MstrMonopoly

Skilling can be fun, but I only like production skills (Smithing, Herblore, FMing). Gathering skills seem pointless to me at times. The only one I've ever enjoyed, really is fishing, which was my highest skill at one point.

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I cooked for a trimmed skillcape, then lold a couple of days later when I beat Nomad.

That is true if you consider there to be no combat skills in the game, as in, those skills can't be trained as they come hand-in-hand with slayer, IF you consider there to be combat skills in the game, and understand that training them takes time, too, slayer shouldn't be, and looking at how popular it is, isn't a particularly hard skill. Slayer is a hard 99 if you are 99 att/str/def/hp/ranged/magic and summoning, as the only efficient xp you are getting then is slayer xp, and the rate is the lowest in game. If you aren't maxed in those stats, slayer can be considered 200-300k an hour skill. As for training skills with no stats at all, it is whole new discussion and really hard to realistically simulate, so assuming 80-99 or 90-99 is much more relevant in the discussion(since there is no reason to max out skills without becoming atleast somewhat wellrounded). I'd tend to agree. I mean, training Slayer even from Turael assignments is incredibly futile with Level 1 Attack, Strength, and Defense with no other skills or money. That being said, I'm going to have an awfully hard time training slayer after I've maxed Strength, Defence, and Ranged. Strength and Defence both have about 6.5M XP left, that's 13M total of xp and about 4.25M more slayer XP. After that, it's less than 2M for Ranged. There's still another 1M experience or so left to go... ugh. At least cannon will help mitigate some of that, but boss hunting will give all that and more back. I may be stuck at 97 or 98 Slayer for a long time.

Again, I challenge you to prove to me that I don't have fun training skills in a method that you deride as "grinding". It's not about methods which are boring but about people who are bored by a method and complain about it while doing it, for something as a skillcape which only offers fun(in the sense of achievement) for a very limited amount of time. Runon sentence is a runon, hey, look, my bicycle was just stolen and two thieves are running away from my building, maybe I should catch them but I'm too busy powerslaying so I think I won't and oh my god one of those thieves was my brother and look the other one was my dad, maybe they're just going to get my bicycle serviced, I think I'm just going to go do something like boss hunting or continue slaying, I don't know, I think that Nickleback is awesome, do you? I have fun doing things in an efficient manner. I don't impose my playstyle on anyone else. I do some things in an inefficient manner, namely Fletching because I can't stand making bolts or doing something like that.

Dude, I thought I was so cool playing Diablo 2 when I was like 10 because it was an M rated game. Then I discovered the simple joys of RuneScape: crap graphics, amazingly lame quests (Sheep Shearer = Pluto btw, I mean wtf, once it's a quest you can't take it back noob, Pluto will always be a planet), bad weapons (remember this is 2004), and a fantasy setting that's so totally not immersive. In conclusion, I play RuneScape because my mind has rotted.

Im sure this is sarcasm AGAINST monster hunters. but this displays the powerful point of risk vs reward. Skillers have no risk they can watch a movie and do homework while MHers have to pay attention while there, could lag out and die anytime, could have a really bad dry streak to get their reward. Frankly they deserve the better reward for the 5+ 99's needed for efficiency and for the constant attention. No such requirements for woodcutting. 75 for magics, should take you about 3 days on a new character, and the price reflects the effort put in. And Est0rrath the day bots can autonomously solo merchant/monster hunt is the day I bot. :thumbup: Till then order exists and skilled players reap the rewards and uneducated players continue bashing their head against the wall with terrible methods Nah, I was actually killing a TD at the time and it combod me, lol. No sarcasm intended in that post.

Guys, firemaking is NOT hard. You can do it in like a week, not no-lifing at all, if you have a good Barbarian Assault team. It doesn't require much mental attention, just clicking. I found firemaking to be the easiest of my 99's, even cooking. The experience bar just went up so fast that I was almost surprised that I had 99. No pun intended, but I wasn't even CLOSE to "burned out" by 99 firemaking. I felt like I still had a good 4-5M experience left in me, and after I max out my melees, I think I'm going to get 15 or 16M firemaking just for the lulz. Oh, by the way, Slayer is easily the hardest if you're starting out with level one everything.

