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Thanks : Forgot [TWR] In the topic name so fixed that :wall: Todays just not my day haha :P

Link to the declaration: viewtopic.php?f=216&t=803249 Winning clan (both name + initials): Impact ( Imps ) Winning clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=piht Losing clan (both name + initials): Final Ko ( [bleep] ) Losing clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=final_ko Starting/ending ops of both clans (screenshot is valid proof): We pulled 23 members and Final Ko pulled 11 and we slowly droped down to 11. After the timer ended they had a dc and we felt we already dropped way to many. We started our pile with popple pure , who tanked really well :thumbup: Not sure who the piled first but they had a good pile on him/her. Starting: Ending: Random Pics: We were hopping you would pull atleast 15 since we've been getting good pulls lately and don't wish to drop half our peps who showed up, but nonethelss the war was still enjoyable. Ty for the war and hopefully we can war again in the future.

Then let's start a campaign :lol: Get a topic going with suggestions to add on to it and post it on bunch of fan sites for support and hopefulyl some one from jagex would like the idea? One problem might be RWT since it'd be controled who can enter or not but if the same rules applied I geuss it'd just be more of a safe way to 26k/76k trick but a really long walk out but it would be intresting to see them do something like this :P

thats why there is a big Warning Sign you get before you enter wildy. Safe is Cw : you make your own rules there mate +1 to what he said lol. But they should implement a portal deep at gdz where clans can challenge each other and it takes them the the war zone, possibly even create your own war battle fields would be cool as well :lol: . It'd be like world 141 but for dangerous pkri fights where you will stilll have the effect of returning taking time and this could also prevent cheating in rules or like the article saying who really won in a time capped war. This would prevent wars from being crashed and almost promote more clan activity in the wild and possibly catch the eyes of new people to keep the clan world alive \

Great pull by tDD, still a decent pull for out of time zone Ill better luck next time :

Triforce is such a good clan :thumbsup: Gratz on your win and keep up the good work :thumbup:

:lol: The bulls and Knicks were also in the same leauge - Such as TWR is it's own leauge with it's own rules. and many teams are in the TWR so how does that effect them. My point is theres most likely going to be a problem no matter what we do and we should allow in declarations to work something out and keep the rule how it is now - but possibly more flexibility when declaring.

I disagree, I don't look at my clan as a love relationship, I look at it as a friend relationship. Let's say i'm in two clans [ I'm not but let's just say ;) ] Mmk so I'm in two clans, I consider them friends and they are both good friends, I stay loyal to them as much as I can and show pride in my clan whenever possible. I have many people that enjoy both F2p wars and P2p wars, since I'm not member enough I run a F2p clan. I wish for my friends to be in it, so long as they wish to be loyal and help. Will I be that [bleep] friend who is like, 'Oh i hate bob, if you're friends with bob then you're not my friend anymore', No. If you can't be loyal to all of your clans then you will get swept in one or the other - Which is completly fine and most will understand the situation. If I can't have more than one friend then FML lol. If I can't stay loyal to both my clans I will have to make a descion and move on. I do agree however that mass recruiting to add people to your ml so you can win wars on TWR is wrong. I think a few friends is fine. Then again I think since TWR is more safe based it's fine allow your clan members join a PKRI clan if they wish to do so. I do not make choices for my friends nor will I force them to do something they don't want to. If anything I'd rather tell them how I feel and let them decide. It won't be easy to find a solution to 'Adding people from RSC clans' just to win some TWR wars but I think their loyalty won't prevail long enough and the clan will crash with out them.

Depends, if you enjoy pking with some friends you can't really go deep with out finding a war in place. But most clans provide fun events and a family like atmosphere which is good :thumbsup: I honnestly wish I could do nothing but do wars with my clan daily. My clan mates are fun and positive towards each other and we can make time pass by with fun instead of clicking and talking to a couple friends you can always find some one to talk with or hang out with. I personally play for my clan now and idk what'd I'd do with out clans.

I thought PKM = Parkour Masters :lol: Because one of the leaders is into that isn't he? If not then my bad Gratz on win!

I love the old school pics, GDZ looked so much different xD and ofcourse varrock fountain :P... And as always you have massive pizza parties :lol: Keep up the good work SE =D>

Nice short prep pvp war :thumbsup: Good job to both clans and hopefully no crashers next time :wall:

Glad everything went fine, looks fun too :lol: Gratz on the win!

Looked fun \ and your pizza parties always look hawt

I'm trying >.< should have more practices though we need it thanks for positive feed back :thumbup:

First time i just wanted to anti you but some stayed on you :wall: You were a good tank and slowed us down and I think that's when we slowly started having too many diff piles, We need to work on that/ get more peps on TS :lol:

Apologies have been made from both sides so it's all good no need to discuss anything about what i've posted really :thumbsup: IRC is ftw 8-)

Some people find Killing/murdering irl fun. Think it's fun for the peps getting killed? :thumbdown: But if you enjoy having fun at the expense of others then cool i geuss. But since i'm clearly not over it please come to irc and help me get over this tough time

i think u should stop before u hurt their feelings again :cry: You didn't have to retreat from your walk to bh back to us to spam w/e you wish to spam. And in middle of a war spamming organization is key can be a fairly long line, and unessisary spam IMO. Great job on your organization though was top notch :thumbup: @ thehitman I'm not crying, if you wish to continue talking about me crying please come to irc and we can talk in private if you want. Infact I'll sit there and let you do all the talking :thumbup: Sound good?

