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And vegetables smarter than many humans... Were you attempting to diss me? Lol Pathetic Do you think I was? Es no mi problemo latino! YOu state that the world is full of greed, meaning greedy people, understating that the guy who accepted is greedy. If thats not what you meant, than your post is pointless in this topic. I therefore state that the world is full of people dumb enough to create opportunities for greedy people, or even people who aren't greedy, but become greedy when they see how easy it is to become. But go ahead and believe what you want, just don't flatter yourself in believing everything is about you, simply because you were quoted.

And vegetables smarter than many humans...

How can you rise doubt about , if it was wrong of HIM? He can't possibly know if your some loon just trying to be nice after all...

since ur no mod u should stop urself :lol:

I'd like to see alot of people jump ship to be honest. Seeing as nobody seems to have any respect for the people who put time and effort into making the game, they shouldn't have any respect for the people RENTING their chars. Yes, you rent them, so don't fool yourselves into thinking that you actually have anything at all to say. Yeah, we're renting characters, but with real money. We have leverage. It's not an issue of respect. Because we're playing this game over other games we have respect for the game and it's makers. We just don't respect this particular choice of the game's makers. By playing it we're required to respect their every choice just because? Of course you're using real money, that changes nothing. You're still renting it and I advise you to read up on what your entitled to do with ur rs char, and NOT do, and truth be told they can ban ur char for any reason they want, even if ur paying them money, okay? With that in place, no, you don't have to respect every choice, but you don't have to demand a change either. And what you say goes both ways, they don't have to respect any choice by the gamer as well.

Easier to remove the whiners, moaners and groaners. Since your so into going into extremities in the first place. That way the people who actually like playing will still have a game.

I saw that before I wrote my article. It doesn't contradict what he said in my screenshot. There is no evidence here that they deliberately did this to take out stakers because they make too much money. It's POSSIBLE but there's no proof. Just because you WANT that to have been the reason doesn't make it so. As long as Jagex does these things and claims it is because of RWT, then their RWT approach is suspect and that's the subject of the article. So you're saying their excuse isn't good enough ? If the ONLY reason was to cut down on real world trading (and nowhere have they said they've gotten rid of it totally) , than thats a good enough reason to change staking as it has been. Who are you to call their approaches suspect, as if they are committing some heinous criminal act? The only criminal act would be to give in to the moaning and groaning of the general population. Just so you know, I don't WANT anything at all. I play f2p, have never tried p2p since january 2001, and stakers have never affected my in any shape or form. But what does affect me is the overdose of players trying to undermine Jagex and portray them as amateurs, or people who just don't care. Admit that the purpose of your post is to make jagex seem dumber than they really are. Only after people accept your first agenda, are they willing to take on the second one, that being that you don't trust their "rwt" campaign.

I'd like to see alot of people jump ship to be honest. Seeing as nobody seems to have any respect for the people who put time and effort into making the game, they shouldn't have any respect for the people RENTING their chars. Yes, you rent them, so don't fool yourselves into thinking that you actually have anything at all to say.

What you seem to be forgetting is that Jagex has specifically said that dealing with this imbalance issue is not why they made this change. I mentioned this in the article. Did you even read it? Then that would definitely suggest that you didn't read it. If they told the real reason they'd just have more whiners on their hands than currently. You're the one questioning Jagex, so how plausible is it that they might just have said what they said to calm down 13 yr olds who see staking as their life on RS. Yes, they COULD be lying, but that's not the point. They claim this was done because of RWT, and that approach is the topic here. These sorts of childish comments add nothing to the discussion. I already said clearly that I said there might be other reasons. The Duel Arena Update Quick find code: 27-28-630-54011496 : page 378 I quoted this from another post.

I agree with Mod Mark.

The STAKING update was needed... It was extremely overpowered MONEY FOR NEWBIES and was not even meant to replace normal MERCHANTING or MONEYMAKING. Hope you like my revised version of your quote. Again, Jagex said this is NOT why they did it. You are off topic. You go ahead and believe that. I'll choose to believe what I believe, just like you believe Jagex is all out to get you because they hate you and wish to destroy your perfect idea of gaming.

What you seem to be forgetting is that Jagex has specifically said that dealing with this imbalance issue is not why they made this change. I mentioned this in the article. Did you even read it? Then that would definitely suggest that you didn't read it. If they told the real reason they'd just have more whiners on their hands than currently. You're the one questioning Jagex, so how plausible is it that they might just have said what they said to calm down 13 yr olds who see staking as their life on RS.

The STAKING update was needed... It was extremely overpowered MONEY FOR NEWBIES and was not even meant to replace normal MERCHANTING or MONEYMAKING. Hope you like my revised version of your quote.

I hope they throw it in the bin. History proves that listening to players and their complaints merely screws it up more. This post actually does more negative effect in the long run. Do you think you could possibly explain *why* you write off the whole article as being "more negative effect in the long run"? I thought it was obvious that this post is like all the others.. An attempt to undermine Jagex' authority, decisions and pretty much their image as a good company. For gods sake the post even mentions WTC 9/11. So it seems you *cannot* come with any good counter-arguments, you just think my article is bad and that's that. Okay. :) I don't think your article is bad, I just think its a fancy version of another whining post about staking.

Makes no sense bawling your eyes out over something that they won't give back . Raising to 5k is obviously a smack in the face to the whiners, one they deserve, and I'd happily do it IRL to everyone of them with a metal glove. And you misread my last lines, I'm talking about the stakers to stop whining. If you take it personally its not my affair. p.s. IMBALANCED, and illegitimate are two different words, where do i mention illegitimate?