Gaise plx I only have 92m of my turm goal I want cheaper d bones now plx. If those bots werent thar d bones wud be liek 10000 each!!!1111 or something crazy liek that also gaise its not liek skilling r dead @ money bc last i herd u cud still make liek 300k an hour doing something relaxing while u watch movie or do homework and if u do 3 hrs of homework a day and watch 2 hour movie that r 1.5m that u wud not have otherwise. so liek if u attempt to do tds while u do hw it wil result in massive ponage 2 ur faise ow ow ow that is the td pwning me now kthxbai

The two bots that I know by name are "Robotz in Disguise" and that one that got shut down. From what I've heard, Robotz are uncatchable and can respond to anything that people say.

Fair enough, the values can always be changed. I'd like the experience to be capped at around 70k/hour. Bear in mind that's about 1/5 of what current training methods, costing only 23 gp/xp can give.

Uh... Well there goes a good source of exp (for now) those nubby 1def pures were perfect training dummies for all three styles + the zeals you get. Ice Blitzing them used to be a looot of fun

After cleaning herbs "came out" to the public as a cheap and effective way to train herblore, they became expensive and inefficient. Herblore needs a cheap (profitable?) and slow way to train. This method should not infringe on the current powertraining methods (making extreme ranges or sara brews from (unf) pots). It should also not top any existing methods of moneymaking or introduce should make Herblore too much new, imbalanced content. With that in mind, this update should make Herblore even more powerful than it is already. However, these new, untradeable potions will have powerful effects for skillers more than monster hunters, and should make Herblore a non-combat skill as well as a potent (no pun intended) combat skill. The proposed minigame is called Apothecarys Assistant, and involves one doing a Treasure Trail-esque mission for the Apothecary. He will ask you for a list of special ingredients. These ingredients will vary from a crushed sapphire to a fire rune or a rare, untradeable ingredient such as a special herb one has to grow in a special herb patch, requiring a Farming level. Missions will come in three distinct varieties: easy, medium, and hard missions. You may select which type of mission you want to do. In an easy mission, 4-5 ingredients will be required, the mission should take approximately 10 minutes, and reward one with around 6,000 experience points in Herblore. A medium mission will require 6-7 ingredients, take 20 minutes, and reward about 15,000 experience points in Herblore. 40 Herblore will be required. Finally, a hard mission will require 8 ingredients, take at least 30 minutes, and reward 50,000 experience points in Herblore. A sample easy, medium, and hard mission are below. In a hard mission, one may have to boost in order to get an ingredient. Heavy combat will be required for a hard mission. In all missions, one of the ingredients will be a vial filled with water from a special source. Easy Mission Ingredient List - Crushed Fire Rune - A Fresh Salmon (caught only on the banks of Edgeville during this mission. The ratio of real salmon to Fresh Salmon is about 15:1 so this step may take a while) - Draynor Manor cabbage - Vial of Water filled from the underground river from Hazeel Cult After getting all the ingredients, one must secure a holy blessing from Brother Jered at the Monastery. Then, mixing all the ingredients together (done with the help of the Apothecary) will take 2 minutes, thus preventing high level players from getting excessive amounts of experience from low level missions. Medium Mission Ingredient List - Grain from Grain of Plenty - Clean Verbrole (special herb that can be planted in a new herb patch in Falador, takes 5 minutes to grow and harvest. You may do other parts of the mission while waiting.) - Nightshade - Four-leaf clover (harvested only in the Champions Guild rooftop, must individually check each clover for four leaves. This step should take around 4-5 minutes by itself). - Gunthors Potion (can only be obtained by killing Gunthor the Brave) - Vial of Water from Wilderness Pool near Bandit Camp This potion would then be blessed by Brother Omad of the Ardougne Monastery (like all medium-level potions). It would then take 3 minutes to make along with the Apothecary. Hard Mission Ingredient List - Armadylian Feather rare drop (1:30 or so) from Aviansies, 100% drop from Kreearra - Crushed runite ore - Supercharged Air Orb (must charge yourself) - Recover Special Potion - Burnt Shark - Phoenix Feather - Crushed Bork Bones - Vial of water from Poison Waste south of Lletya The potion would then be blessed by a Zamorakian Monk at ZMI. It does not take any time to make at the Apothecary. Rewards: After making a potion, 3 things will happen. You will be rewarded with your experience and coins (5,000 for a easy mission, 10,000 for a medium mission, 30,000 for a hard mission in coins), and one of two things if you have made this particular potion for the first time (the easy mission, for example, was an Adept Fishing Potion), that potion will be unlocked. If you have made the potion already, you will be rewarded with tokens that you can buy potions with. (NOTE: THE POTIONS WILL HAVE DIFFERENT INGREDIENTS EACH TIME, SO STOCKPILING INGREDIENTS WILL NOT BE USEFUL UNLESS ONE HAS 200+ BANK SPACES). An easy mission will reward about 100 tokens, and an easy potion will cost 50 or so tokens. Medium missions will reward about 200 tokens and a medium potion will cost around 100 or so tokens. Hard missions will reward about 500 tokens and a hard potion will cost around 200 tokens. The Potions- These are just concepts. All potions are one dose unless otherwise noted. More can be added later- Adept Fishing Potion (unlocked from Easy: 50 tokens) Causes fish to be caught at 2x the rate for 5 minutes. Reduces experience to 75% of usual. Adept Woodcutting Potion (E: 50) Causes logs to be cut at 2x the rate for 5 minutes. Reduces experience to 75% of usual. Green Thumb Potion (E: 100) Herb and fruit tree yields increase by 20% for 15 minutes. Minor Wellness Potion (E: 50) All stats increased by one for 5 minutes. Berserk Potion (M: 100) All skilling rates increased by 2x. After 10 minutes, player falls into a 5 minute coma, skilling rates @ 0.5x. Light Potion (M: 100) Removes need for lanterns for 24 hours. To make this an effective way of training, you may do unlimited missions for the Apothecary. Having problems balancing Hard potions, any suggestions are welcome.

