Den

Making item on a money? :D And btw, that was my 10th staff so tough luck to the ones next on my so called "sol list" somone created. I won't be wasting points on canceling tasks and having to do cruddy tasks because I have no points left. So now my Ice Strykewyrm tasks will be less frequent, and by that, I'll get less staffs. Anyway, congrats the the early ones on my "sol list" or whatever. I feel special to have gotten one before the "list" was made. :P Still have mine, loving it. :)

Exactly. Jagex can't release anything high leveled, because chances are, SOMEONE is going to complain about how they actually have to WORK to get it, and they will change it. High level content requires HIGH LEVEL SKILLS AND ITEMS to be able to use! And I'll bet the people who demanded a compromise wanted it so they can kill the wyrms just to get SoL's to sell, only now, due to the compromise, they are most likely going to crash. Good job Jagex. I would love an agility dungeon like ravian's example. :P Kinda sad how it wont ever happen. :unsure:

I also hope its more then just changing the exp rates and adding a few more imp.

Hello impling rewamp + new implings like they said in the dev blog a loooong time ago. :)

So you believe Jagex changed their entire update ideology over the negative response they got on the RSOF? What about all the updates in the making, we know developing content takes months! I do yeah. They've allready said they wont be graphic updating barrows because of "possible negative response in the community".

Yeah, made me dissapointed. :(

Actually, he said he thinks there should be more then 1 more myreque quest before the final. He didnt actually say any would come out this year. :P

Minigames such as the Fight Caves were designed to be optional parts of the game that aren't needed for the "main part" of it. People who trained slayer above lvl 85 and then 90 have been waiting for a new monster for ages. And then to be told that you need to complete an optional piece of content which is flawed in many ways is bullcrap. I think Jagex's original idea behind this was "what minigame reward can we give another use to, to make it seem less crap". Agreed 150% Ice Strykewyrms are far from the "Main Part" of the game. Its all ok that slayers have been waiting for a new high level monster, but that doesnt make it any less optional. You are most likely right about your last sentance, but it doesnt change the fact that Ice Strykewyrms are optional. They arent required to complete anything, so tell me how Ice Strykewyrms arent optional.

To be fair, killing Ice Strykewyrms is as optional as getting a fire cape. :P Its not like you NEED to kill them for some quest or for an achievement diary. (Though I could see them as an elite freminnik diary task.)

Why? By your logic, all the bugs should remain in updates, perhaps it sounded reasonable at first, however, player response plays a big part in updates. It goes to show the more were complaining about the requirement, and Jagex saw it suitable to make alterations based on player feedback. Just forget I said that line. I ment the whole caving in thing which: Rien summed up.

I liked Libs' suggestion on the previous page. Have the wyrms be killed with 93 slayer, but say no damage dealt to them would exceed 30 without the fire cape. With fire cape, damage over 30 would be possible aswell as having the +4 damage (same as ferocious ring) and boosting fire magic like what happens now. The task would also need to be bought from a slayer master for like 1000 points. Anyone with 93 slayer should have that much. This would be like the slayer master telling you the secret to killing them without a fire cape. (Like how slayer masters teach you the secret of making slayer masks) Id settle for that to be honest.

Got some nice pictures there. Brings back memories. :P Welcome to TIF aswell!

For the all the test renders, the actual building of the models, the refinements it takes alot of work, (I had never used the software before so it took a lot longer to actually do simple tasks find certain buttons etc) I was going for that kind of style personally I'm glad I did it, just not the final render ;) and I appreciate the opinion if that's not your sort of thing then thats fine :razz: there are far more pieces of art that didn't make it into the 30 seconds, I could always submit to the players gallery :thumbup: Okay, I just know you are capable than a lot better than that. Hey, do me favor. We need to get together and make a Maury Povich Paternity Tests mchinima. We can even pack in multiple jokes in one. I mean I'm over 9000% sure that Den is my baby's daddy. :razz: Say what? O.O

I was waiting for the "SO BUY A STAFF OF ARMADYL TODAY!!!!!!" to come from some random passer-byer. :P I like the animation effect it had though.

Fair enough, and true. Im just mad because they gave in, its my whole issue here. As long as they keep giving in, the ranting wont stop. It proves that whining about something long enough will eventualy get it that way, as long as it doesnt have anything to do with RWTing. I wish they would just leave content how it was added and not change it a week or two later.

Carl, the whole point here is people whined because they couldnt get them assigned without a fire cape. They couldnt kill them without a fire cape. They couldnt get their drops without a fire cape. You only get them as tasks IF you allready had the fire cape from before. If you didnt have the cape, you didnt get them as tasks. But since some people without fire cape and 93 slayer seem to think they should be get all slayer updates no matter what other requirements they hold, Jagex decided to nerf them. People were whining and ranting about needing a fire cape, now most people with a fire cape and 93 slayer, plus everyone who wants a challenge, is ranting because Jagex gave in to whiners in the first round. The difference is this is how it will be now and there is nothing anyone can do to change it. I cant remember Jagex ever buffing something back to how it was originaly after nerfing it. They could have been working on something else instead of using time on something that was never broken. <_<

Firecape is a minimum of 1 hour? Whereas the best castle wars armour is upwards of 200 hours? Hardly comparable. Isnt it like 2 or so months of 7 hours a day castle wars? :P But as its been said, no need to worry. It will just get nerfed to require the lowest castle wars armor , with the best one giving you a +4 hit bonus.

I'm thinking of a 4 digit number, starting with 5. Den, 100-500 slayer points is NOTHING. I can easily do 6+ tasks a day. It should cost more like 1500-2k points. I have 88 slayer, im well aware how much 100-500 points is and how long it takes. Il mark my post with [sarcasm] next time. My whole point was its been nerfed once, why not nerf it some more while they are at it? Thos whole thing would have been all nice if it was the original update, but I dont like how its been changed to it from something which worked perfectly fine. People who complain about lag at Jad will have a fun time with the 30 hits Wyrms like to land on people aswell.

I wouldnt be surprised if it cost 100-500 slayer points to unlock Ice Wyrm Tasks.

Nice.... Elite content just became master content. No big whopping surprise here. The only way id see this compromise as fair is if the task cost 5k slayer points or more. Jad is now off my to do list again. Im just glad the makers behind Nomad's Requiem had enough gutts not to nerf Nomad. 2010, the year of awesome nerfs. :)

I knew they would cave in. :P Elite content doesnt exist in Runescape and never will. Whiners will just make the elite content into master content with all their whining. Im glad I didnt get a fire cape now, because id be even more pissed if I did get one.

I have no faith in the staff of light rebalancing the WHOLE combat triangle. Its a start, but its far from rebalanced.

A friend of mine was doing this. He had like 100k or so I think. He didnt have any plans of getting rid of them, as it would take quite a long time. Its just like making any other potion, you just cant get rid of them easily.

Im not a big fan of this update. I dont know why, it just isnt my cup of tea. Got 47 shards, not sure how long that would be with 3x charms. Im assuming 31 minutes as (max 3x charm time) divided by (max shards obtainable) = Time per 1x shard 1 shard = 0,6666 Use that times the amount of shards you get while in the obelisk = your total 3x charm time. Cant like everyone update though, I guess.

A nice read. Brings up many good points, but im still glad I kept my fury and had it before the shop change.