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As I've said before hunting is a legitimate usage (or at least killing animals) Ohh, it wasn't animals. Explain?

As I've said before hunting is a legitimate usage (or at least killing animals)

I value human morale and integrity, those who maliciously offend it should have no part in our society. They are a detriment and an enemy to society, and I don't know how you could argue against that - they are the ones who kill people for little to no reason. They are what we should get rid of - not the practice of self-defense. Would you rather have an innocent child dead or an armed burglar dead? I value the detrimental less because without them, the people who actually do care about human morale and integrity would live more peaceful lives, which they deserve. The armed burglar is indifferent to an innocent person's right to life. Why give him a right he doesn't even agree with? He's undeserving and it's not worth the risk. Here's the thing - you forget that it is usually possible to have both the innocent child and armed robber survive. Having guns around lessens that possibility. So, in America, you believe that bringing guns off the main market will cause gangs, murderers, burglars, etc. to all of a sudden give up their ways of life? Making something illegal isn't exactly the best way to stop America from doing something. Let's take marijuana for example. It is not readily available on the main market, yet is still an extremely common activity amongst teens. The Prohibition Act showed exactly what happens when you ban something that Americans believe they deserve the right to. Ironically, it caused more problems because it allowed underground gangster alcohol trafficking to thrive. You're putting words in my mouth. Of course the gangs will still get guns. The murderers and burglars will turn to other weapons, and the survival rate will be higher, which the statistics prove.

Camelcasing :P As for what the port actually does, I've no idea.

Just out of interest, what would you consider the best Linux distro? I run ubuntu server edition and I'm quite happy with it.

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Canadian, living in toronto. There are almost as many Muslims as Christians here.

Terrorism is ineffective? Look at the state of the US now, compared to before the september 11 attacks. The whole point of terrorism is to terrorize, that's why random attacks are so effective.

Took me a while to get that..but lmao :lol:

I know it won't help. We all know that. What I'm saying is stop trying to defend gun control with stupid, end-of-the-line scenarios like that. Yeah, the scenarios aren't really helping either way. I will, I'll let you know how it turns out. Going ok so far :thumbup: @sees_all: I agree to an extent, but you forget that the harder guns are to get, only the most serious criminals will bother to get them. The chart felix posted that I've linked to several times proves this: gun crime is much higher in the states because guns are so readily available. As I've also said before, shooting range and collection is a valid reason to own a gun.

I have an OCZ psu anyway...

Congrats LGZ, you've done well over the past year :)

Lol I've never heard of video footage showing a woman in a niqab shoplifting. If a criminal wants to cover their face, they'll cover their face.

If I was trained, if I was comfortable, I'm sure I could handle it. I wouldn't want to, I'm a pacifist by nature and don't want to take a life, because I see the value of it. You've just summed up my point 100% - if you have a gun pointed at you possessing a firearm will not help. Your logic makes no sense - illegal or not someone possessing a firearm may be trained in how to use it. The gun laws are irrelevant in this case. Guns being legal: Man buys gun, commits crime. Guns being illegal: Man must first find a place to steal a gun from. Then he must successfully steal the gun. Then, while being hunted by the police for the theft of that gun, he must successfully commit another crime. Which is easier? You tell me. @Zierro - I'm not denying guns have their uses. All I'm saying is the chances of your average citizen being in one of those situations is very small - and not worth the negative effects of light gun laws.

I'm not going to bother backing up as I have windows, cod4, steam/tf2 installed and that's it. It's a samsung 750gb.

Oh ok :) No, cookies can't do anything at all, they can only be read.

So it's locked in a closet? Going to be pretty difficult to grab that in the heat of the moment, eh? And as someone's already iterated, I doubt even a trained soldier could manage to run and grab a gun before the person pointing it at him shoots.

Because I accept the fact that I'm not trained to use a firearm. I've never fired a gun before and don't relish the prospect of pulling one, having it taken from me because I'm incompetent with it, and having it used against me. @kreig - you're qualified. Most of the population isn't. Here's a scenario for you. Man breaks into your house to steal something, sees your guns. You come downstairs, he grabs one, points it at you. Now what?

I don't know a single person who's had a gun pulled on them, or who's been in a situation where a gun would have saved their life. I don't see why these lethal weapons need to be readily available when the fact is the opportunities they would be used are one in a million.

You're not safe...you don't live in a place that would make an ideal target, but it's certainly possible something could happen. For example: any bio-terrorism attempt might be focused on farm country.

Agreed with the above. I work with several muslim women (none wear a full face veil, but some wear the head covering) and I respect their right to do so. Only thing they can fairly prevent is getting photo IDs/using photo ID's. Other than that there's no grounds to enforce this.

Yes, but they're still equipped with guns. Some cases don't require the brute lethality of a gun. A street brawl or riot, for example, could easily be stopped with a taser. Now how about the situation where you see several armed burglars walk up to your front door? Or you see criminals shooting at your family? So... why are cops equipped with guns? And better yet, why are they a criminal's weapon of preference? If somebody is pointing a gun at you already, it's probably game over. The best thing would be to abide by their commands and, if you are ballsy enough, you could stealthily pull out a weapon if you get an opportunity. It's happened before - and I bet they'd rather have a gun with them than pepperspray. Maybe we should ask a cop. Your scenario is only based on the fact that the criminal already has a gun aimed at your head. What about the scenario where you see the criminals coming before they know where you're at? Or the scenario where the criminals only have knives? Pepperspray < knife < gun. I don't understand why you guys think it's a good idea for the innocent to be equipped with a less effective weapon than the criminal. Because equipping the innocent stoops them to the level of the criminal. As I've said before, let the people trained to do so exercise lethal force.

Not in the slightest. Tasers, pepperspray, mace...those are good self defense weapons because they are defensive by nature. There is nothing defensive about a firearm.

Article here: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/835148--french-ban-on-islamic-veils-easily-passes-vote French parliament voted to ban the niqab (full face covering worn primarily by muslim women). Penalities include fines, and huge fines if you force someone to wear it. Tourists to France can't wear them either. Personally, I'm a tad suprised they went this route. I think that the full face covering is a little extreme but it is a religious thing and thus they should be allowed to practice. A more ideal compromise would have been to not issue any photo ID to women wearing the veil. That way they could not drive, or vote, or do anything else requiring photo id(for good reason) - but they'd still have the freedom to wear the veil if they wanted to. Opinions?

I don't think anyone thinks it is, but a knife is not a gun. A sword is not a gun. A club is not a gun. A gun is a gun - and there's a clear and distinct reason why they are by far the most dangerous weapon the general population can possess.