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ok your worse then a wall. a wall doesn't talk back. arn't you getting it they !!!!!!!!can't!!!!!! pay back any money that they are given because all that money is going to paying off debts and is not actually being invested in making more. and these are under the un's definition of torture. google it!!! look at how several un human rights overseers are being kicked out of gitmo because of it. torture doesn't work!!!! tortureres won't stop if you say you know nothing a million times!!!! they are after information that they believe correct even though there is no evidence to support it. people answer torturers because they think its what they want and will end there pain not because its the truth. if i were to waterboard you a million times to get you to say your mom is an alien you'll say it not because its the truth but because it will end the pain. i'm not going to post on this thread anymore because you just are not listening to reason and humanity and is just turning into a flame fest Dude, don't take my world for it. Look it up. House Resolution 1424 the "Economic Stabilization Act of 2008". It is in the bill that all money will be gained back by the taxpayers from the financial institutions after 5 years.. And torture works. I would trust someone who has worked at CIA for years and knows their job over some dunce from Amnesty International. you know what, i promised i wouldn't post on this thread again but its americans like you who have no clue how the world works that really get under my skin. do i need to get the cards out again?? what part don't you get?? your government can pass all the bills it wants to. they can't make money out of thin air!!!!!!! all the money that is going to pay the banks is going to pay debts and keep their stocks up!!!!!!! they are still loseing money no matter how much the government gives them. they only way to actually fix the problem would be to give the money to american citizens who owe money on mortages, credit, ect. if they do this #1 forclosures are going to go down and every american citizen will still have a home instead of being forced out on the street #2 people will actually be able to buy food, clothing, and everything else that we humans deem essential #3 it will stop the banks from crashing!!!! the banks will no longer have to try and collect money from people who don't have a penny to spare and all there debts will slowly go away and the banks will not be loseing money on failed mortages and loans. if they don't do the banks are going to lose more money and your government will slowly crumble, just like your infrastructure, healthcare, education, and nuemerouse other systems that are decaying because your government cant afford to keep them running. don't believe me look at new orliens(srry if i misspelled). people were telling the bush administration for years that the levees would not hold. pick up an actual book for once and not what your government keeps feeding you. and i'm discusted that you actually think torture is ok. more often then not its inocent people who are forced to confess to things that they did not do. and again i'm disgusted by people like you who actually think that this is ok

lets c there was that attempt at 99 fletch nope 99 fm nope 99 cook nope 83 hunter nope then the 92 fm for adze made easier by the attempt for 99, so clsoe but i never want to see a log again -.- on the plus side got 85 slay and currently going for 90 slay and 99 hp. think i might actually finally finish one :thumbsup:

you need a black helm body legs and shield and wrong on the 2h part i know the 2h sword works and claws don't but i havn't gotten around yet to testing the other weaps

ok your worse then a wall. a wall doesn't talk back. arn't you getting it they !!!!!!!!can't!!!!!! pay back any money that they are given because all that money is going to paying off debts and is not actually being invested in making more. and these are under the un's definition of torture. google it!!! look at how several un human rights overseers are being kicked out of gitmo because of it. torture doesn't work!!!! tortureres won't stop if you say you know nothing a million times!!!! they are after information that they believe correct even though there is no evidence to support it. people answer torturers because they think its what they want and will end there pain not because its the truth. if i were to waterboard you a million times to get you to say your mom is an alien you'll say it not because its the truth but because it will end the pain. i'm not going to post on this thread anymore because you just are not listening to reason and humanity and is just turning into a flame fest

