and i was walking backwards. I tripped and i put my left hand down to catch myself :cry: well that didnt work to well. Fractured my wrist, wore a cast for 6 weeks.

LOLOL, that's just priceless. Gotta give you guys props for doing that. You should ask people in the street where varrok/fally/the wildy is. Lol, i love the last episode "Get a girlfield" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nice house, your own golfcart, i have so much fun with the golfcart at work. Good luck with 5

I don't exactly see what you're trying to say with this sentence. We have proof that the earth is 5 billions years old? No, scientists keep moving the years because they find new fossils. There is no carbon dating that goes that far back. That's just an approximation of scientists. Who said he waited 5 billion to make humans? why would he create dinosaurs? is that a serious question? That's like asking why did he create dogs, i dont see what you mean by that question.

He's not getting on my nerves, i'm just curious what evidance he has, but I guess you do have a point. That means nothing to the validity of the Bible.

We are not talking about me we are talking about the author of the bible. As I said before READ the bible must I really say it so many times. p.s No not EVERY other word of mine is mispelled. Know what? Why don't you give us a verse that has bad grammar... You probably havent realised this yet but I DONT BELIVE IN GOD!!!! So what leads you to belive I have a bible within reach? Give me a bible and ill happily show you bad grammer. P.s its pretty pathetic that you guys are incapable of reading a book page by yoursels. So if you don't have a bible within reach, how would you kno about the grammar inside of it? You've "personally" never "seen" such poor grammar? With what? since you don't have a bible. Ive read the bible why are you so dim? Sorry to say but your quite possibly the dumbest person ive ever run accross on these boards and that says alot. Of course I CANT have read something I dont own. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: EDIT: I appologise for the insult but what you posted was foolish please think before making assumptions. How can you make a statement without being able to back it up? You said there's bad grammar, and when we ask you to prove it, u say that i should read it for myself and that you don't have a bible within reach. How should i know you read it, for all i kno you couldve read it when you were 10. I still wanna see a verse where there's bad grammar. Obviously we can't seem to find it, so how bout you find it for us? oh and here's a bible for you, in every version. http://www.bible.com

We are not talking about me we are talking about the author of the bible. As I said before READ the bible must I really say it so many times. p.s No not EVERY other word of mine is mispelled. Know what? Why don't you give us a verse that has bad grammar... You probably havent realised this yet but I DONT BELIVE IN GOD!!!! So what leads you to belive I have a bible within reach? Give me a bible and ill happily show you bad grammer. P.s its pretty pathetic that you guys are incapable of reading a book page by yoursels. So if you don't have a bible within reach, how would you kno about the grammar inside of it? You've "personally" never "seen" such poor grammar? With what? since you don't have a bible.

In my opinion it would be a lot nicer if it were perfect here and no heaven. Much more logical. But apparently god wants us to blindly believe to him without proof to get to heaven. gehjl and jackalope14 I think I understand what youre getting at about that satans evilness was not gods invention (end of page 7) . But It still seems illogicall to me that in heaven, where everything should be perfect, living with god and the angels. How can one turn evil? And jackalope said there wans't a thing called sin back then, did Lucifer made the sin then? In such a perfect place, I don't seem he could have gotten influcence about sinning from anywhere because he was the first one to sin. Where did he learn it then? There were no satan then to template him because he himself is the satan. And by the way, it's god that created his brains. About the foreseeing thing, lets assumpt that god made a mistake (which should be impossible?) when creating lucifer, but he saw that he would turn evil some day. Now, why didin't he talk to him about it? He is the god, I would think hes word weights pretty much and he could do something about him turning evil. Unless he wanted him to turned evil ofcourse, unless it was his plan. Well about the heaven thing, if it were perfect here, what would happen when you died? that's it? I'd rather spend eternity in heaven, than 80 years of heaven. But then again, that's just me. I know what you're talkin about with the satan thing. This is just something that our minds cannot comprehend what His plan was. Satan turning evil all lead to the plan of Adam and Eve sinning. I can't really explain it or understand myself. I'll ask my dad, he really studied the Bible (Since he's a pastor) so i'll get back to you on that. Thats spelling their IS a diffrence, also im not writing a novel so editing isnt a priority. Dont belive me about the bad grammer I suggest you read the Bible. Are the words "thy" "ye" "cometh" confusing you? don't worry, they're real words. OMg i think it is quite PATHETIC that I would have to explain what gammer acually IS. ITS IS NOT SPELLING Pealse ask your teacher what the diffrence is im sure theyll get it thru to you. From the looks of it, it seems like spelling should be more of an issue to you than grammar. Almost every other word is mispelled....Plus, i'd like to see an examle of where there is bad grammar in the Bible. Edit: Asked dad about the lucifer thing. Lucifer when in heaven was 1 of the 3 most powerful archangels. He was in charge over all the earth. When he saw that he had the whole earth at his hand, he wanted to be bigger than God. It was his pride that made him fall. God did create him, but how it started in his head is not mentioned in the Bible. It just says that he wanted to be bigger than God. It doesn't say whether God put that there, or if angels today can still do it, it's just something we don't know.