I'm just saying that its tasteless to mention 9/11 on a gaming forum that has nothing to do with it, much less draw parallels between the two, simply to try to win ppl over in a debate.

I hope they throw it in the bin. History proves that listening to players and their complaints merely screws it up more. This post actually does more negative effect in the long run. What? How could they possibly screw up staking more? They KILLED it. Yes, your point being, what? Stakers don't own RS, they need to shut up and get over it. And quick. The comic raise up to 5k per 15 minutes should be a big sign, enough for even dumb people to understand that Jagex has made their decision, and if not respected, than stop playing. And by all means stop paying $5. I'm sure even Jagex would rather miss out on money than keep having a barrel of rotten apples intent on spoiling the bunch. Fook, we understand that you think just dm'ing in the wild is fine, but jagex had a great system in place that people could all meet together and have duels. Whether or not a duel can occur in the wild like it would in the arena has no bearing. The point is that jagex had a great thing going for people. Those people invested a ton of time into it. And jagex just took it away and ruined the practicality of it, turning the duel arena into another gimmicky minigame. Just because it doesn't effect you doesn't mean it doesn't effect a lot of other people. Qeltar, great article. I was thinking of writing something along the same lines, but you did a perfect job. Really though, with the way they're approaching rwt, what'll be next? Protecting us from drop trading by limiting us to only be able to drop 3k on the floor at once? Only allowing us to drop 1 item per hour? Making it so we can only drop items at certain predetermined locations? They've already made items like spinach rolls needlessly untradable, what else are they going to do? By taking these drastic measures to protect the 'honest players,' they're ruining the game for them. I can't help ask if the end really justify the means. I understand that YOU think there was a stable duel system running. But. Is it rational that a level 50 has more money than someone level 99 smithing who worked for it? Is it rational that a level 50 has BILLIONS worth in items, gained in few months, when someone else playing the exact same game for longer has practically nothing, seeing as the person wanted to .. hmm lets just say construct, or do smithing. I'm sure you can see how imbalanced that is. It was ridiculous that stakers, a mere different kind of fighter, with stats so obvious and so easy to get, could be the most powerful people in RS, moneywise. Lets face it, its only because people can't make millions in a matter of minutes, that they whine like female dogs now. Well news flash, people played before staking was changed, and they certainly will AFTER. I know I will, and I hope that the ones who played for staking ONLY, actually do quit. Either that or stop whining.

Alot of people think they are being as polite as paying customers can be, when they write utter [bad things] like that, and than they expect an answer. I wouldn't be surprised if a mod actually reads it, see's how downright idiotic the message is, and clicks a button saying "automated response".

I hope they throw it in the bin. History proves that listening to players and their complaints merely screws it up more. This post actually does more negative effect in the long run. Do you think you could possibly explain *why* you write off the whole article as being "more negative effect in the long run"? I thought it was obvious that this post is like all the others.. An attempt to undermine Jagex' authority, decisions and pretty much their image as a good company. For gods sake the post even mentions WTC 9/11.

I hope they throw it in the bin. History proves that listening to players and their complaints merely screws it up more. This post actually does more negative effect in the long run. Actually, they listen to the majority, and the majority is mostly 13-12 year olds who just want to have an "Ub0r pwnz0r" account with 1200 blue partyhats. These people don't understand the game enough to actually make changes. But some people here at tif actually try to understand how the game will flex if an update is made. How the market will be effected, how pking is effected, how skilling is effected, all sorts of variables. If Jagex listened to intelligent players more then the masses, then yes, the game would improve loads. You only speak half-truth though. I know many don't agree with this post, and they aren't dumb 13-12 year olds, who's way of winning a debate is who can scream the longest and loudest. So fact of the matter is, that intelligent people also disagree, meaning we wouldn't get much further from the state we're in. I don't think Jagex should listen to anyone at all except themselves. Fun though, in 2001 jagex actually DID listen to the intelligent players, more than the masses. and still rs2'ers say that their game is better.. maybe now ppl know why RSC is better and will remain better in the eyes of those who played it.

I'm sure Jagex thought of how to deal with that... (sarcasm). Duellers are mentally impaired if they can't think of another way to make money. And it will be their own effing fault if they stay poor now.

I hope they throw it in the bin. History proves that listening to players and their complaints merely screws it up more. This post actually does more negative effect in the long run. What? How could they possibly screw up staking more? They KILLED it. Yes, your point being, what? Stakers don't own RS, they need to shut up and get over it. And quick. The comic raise up to 5k per 15 minutes should be a big sign, enough for even dumb people to understand that Jagex has made their decision, and if not respected, than stop playing. And by all means stop paying $5. I'm sure even Jagex would rather miss out on money than keep having a barrel of rotten apples intent on spoiling the bunch.

I hope they throw it in the bin. History proves that listening to players and their complaints merely screws it up more. This post actually does more negative effect in the long run.

I have my own ideas about who should and should not be on the list. It's not the same as your list probably but I just bite my tongue sometimes when I see certain names. :wall: Especially when it is some late-starting prayer beast. *shudders* llama's just jealous that "k y jelly" his noob , sucked [wagon] :P p.s. i also think master razor deserves a spot up there, I know you're kidding, but that was not the name of my noob lol dude ya it was.. or else it was dmxkobe8's .. or somebody else.. damn iu cant remember

And like everyone else you were unrightfully banned and a victim of jagex's "oh so inadequate" customer service.. :roll: if i were jagex I wouldnt even have customer service after 1 week of opening mails from runescape kids after all, if they dont know how to play, much less argue for their case (just read half the whines about being banned on these forums) why shouldn't they be treated accordingly?