Chapp3rs

I'm open to suggestions ;) My suggestion for range/mage bonuses on the Icyene cape were actually geared more towards hybrid PKers, or hybrid DKers. I also don't think that the capes should have specials at all. The Fire Cape is the best cape in the game. Don't fix what ain't broke. ;) well i used to go dks a lot, personally i found not having to bother picking up bolts too valuable, and if i am ranging and maging (aka tribrid) i use guthix cape for charge - i suppose high-end pkers might risk it however and i'm no good at coming up with a good suggestion (i realise it is hard), i can just do the critisizing of the current one :P

well that fire cape special is basically a clone of the bgs, so that sounds a bit dodgy if the icyene cape hits like vengeance, a 70 from a dharoker wouldnt recoil 35, as i do believe it affects the original hit not the boosted damage from special/dharoks to whoever said it above, i agree entirely that icyene cape should be more useful, but i suspect people would choose a god cape/accumulator over it for range/mage much of the time

nope, those things have always been able to poison without hitting

for speed, i would say roughly dharoks at about 30-40% hp = sara sword + mask - piety with unicorn, and i would often range pray with dharoks because it is far riskier

i think the belt from the leviations (no quest reward[/req? - you can decide if req to wear it] though) and the talismans from the boss (no slayer req for boss, if you can find a valid explanation for this during quest), and make the icyene cape of a similar droprate to monster heads, then i reckon this idea is workable :thumbsup: perhaps duradel or other slayer master(s) could deal with a super-high level version during the quest, and then teach you the trick to killing it, hence no slayer req, and the masters could only weaken it during quest, leaving you with the (albeit strong) version to fight again afterwards

now those talismans would make a worthwhile drop for a 95 slayer monster (or a miniboss) :) - if the belt is that good it should be a drop too (but then again....a drop like this reminds me of sigils/hilts...feels more like a boss drop than a slayer drop...) i was basically against the cape due to the fact that it was indeed so similar to the fire cape now you want to put the apparatus with a 1-up on skillcapes???? while i agree that most 95 slayers would have a couple of skillcapes, you by no means need 95 slayer to get this, as you only need to finish the quest, and any quest needing 95+ slayer would be such an enourmous rise in reqs for a quest that the rants forum would be completely filled, as the previous highest slayer req is only in the 60s or so - give it some minor defence, like an accumulator with a small prayer boost or something definitely improving, but i can't make it easy on you yet :P

almost nobody i know spends 1m+ a fire cape attempt, unless it is the first time you are using crystal bows in all honesty, a 1 in 500 drop would take far longer than a replacement fire cape, as i think most people will agree that the first fire cape is by far the hardest to get yay icyene :) i think untradeable status from a 95 slayer monster would be very unpopular, as no other slayer drops are, and in another 4 long levels you get another untradeable cape from slayer anyway an elemental/mind shield will also block a wyvern's icebreath. both the kbd's and the wyverns icebreath, although blocked in different ways, can easily hit for 50+ without adequate protection, and with adequate protection will almost always hit around the range of 5-10 damage (ie shield + pot at kbd or shield at wyverns) - perhaps yours could be more similar to this? apparatus in the arrow slot?!?! how could that possibly be realistic - plus it is unfair to rangers, as every meleer/mage would wear it if they could due to the fact of stat bonuses in the arrow slot - all in all a very strange idea there. and why -dragonfire- apparatus? does it breath fire or is it supposed to protect you against it? #-o ah well, you wont have me pestering you much more anyway (look left) :P . it is improving though ;)

personally, i pronounce icyene as ICY-een i think a droprate of 1 in 500 is massively more appropriate for a slayer monster, and --->while i do agree 95 slayer should probably have a monster<----, it should drop something more unique than what is effectively a different looking and occasionally weaker fire cape (this would still be worthwhile going through as a miniboss if you really insist on a cape like that) yes, the dragonfire shield really does work on the wyvern's icebreath as someone else pointed out which i kind of overlooked - fire breath underwater? come on lol one last point - you say it should be a slayer monster yet you make it impossible to use the black mask - another point to make it more of a miniboss like the mith drags (i still think this suggestion fits far better for a mith drag equivalent than a 95 slayer monster) i think a stab weakness would be more logical than slash, as it would have a better chance of sneaking through a gap in smaller scales, but no weakness in particular is just as good (yes i know the point before wasnt the last one, ive been remembering things as i go)

thats the kind of thing that made rs fun to play

ape atoll to 85, dorgesh-kaan to 99 it took me ~3 months of 2-3 hours a day to do it purely at ape from lv71, but i was getting easily distracted *cough* family guy *cough*