Thats spelling their IS a diffrence, also im not writing a novel so editing isnt a priority. Dont belive me about the bad grammer I suggest you read the Bible. Are the words "thy" "ye" "cometh" confusing you? don't worry, they're real words.

I'll keep him in my prayers. Mark 11. 24 "Therefore I say unto you. What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them" Somebody told me when we were praying for somebody who was in the hospital from a car accident. Don't just ask Him, but Praise Him for what He will do.

Someone's that accepted Jesus Yup, a person who accepts Jesus as their personal God and Savior and repents of their sins. Very true blipo, if it were perfect here, there would be no use for heaven. Hence why a lot of people are looking for something more than this (life on earth).

Thanks :D , just curious which 1? very true, i believe a survey was conducted of the United States. Somewhere around 70-80% considered themselfs Christians. Of those 80% only around 20-30% considered themselfs born-again christians.

It was Satan (a fallen angel) that made us sin. Nope, not a valid answer. God made satan. Yes he made him good at the beginning but satan coudn't create evilness, he is just an angel,so god made it so that satan would fall and become evil. Satan already turned evil by sinning towards God. God did not make him evil. By sinning against God, Satan had already fallen Hmm, do I have to repeat myself? Satan didin't create himself. God made him evil by creating him the way he is, the way that he could become evil at some point and sin against god. Also, i've heard there is a partin bibble that says that god foresees everything that happens in this world, so he must foreseen that if he created satan he would turn evil, right? So yep, I say its 100% gods fault satan become evil. The question is only, why would god do something like that? God did not make satan evil. Just because God knew that he was going to sin, doens't mean he planned it. It's like he's watching a movie he already watched. He knows what's going to happen. and insane, LOL, a chemistry book.

Friend wanted to add some things, Tip.it isn't letting him on, so i'll post it. As people, we are given the ability to choose whether or not we can or cannot believe something; it is what drives us to believe in everything from a supreme being, to truth and fiction, and even right and wrong. In reality, it is a choice left to us as humans, and if it is said that a person will go to heaven because he accepts God as truth, then I see no conflict with the so called "sins" on their hands. The hardest choice is to believe in something which cannot be seen, heard, proven, and known in what we call fact, and thus, to give our lives and accept that is sending a message beyond any other actions. It is left to us to decide what we do with the gift of life, and yes, there are moments of pain, anguish, chaos, desperation and suffering, we have all had our share, but it is what we do with our life that matters. If we face a tough time, we can choose to complain and cower from it or fight it, there is no other choice and those who accept God are recieving more help in believing that there is something there to guide them. The punishment for those who do not accept God is that they will suffer on their own or would have to seek the support of fellow man. What if there was no one there? What if there was no other people to care or be there to help? This is the choice we make, to believe and to guide ourselves. Our suffering is our greatest test and greastest show of our determination and will. Thus, to place it into the topic. There is a choice on what we accept, believe, and deny. If we want to accept something and believe it, we are given more choices and more options toward inner guidance. That is our reward. It does not matter if you killed someone, it does not matter if u killed more than one person, if you struggle with it and seek forgiveness, wisdom from God, then there is a point to being accepted into heaven. However, killers without remorse, without the show of sorrow, and without sympathy do not seek that true forgiveness, and that is their choice. (Umbral X)