Those wouldn't qualify as torture. Dogs might but the rest are classified as degrading treatment I think. There might be a level below that even though. And It's in the text of the bill that all of the money will be recouped. That is the law now. It's not that complicado. :wall: :wall: seriously anyone else feel like this is talking to a brick wall??? ok lets try an experament, winters coming soon this is what i want you to do. tie yourself to a metal post outside so your forced to put intese strain on your back. take off all your cloths and lets see if you don't think thats torture. and the very deffinition of torture is .... can't believe i'm even explaining it...... the act of inflicting excruitiating mental or physical pain as a means to get a confession or information or merely for the cruelty of it.....now then is letting someone think that a rabid dog is going to maul you considered mental anguish? is letting your own family be tortured in front of you considered mental anguish??? lets see, put you hand on the hot stove....does it hurt???..need i go on? and since no one with any sense in economics is posting i will instead. ok lets go slow.... first. america has no money to loan!!! its over 10 trillion dollars in debt and the only way for them to get more money is either raise taxes or print more money which will cause inflation which...plz tell me i don't need to explain that even to u with me so far... ok phase two, the government then gives(take out that dicitionary, turn to the gs.....ok you find it?? now compare that to the word loan....no, no not roam, loan...notice anything?? like maby the fact that the word loan actually requires you to give something back) to every major bank. even though they have no money in the first place so is actually just adding to the already 10 trillion dollar debt. ok focus.. now then, now that these massive coroporations have these billions of dolars what have they done so far? last i checked one of them spent 500k on a massive 3 day spa trip for all its high ranking staff. what they should be doing is, o i don't know... maby get jobs that actually will make money to come back to america. instead there just paying off debts that they owe in the first place. this isn't going to fix anything!!! ok lets take out the cards...(i said i'd use more colorful language) say mr happy here> :thumbsup: has a failing buisness thats losing 100 dollars per month mr green here> :mrgreen: loans mr happy 100 dollars to pay off the debt but expects to get money back :thumbsup: pays off his first debt but because of the loan from :mrgreen: now then heres the problem :thumbsup: still has to pay $100 a month because that loan only paid for the first debt and didn't acttualy fix the original problem. :mrgreen: comes calling for his cash only to find out that :thumbsup: is even farther in debt then before. not willing to lose his evestment he then loans :thumbsup: more and more money, which still gets nowhere because the money is just paying for debts eventually :mrgreen: runs out of money himself and has to borrow from someone els lets call him mr red> :twisted: you getting it yet? this bailout is only paying off debts that the banks owe in the first place. there will be no money to return to the government because the problems that caused the banks to go under are still there (the mortage crisis, the credit crises, the fact that america owes 10 trillion dollars already, the fact that america has virtually no manufactureing to actually make money.) once all the debts are paid off this will all start over again because there is no cash left over to fix the problems that caused this. this will lead to the two things stated above. either the governement will be forced to print more money(inflation where eventually a choc bar will cost 1000 dollars can't wait) or it will have to raise taxes. period end of discusion there is no light at the end of this tunnel. america is still going to go into a depression. ask any economist who has any sense. these are the only possible outcomes of the bailout.

why why why did i get into this debate when americans are to ignorant to even listen to reason. for the love of god theres more to torture than water boarding!!!!!!! stress postions, hot cold extremes, having rabid animals threatened to be released on you when you don't speak. having someone actually torture your family in front of you. all of this is brought to you by the spanish inquisition, god its good to be out of the dark ages. and for the love of god someone with a degree in economics explain the bailout to him or i will and my language is going to be more colourfull

first off you seriously believe that only 3 people have been tortured?? second "the bush years" is not a micheal moor movie and was made by both members of bushes own party and the opposition. watch it before you critisize it. it a documentory about bushes life not a slander fest. it has everything from how his father treated him when he grew up to the pastor that got him to stop drinking. third. i'll say this again so it goes through that skull. how do you expect a country that is already trillions of dollars in debt to pay for a 700bil dollar bail out??????????? there are two choices either bring manufactoring jobs back to america so the country will actually start to make money(fat chance). second is to raises the taxes of every tax payer by thousands of dollars each!! now then lets look at it this way. make the corporations who fund your campains angry because they lose cash by bringing jobs back to america. or just raise taxes and pay off the bailout and keep your supporters happy as well? not that that will make the people happy. ignorant americans. but then again someone once said ignorance is bliss. Actually, yes. Only 3 people have ever been waterboarded. One was Khalid Sheik Mohamed who masterminded 9/11. I guess I'll say something again too. The $700 billion will be completely made back by the government. That was built into the legislation. They won't have to raise taxes to pay for it. o for the love of god.... i'm not even going to get in to the facts about torture because anyone with the internet knows that thats a blatant lie. and for your info do you seriously believe that only water boarding counts as torture? theres puting someone through hot cold extremes, having a military police/guard dog unmuzeld barking in your face and having someone threaten to release him if you don't talk, stressful body positions.i can go on and on and all of this is brought to you by the friendly spanish inquisition. god its good to be out of the dark ages. now then someone with an economics degree tell him its physically imposable to make 700billion dollars apear out of thin air!!!!!!!! and that someone, somewhere is going to have to pay that back

first off you seriously believe that only 3 people have been tortured?? second "the bush years" is not a micheal moor movie and was made by both members of bushes own party and the opposition. watch it before you critisize it. it a documentory about bushes life not a slander fest. it has everything from how his father treated him when he grew up to the pastor that got him to stop drinking. third. i'll say this again so it goes through that skull. how do you expect a country that is already trillions of dollars in debt to pay for a 700bil dollar bail out??????????? there are two choices either bring manufactoring jobs back to america so the country will actually start to make money(fat chance). second is to raises the taxes of every tax payer by thousands of dollars each!! now then lets look at it this way. make the corporations who fund your campains angry because they lose cash by bringing jobs back to america. or just raise taxes and pay off the bailout and keep your supporters happy as well? not that that will make the people happy. ignorant americans. but then again someone once said ignorance is bliss.

edit> decided to delet. this this thread has already gotten so far from the topic and this will just make a bigger flame war even though its a fact and americans on this forum seem to have a repulsion for facts and morality