Hey Chapp3rs; Firstly, i believe swapping teams makes no difference.. if im with someone who has 1m lsp and then swap teams to someone else with 1m lsp, there will be no difference. For the purposes of understanding i have assumed no one swapped teams as it is hard to show in detail what will happen as you can never tell how much LSP someone else has Also i have seen no evidence to suggest LSP can go below 0. Also if it *can* it's impossible (to my knowledge) to find a probability using a negative figure. i can agree that it would be harder to use a negative figure, possibly more related to their difference in lsp rather than their actual amount? another point which i just remembered that makes me suspect this theory is that a friend went bandos a lot before CS, and i would imagine that he missed a fair few bandos plates/tassets etc (and got some too), but when he got a bandos hilt just before coinshare, he then failed to get any drops for a long time, while i regularly beat him to drops when i had been getting regular splits with him before that (at dag kings). of course this may all just be chance, we can only theorise after all and your theory could turn out to be the right one, or mine, or neither. I idly wondered about what it is really like myself, but never really got round to putting a theory into words

this is an interesting theory, but it doesn't really cover when you switch teams instead - i suspect that instead of just "paying back" the split of lootshare points from that split, you would "buy" them e.g. for the bandos hilt, all 3 players would pick up 10m in lsp, but the one who gets the hilt would then pay 30m's worth of lsp - although i have no idea if this could go below zero or not, it wouldn't surprise me if it could. of course, your argument about the onyx bracelet could well still hold, but my experience boss hunting would imply my one - once i recieved a bandos plate from lootshare, i did not recieve another item from various teams for a pretty long time. nowadays, everyone i monster hunt with seems to have fairly similar ls points though due to coinshare, and it doesn't make as much difference to me when swapping between teams

just a couple of little tips: 1) perhaps the icebreath would be blockable in a similar way to the wyvern's breath if you don't want it to work like the kbd's (if lacking in icebreath potions, a mind shield + antifire combo could be used, or a dfs covers both) 2) (this one may seem a little picky) it's icyene, not icene on the saradomin sword - perhaps this was deliberate, i couldn't say there - but i believe the icyene were a race of human-like creatures eg zilyana, the former queen of hallowvale. from what i gathered about them during quests, they did not seem to spend much time underwater either 3) while i do agree that this would make a nice reward, perhaps a (mini)boss monster, i do not think putting it at 95 slayer would be a good idea - currently the high level slayer rewards are more unique (i suppose you could call the boots unique if you like, as the set is slayer-only) rather than a slightly less powerful version of an existing item - and it would not have as low a droprate as you suggested, as even dark beasts drop bows about 1 in 500. i do think the idea is interesting, just not as a slayer monster though - it would just end up as a block task for a large amount of slayers as the odds would be like getting a dfh - probably not what is desired by the average slayer 4) i just have to ask, why the weakness to slash attacks in particular? most people use those anyway, and it doesn't make sense to me as slashing wouldnt be too effective against scales or plates (examine info)

noooo you found my secret to training agility (true actually, i practiced the exact locations to click) on topic: i do agree that slayer isn't the BEST combat exp, but one argument you missed out for it is the charms (if zombie monkeys do drop nice charms then i apologise, but they way you phrased your argument of no attention implies not). also, i personally find it fun, and i think dark beasts are quite nice to semi-afk (just checking every minute or two for bows, prayer and charms) - plus 83 slayer can have a benificial effect when you are getting killcount for gwd, especially sara. also, while this has been mentioned, training your slayer up does earn some respect. as another point, i have a maxed melee friend who after maxing decided to train slayer (to 99), thus leaving him with 73m attack exp (also he is bad at making money, to my knowledge he camped abyssal demons because of the fact that it makes money and trains combat, as he is bad at boss monsters). Finally, i can average 20-25k slayer exp per hour at slight profit, i fail to see how that is BAD exp. edit: i dislike the concept of having to add 287 or such like, but there it is anyway, i just forgot about it

i would imagine you need that crystal trinket or whatever it is called to go through the entrance

i noticed in the update news today that corporeal beast can now attack people underneath him too, i haven't got round to going to the corporeal beast yet, but this sounds like it could be pretty significant (nice guide btw, looks very well organised - i had a go at making some gwd ones and it just ended up a mess)

Can't you only have 1 of a race :? For me I never had them and meh camped alot at goblins and ghouls and always kill imps when I see them and never gottten them. #-o i have a friend who got 3 hobgoblin ones from bandos kc in a day

there was a thread on the rsof (don't know if it's still running or not) which was popular for people doing champ's challenge, it averaged out at about 1 in 5k for a scroll i believe (sorry if it was already said, i skimmed through) - so don't be too disheartened by killing 1-2k imps :P edit: i am lvl 134 and have had no hint of a scroll drop, i know a good amount of 120/130+ who had never even heard of it til i mentioned it to them

i think this is likely, except for the more shields part - i bet it will be helmets, amulets etc before more shields

you said the shield MIGHT only end up reducing the 3 and 4 hits etc, but it could equally work the other way - what if it reduces the damage on the high hits? this is after all an AVERAGE - and the extra 7% of so def boost for dfs vs elysian *when no other armour is worn* is by no means guaranteed to block that big hit anyway to using the shield in boss hunting, i would personally use it in place of my dfs at dks (i use whip/dds for hybriding out of choice anyway), arma and sara (when i get the money for it :P ) - and i never go bandos anyway, and net is being dodgy atm so no corporeal beast for me yet :(

same place i always have, just without a properly functioning internet :P

you try playing with modem speed that cuts out randomly every 15 minutes or so then stays off for hours at a time lol - and yes i'm supposed to have broadband, my isp blames the router company and vice versa

for those who are wondering, my internet is currently in an unplayable state, but i should be back in about a month when i'm settled in at uni.

i found a few things lying around i hadnt updated, and just quickly grabbed the last one ^all from jade vines, lol

tht where u go? i misses joo. :( lol i might be back by like august or so