Sorry, but not necessarily. If someone believes that marriage is between a man and a woman, it doesn't matter how much he accepts and loves other people, he would still believe * marriage is wrong. Loving sinners (which I believe all people are) and condoning their sins are two different things entirely. Nicely put Astralinre, so if i'm against lying, do i hate liers? If i'm against killing, do i hate murderers? O.T. If i'm against prayin in wildy, do i hate the people who do it? (which is 90% of the graveyard forum). Just because I am against something doens't mean i hate them. I do not see what they are doing as right, but that's 2 different things. Oh, and btw, how come you didn't tell mk not to double post? a grudge maybe ? :)

You need to take another glance at the picture merc posted. Yes its probably better that he never existed. And (if the cristian god existed) nobody even knows if he went to heaven or just hell. Because he oblivously was a sinner if he didin't believe in god. Imagine: That boy at final judgement, standing there ahead god. God then tells him, you didin't believe me to hell I shall send you. The boy replies: Who the heck are you, youre not the god I believed in, I believed in [insert some african original god here], nobody even told me about you. Funny situation, I wonder what happens next. One of the reason cristian religion makes no sense at all to me. There's 2 ways that God judges you. If you've heard the Word and denied it, He will judge you based on the Bible. If you've never heard the Word, He will judge you based on your conscience (sp?). As for the baby with diseases and for the regular people with diseases/starvation, what not....We're not meant to live a perfect life. We are all born into sin. Because of Adam and Eve sinning, we live this life. It was a DECISION made by a person. God didn't force them to eat, therefore we are sinners. Bingo. I was talking to my mate about this the other day. He says he thinks you go into another body after you die, but with no memories of the previous life. But, wouldn't that just be the same as not existing? Since you wouldn't be aware of your existance. Woah. Yeah I've often had convos like that. When you put it that way, one needn't be afraid of death, as they'll have no conscience or emotion to feel it. But there's nothing wrong with wishing life to go on. Whether religion or folorn hope, we all have the right to believe in what we choose to believe,why we choose to pray, choose to act and choose to live. There's too many things I wanna do in my life to do in this one lifetime. There's too many people I have to meet and also too little or no time in some cases. But so long as I live now, I have more chance of living on through generations. God isn't a factor but yourself. Change someone's life for the better, have a family, find love and creating memories. Beautiful, irreplaceable memories beat religion anyday. Please don't see it this way because of bad information. When we go to heaven, yes we will have different bodies, but we will still have our memories. The story in the Bible with the beggar and the rich man, when they both died, the beggar still recognized the rich man. So we will still remember everything, and by that story, it also says we can see into hell from heaven, but they are galaxies apart.

So true insane. The original topic was "If there was a god" but somehow everybody talks about the Christian God. I'd have no problem with that, but most of you just bash without even knowing anything about Him. And it's interesting to read your topics. Even if He was true (talkin about the Christian God) it's interesting that you wouldn't be afraid of going to hell. I'm curious, is there any reason that you think you wouldn't be going to hell? Or spending eternity in torture doenst bother you? Just curious.

Very nicely stated Pyro. I agree whole heartedly with this post. This is the way that Christians are supposed to act, but sadly, we all don't. And I apologize if it somehwere seemed like in my post that i hated homosexuals or anything, yes I believe it's wrong, but as a Christian, I must love them like Christ would.

Um...yea, we already kind of finished that point of the arguement. But i'll repeat myself for the lazy people. Reproduction is the only arguement I have against homosexuality without bringing the Bible and Christianity into the arguement.