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let me clear this up for you range is stating that he hates americans saruman is telling him how he should be proud to live in america. everything i just posted are facts about america,no matter how much americans whish to deny them, and this is supposed to be the country saruman said we should be proud of. make sense yet?? edit: incase your not getting it fact #1 america endorses torture. there are many prisoners in gitmo that suffer cruel, inhumane treatment every day. its gotten so bad that human rights activisits and oversight commities are no longer even allowed in gitmo fact #2 the presidant himself sighned numerouse bills making spying on american citizens legal, even if they are not even suspected of commiting a crime. fact #3 police no longer need any warant or suspision of a crime to search your person or property. bush sighned this bill to. fact #4 realised that this wasn't as clear in my last post but this is what it sums up to. if your parents are born in the midle east you most likely are on the terrorist watch list and will have a great time trying to fly. search this story.. about how a family was unable to board a plane because their 2 year old was on the terrorist watch list. fact #5 if you ever watched the documentory "the bush years" it has alot of info from bushes own party and supporters about him and the fact that several of the bills that he passed never went through congress. fact #6 where did you expect that 700 billion dollars will come from from a country that alreay ows over 10 trillion dollars?? the only way that bush will be able to raise that money will be for him to raise taxes. and if you take the 700billion dollars planned and divide it by every tax payer in america you get several thousand dollars worth of taxes that will need to be paid by every tax payer. make sense now why almost everyone hates america?

Then leave God damnit, I'll tell you one thing for sure: Europe ain't any better. Their society in general is crumbling (from what my dad says, he's a reporter) also, you should be PROUD to live here. I'm not saying laugh at less fortunate people in third world countries, but don't be so naive. Be grateful you are in a successful thriving country. Where you, unless you're extremely poor, lazy, or just down right unlucky, will have food on your plate. Be grateful, you can say "[bleep] you George Bush!" And you won't be thrown in jail for 10 years. Be grateful you can be an atheist, and be proudn to be one, and you won't also be thrown in jail for declaring it. Be grateful there's a chance to move up on the ladder of success. Be grateful that school is free. (Before college) Be grateful that we have a form of democracy, and not totalitarianism. Be grateful you can leave the country freely. Be grateful you can say '[bleep] you america' and you won't be jailed for lack of pride in your country. Seriously, it sickens me to see someone say that. Maybe you just live ina piece of [cabbage] town? Ever thought of that? I know a lot of stuck up Europeans, (and nice ones) and a lot of very nice, humble generous Americans. you missed one range_this11. ignorant. proud to live in a country that endoreses tourture? proud to live in a country where every phone call, ever e mail, every text message is being monitored? proud to live in a country where security is to the point where your belongings can be searcherd without reason? where you can have your rights stripped away because your parents are from the middleeast?(not making that up there's actually a 2 year old on the terrorst watch list...surprisingly, i'm not surprised) democracy?? some of the most important bills bush ever passed never even went through congress and were given to him straight from the print machine by the vice presidant and finally proud to live in a country where under the bailout plan every corporation will get millions of dollars while every tax payer in america will have to pay thousands of extra dollars per person?? america land of the free

its 10 per 4hrs for god swords, barrows, and other gw items, i'm not sure but i think that its 10 ea for tt items as well edit: regular tradeing doesn't affect the amount of items you can by on ge

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is there a difference between the abbysal demons in slayer tower and fairy rings? do they have better drop rates or charms? or are they just more conveniant than slayer tower?

you need to right click the gem then select how many you want to cut

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The guy who is too much of a coward to risk dieing for his honor. He doesn't respect his opponent and thus totally takes away his opponents chance of winning. That's sad in my opinion, I don't care what you think about it. If you really think that taking a gun to totally overpower the other guy, then go and cheat your way to victory. You are the reason why people don't trust eachother. Please be proud of yourself. By the way, my rsn is oropher84. did i say anywhere that i wasn't willing to die? i don't bring teles but i will use pray, food, pots summoning, anything to make sure that people like you will die and that i will get a drop nice stats btw

personally i want a neclace that can turn you into a flock(what is a groupe of bats called anyway??) of bats that you can then move around as. i would like it to be a neclace because you could then wear the easter ring and become a flock of flying eggs with teeth :thumbsup: i like the pet werewolf idea to though major edit!!!!--- wasn't there a guaranteed content poll about summoning a while ago. and on that poll there was a skelly wyvern pet

i do pk and i'm tired of people like you insinuating that i don't. what i'm tired of is people like you who try to make us follow the rules of pures that were made just so that they can have an easy time killing people. its called tactics. is a comander going to put his force head long into a force 10x greater than his? no hes going to break them up send them in different directions and try to break up the army into smaller picies and try to get at the supply convoys. if a pure noob thinks he is going to walk all over me just because he has higher strength i'm going to burst him. if a mage blitzes or barages me i'll range and eat to my hearts content. pking is about killing. its also about staying alive so that you do get those kills. who brings a gun to a knife fight? the winner edit-

i'm for my grandfather was put into the hospital when i was still yong. my parents never told me but my older brother explained it when i was 16. he said that he was suffering from a nuerolgical condition that was slowly destroying his motor functions. he asked the doctor to kill him because he didn't want to have my parents and grandmother see him like that. the doctors refuesed and then one day he threw himself down the stairs. he ended up spending the last two months of his life in a coma before my grandmother finally decided to turn off the machines. i would rather have some one killed by euthanasia then by having to resort to their own methods and having to put the family and themselves through more pain then they both have to.