don't think ags can hit 84 :/ (remember slayer helm does NOT effect special attacks) I'm 100% sure it does, i've hit 75 with spec, 53 without. All on slayer, and why wouldn't it affect specials? >.< to Metoo1000, I can find a picture of an hp bar ~ that and a damage splat of 84, could you make it then? :) EDIT: I have to go cut the grass, don't think I left lol :) could give it a shot also need a hp bar that is low EDIT: kinda preview Wow, it looks great! :) Got em, I know their not the best quality, but they'll work? \ Thanks again<3 :D [/hide] what do u think? http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff317/metoo1000/Signature1.png I could utilize a lot of effects if you saved your screenshot as a .png; .jpg is horrible for media.