I'm with you so far. Now I'm not. From not being able to reproduce, you jump to "unnatural relation". Wrong. The logical conclusion was: "it is impossible for 2 men to reproduce". Never in the rest of the quote have you addressed any other element of a homosexual relationship besides kids. And there's more to it that that. Just like there's more to marriage than that. The reason it says that is "lead us to believe the reproduction is a natural process between a man and a woman, therefore". That says the natural way of reproduction. Then "it is unnatural for a man to be with another man, and a woman to be with another woman." The reason it says it's unnatural, it's because the statement before it stated the natural. Yes, i kno i mostly focus on the reproduction part mostly, because that's the only point of a homosexual relationship that somebody can argue without bringing the Bible into play. Homosexuality is an ethical arguement, and that's the only part I can argue without the Bible. Other than that, i have no proof to debate the other parts of the relationships. And as a friend taught me, never state something you can't back up.

But none of this explains the link between kids and a homosexual marriage. Even if it was a rule in the past to be married to have kids, the reverse has never been true: you were never forced to have kids after getting married. Kids are but one aspect of marriage. How can you post homosexuals shouldn't get married because they can't have kids ? That's just one aspect of marriage that applies to heterosexuals. What about all the other reasons ? Why deprive them from that just because they can't reproduce ? That's what gets me here... EDIT: Oh almost forgot. Spain just followed Canada. Actually that does explain the link between kids and a homosexual marriage. They can't have them naturally, but i know that's not the point of your post. The world would not exist without reproduction. Two men can not reproduce, and neither can two women, which would only lead us to believe the reproduction is a natural process between a man and a woman, therefore, it is unnatural for a man to be with another man, and a woman to be with another woman. Reproduction can be seen with any species of animals on the planet, except maybe some snails and a few types of frogs, which happen to be asexual, I believe.

Seems not. Don't act like you're right all the time.. Well, do, if you want, but don't tell people who don't beleive what you beleive that they "can't think".. By no way am i saying i'm right. I'm saying that people don't think anymore. He missed the connection between my post and the arguement. twice..... Well if people are missing the difference then maybe you have to explain more. It wont hurt you to explain. What was I not getting? (if I was the "he" you were refrering to) When i said that if you have a relationship with Christ you become more and more like him.....Meaning He wasn't a homosexual, so you wouldn't exactly becoming more and more like Him. Your reply "Your absolutely correct" that post seems like you're just saying "yes, that's a true statement" like i just said a fact out of the blue. And yes, i did explain it, but u quoted me 2 fast and missed the edit I know, you do become like Jesus, but that doesnt mean you just become perfect and stop sinning. Of course nobody is perfect, but when you surrender your life to Jesus, you have to change your lifestyle, with His help of course. Which is what my edit said. Yea, I think that homosexuals should try to change their life style if they want to have a personal relationship with Jesus. But as long as they know that their lifesyle isnt right, and they make an attempt to change it for Jesus I think they can be born-again. BTW I like your sig :wink: Now that I can agree with u there. If they try to change, they can have a personal relationship with Jesus. Thanks for your compliment. :D

Seems not. Don't act like you're right all the time.. Well, do, if you want, but don't tell people who don't beleive what you beleive that they "can't think".. By no way am i saying i'm right. I'm saying that people don't think anymore. He missed the connection between my post and the arguement. twice..... Well if people are missing the difference then maybe you have to explain more. It wont hurt you to explain. What was I not getting? (if I was the "he" you were refrering to) When i said that if you have a relationship with Christ you become more and more like him.....Meaning He wasn't a homosexual, so you wouldn't exactly becoming more and more like Him. Your reply "Your absolutely correct" that post seems like you're just saying "yes, that's a true statement" like i just said a fact out of the blue. And yes, i did explain it, but u quoted me 2 fast and missed the edit I know, you do become like Jesus, but that doesnt mean you just become perfect and stop sinning. Of course nobody is perfect, but when you surrender your life to Jesus, you have to change your lifestyle, with His help of course. Which is what my edit said.