I no-sounded Jad, just use his visual cues. Of course, I messed up twice, but I still got the cape and that's what matters =) (the second time, after he was down to like 80 hp, I ran up and rambo dclaw specialed him. this may work for you)

Hunter bots are getting mass-banned, I was @ red chins and there was like no one there.

Get a maul.

Yeah, I am all ears. Already stated. 2m/hr isn't fantastic, but it's certainly very decent. In fact, 1-90 or so Hunter only takes 80 hours, whereas it takes, say, 1000 (conservatively) to become an elite TD slayer. Let's say it takes you 45 minutes for each quest (about correct if you average out MEP II and Doric's Quest), so that's about 180 hours right there. Extreme potions, requiring 88 herblore (I won't even count overloads, and I'll assume stew) costs at least 90M or so from Level One. Assuming an income rate of 3m/hr, this takes 30 hours to make the money for the potions and about 40-50 hours to make the potions, assuming optimal experience rates. That's 230 hours already. Then we go ahead and get maxed melee (200 hours from 1-99 Attack, Strength, Defence each), and maxed range (cannon/chinning, so only about 60 hours). 230 + 600 + 60 = 890. But wait, there's more. You also want full void, which is about 100 points an hour, so another 11 hours spent getting that full set. In addition, you need your own set of Dragon Claws, so 11 hours on that (assuming income again, of 3m/hr). We're now up to 912 hours. Then, you need to get a unicorn. (not steel titan) I'll assume that you maxed melee on wfiends or something so you have all the crimson charms you need. It's still another 40 or so hours at least to make all the pouches. 952 hours, plus then the roughly 184M you need to make for turmoil, which is another 90-100 hours. That's 1050 hours. If you play extremely well and do the quests very fast, 1000 hours might be within reason.

If you insist on playing the game in a [developmentally delayed]ed way, then you deserve to be saddled with the penalties :thumbdown:

By the way, the best way of making money in the game is merchanting, which doesn't really involve combat at all.

Farming herbs, picking trees, making (unf) pots, Puro-Puro if you have a decent amount of luck, making summoning scrolls (doesn't directly involve combat).

It's certainly possible to make decent money through skilling. Maybe not the 4-5m/hr that boss hunting can give, but you can definitely make like 2m/hr, which isn't exactly hurting yourself. Honestly, if anything, RS needs a new boss.

Tbh, despite my 100m xp gained largely in the past year, I've maintained a life. It's more of not sleeping.

I have full melee void and would be doing these in the Chaos Tunnels. Anyone have a good estimate on the cash I would be making?

yarly bro, these poor nubs dont know the ultimate power of 3a mage hat

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