Romy

You forgot weapons and ammo, sent with the intent to harm Israeli citizens. Israel supplys what it can to the Gaza strip, but it cannot let weapons reach the hands of the Hamas, that's just irrational. Then why did the rest of the ships have no problem with being searched? They weren't aggressive, they let the soldiers do their thing and leave. It's very, very, very unlikely that any of these 3 countries would break the peace agreements. You'll live to see that statement has no valid basis. Turkey is currently very biased against Israel, which can be seen by what's going inside of Turkey, and out.

If it wasn't for the blockade, weapons would have been sent there in extremely large amounts. Do you have any idea how many times Israel had caught weapons sent there with the intent to harm Israel, including Israeli citizens? Through ships and tunnels? To recap what seems thus far to be the central claim of Israel apologists: Israel is the official Owner of international waters (which is where the flotilla was when it was attacked). As such, they have the right to issue orders to ships in international waters, and everyone on board those ships is required to obey and submit. Anyone who fails to do so, or anyone in the vicinity of those who fail to do so, can be shot and killed and get what they deserve. These ships were unsupervised. Israel has a history with these things, it cannot let it go by without searching. Israel sent messages to all the ships, and 'Marmara' is the only one that started attacking. The rest weren't attacking, and were neither attacked. Israel was wrong for doing it inside itnernational waters, but the same thing would have happened a few hours later in Israel's national water. I can't back up this theory, but I think what happened is that Israel took notice of these ships, knew they were unsupervised, and decided that the best thing that can be done is stop the ships as soon as possible. 'Marnara' DID contain weapons.

No idea where you could possibly see those. :P

Here are some quotes I translated from Hebrew: 1. "We got down there with bare arms and and "Paint-ball" guns, we were prepared for no violence, we thought we could end this in peace. As we were getting off the ropes, 15 of us, we noticed 30 people waiting on the roof. They were prepared for war, rushed at us and threw some of the soldiers to the floor below. Some of us jumped to the sea, out of fear of a second attack. We never thought we'd get to that point, we didn't come prepared with many weapons, other than the gun that was supposed to be a last resort." said one of the 15 soldiers. 2. A second one said: "It's funny to think about the way we treated all of this when we started preparing for the operation. We all understood we were going there to discuss things, not fight. Each of us had to deal with three-four men, and as a last resort, I took the gun out and started shooting their legs, because I knew I had to stop them. As we were getting off the rope, the passangers grabbed the rope and tied it to some iron parts, trying to disrupt the helicopter. During the struggle we clearly identified shooting at our direction, from the ship." 3. The chief in command of the IDF, Gabbi Ashkenazi described the operation: "Tonight the navy operated in order to prevent unsupervised entry of men and cargo to the Gaza strip. After the requests on our part had proven to be a failure, the soldiers took over the ship. What happend on 'Marmara' isn't like the other ships. The second our forces reached the ship, violence trigged, with the usage of iron weaponry, poles, knives, and shooting. It was clear to me that said violence required reaction, and our soldiers did what they were told." 4. The commanding officer of the Israeli navy, Eliezer Marom said: "We went on our mission after notifying the ships, that apparently ignored the messages we sent them. Upon reaching 'Marmara', in which there were about 600 passangers, the soldiers were attacked with different weapons. In order to protect their own lives, our soldiers had to use weapons, so they could prevent their own deaths. At first our soldiers were restrained and tried to stop these occurences from happening. The result of 15 deaths could have been much worse." Translating is tough :unsure: ...

You'll need lots of self discipline, so good luck. ;) Don't do things that go against your goal, even if it seems comfortable and nicer to do. And tell us how it went in the end. :)

I'm better than you because I can handle responsibility . :P

Because she consciously/unconsciously knows you'll do that for her. She has no reason to work for it when someone else does it well enough. That's exactly the reason I gave you this advice.

I'm better than you because that only means you have less POWER!

I'm moving this to Help&Advice. You should be able to get better advice there. ;)

That's something you're going to have to deal with, IMO. Otherwise, it can get tough. Unmutual relations have a tendency of becoming very hurtful. The best advice I can give you, is not to call her or anything like that for a while. If she calls, try to act indifferent towards her and not contribute to the conversation much. It's going to be tough, but it's worth it. Then, either she'll move on, and then you know she doesn't care and are better off without her, or she'll miss you and try to fix things, and most importantly, appriciate your connection and friendship.

That would make them better than you at killing, and make you just an evil person with no physical abilites. XD ^Yeah, that makes me a whole lot better~!

I'm better than you because failure is never a good reason for being better than someone else. :D!

I'm better than you because you didn't "ban" anyone either, yet accused TB>Z< for that. Lol, wrong thread buddy. ;) EDIT: Here's what you're looking for- http://forum.tip.it/topic/29062-the-youre-banned-game-over-22000-banned/

Irrational people. Gets to me more than anything. And unless it's a Krav Maga tournament, he won't have any friends anymore. :o... you speak Hebrew :P? It's always surprising to find out there's one more in these forums...

You obviously have to be pretty smart if at the age of 10 you analyze what you swear for, and refuse to on the basis of what's happening in reality. Even adults often ignore these things. I don't see how you can miss his brilliance. Oh, and he did mention racism, sexism, etc. To negate the off-topicness - I was a lurker before I made this account. At some point I just decided to, I have no idea why. To my recollection, I did care about postcount at first. Today I couldn't give a damn. :P

I'm better than you because that's what I said two posts ago.

Most kids are. ;)

I'm better than you because that's the second video you posted in this thread.

@Saruman- Here's one for you ;): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOcAWn7Rp9s The child's a genius. If he was a poster on TIF, I'd take good notice of every one of his posts. It's only safe to assume - the older he gets, the smarter he'll become. While I understand the vast majority of children wouldn't do anything even remotely close to that, that's a living proof that "agism" is just plain off wrong. Listen to the person, regardless of their age, and if they make no sense, ignore it. Many adults make no sense either, and I doubt they did when they were children, and not because they were children. I think you'd be glad to know there are quite a few 11-14 year olds that are... "Economical Geniuses". Thinking about this rationally, when it comes to economics, I'd be glad to hear their opinions over many other adults, for example. As I said, soft in years does not equal soft in wisdom. That "stereotype" (if you can even call it that) came from the fact that the older you get the smarter you get. You can still be smart as a kid, or dumb as an adult. Kids shouldn't be disregarded so easily and quickly.

Luckily, Wikipedia is considered OK on school works here, so no need for fancy sites or whatever. :P By the way, happy birthday mister. ;)

Soft in years does not equal soft in wisdom. ;) I've had quite a few chances to learn that on my own. Although, generally, the older you are - the smarter you get. I'll give you that.

Sounds good. Is that really synesthesia though?

Not in English, but meh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Ezz8SEvCg

Oh God, I never knew people actually have planned steps for these things..... That takes out SO much of the experience. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I prefer natural, non-planned behaviour over steps known in advance. "For the love of God!" I guess, if it makes some guys (or gals) more confident about themselves, it's somewhat worth it. I just hope none of my ex partners pre-planned anything they did. Gah, these memories would lose so much of their weight if they did...

Actually, I've come to learn that the vast majority of this planet's population has no idea what Schitzophrenia really is... so it's likely nobody ever knew you were wrong.