I sense extreme sarcasm in certain sections, making your apology a joke to me. You guys came back to us to spam out lvld but not out gunned and spamed organization is key, then I spamed 'We got class' Becuase we thought you were going a lil over bored, if you want I can break down our opts and tell you stories about each player? And as always experience > levels. I'll stand by that arguement forever.. Here's some history about our clan for you. We started out as a team founded and lead by Piht and Drawman01. I was recruited while playing in w141 by piht, he was enthusiastic for having me come abord which made me feel great/appriciated/worth something. I never had any intentions to become a leader. This would be my first warring f2p clan and I was very much intrested and amazed by how f2p warring worked - the teamwork the strategy just everything was intresting to me. I was currently in a P2P clan, which was built by friends of mine and was a great community of friends. We weren't great amazing or anything but we had fun :thumbsup: I lost my membership and our clan was slowly dying so i figured I could manage being in two clans [ As i couldn't go to any p2p event ] But anywayz back on topic, Imps weren't doing much either. I'm a really helpful guy because that's the type of person I am I suppose. So this was a couple weeks or something after f2p users could post on forums, so I thought he why not start a recruitment topic and get this clan active! I slowly started doing more and more for this clan and Piht said after his finals we'd try and aim for a couple wars a week :thumbup: . His finals passed and no action was taken. I stepped up to the plate and took over as main leader. I did everything I could to get us active, and I still am. [ Woot from going from like 9-15 per war to 28 today!! ] Now you're wondering why I'm rambling on about our history..well we join TWR to keep active get some fun challneges for us to obtain. We were built off our friends - Few recruits came from rs thread. We enjoyed having a community of friends to war with each other, infact most active peps in our clan are great friends :thumbup: Our intentions is not to argue, make excuses, or mass a [cabbage] load of points and be the l33t warriors of runescape and be the best clan. I decided to enter my clan into TWR because It looked like a nice small comppetitive ranking system with great support from all clnas. Infact i was amazed by the welcome you guys had when we came to sign up :thumbup: WE'RE NOT HERE FOR POINTS. NOR ARE WE BEING DRAMA QUEENS TO GAIN POINTS BACK. We lost, complaining to obtain a win? Nah, not really, enjoy the points :thumbsup: . We just want respect. And we feel it wasn't given by Downfall. Black Knights STOMPED on us, did they go around spamming 'Tips' or 'Fun Spams' [ Not so fun for us to listen too... :shame: ] No they showed true class and simply said gf and stayed for a fun round with the peps the droped Now you can go ahead and think I'm crying or complaining, maybe I am but maybe you don't realise what a great community Tip.it is and how poorly you can represent it.

You weren't alive at the end on last pile? Pretty sure you were well aware of some of the spams. If not then excuse my claims but wether leader is aware of it doesn't change the events that happened in the war. Also forgot to say Thanks for I had a good tank, thought it was a lil sloppy at times but thanks. And also forgot to mention nice mass binds that was truly the difference in this war.

Let me first start by sayign Congratz on the strong win. Let me continue with a special thanks to All Imps who showed. We needed a good pull and we got it! \ . To whom it may concern on Downfall: First off I pity the decision to drop to 25 vs 25. The original warring rules you wanted consisted of a cap of 40, thus leading me at first great! I won't have to drop anyone and Downfall won't have to drop massive amounts like they might have against other clans. [ Or us on a bad pull ] You may claim to have been out leveled, great to know :thumbup: . Being high ranked on the TWR should you back down from challenges :S? Also many of you're members don't enjoy sitting out on a war and you failed to seize this opportunity to give your members a shot to war against us. Also note that experience > Levels any day. To continue, Downfall felt necessary to criticsize us during war with spam towers, such as, 'organization is key' Oh really? I didn't know that? Just because we got split up doesn't mean we don't know how to war, nor should this be the time to give us advice. Honnestly what were your intentions of spamming that? I honnestly found most of your spams attempts to make our members feel like crap/defeated/worthless/'world 141 noobs' [ w141 noobs made me lol for many different reasons :lol: ] You we're basically trying to make our clan feel embarassed :thumbdown: . Real tough e-clan Downfall. Also spamming turn auto off next time was a bit pathetic. Once again if you wish to come help our clan get better give me tips I'm almost more than glad to stick around AFTER the war to chat with anyone, wethere you're in the clan we warred or not/ High ranked or not. :thumbup: But I highly doubt those were your intentions; To help us get better that is. After the war we Fi'd and said gf and you did the same, the only good honnor you showed this war IMO. [ You didn't even greet us :roll: ] Then as both clans went to bh bank I slowed up, as i normally do, to end with a short speech on what I think we did good on and what we need to improve on. That was fine until Downfall came back to once again tell us organization is key or something like that. When I said come talk to me after the war in a couple sentences or w/e up above I don't mean come spam us it either, talk with me and a few Imps not our whole clan with your whole clan. Your spams were like flame baits to us and we didn't appriciate them at all :thumbdown: I expect honnor and sportsmanship from the top clans and Downfall failed to impress me in these areas. I tried my best to keep my clan from flaming and almost positive that it was low/non-existent from our side, if you think otherwise let me know and action will occur. :thumbup: I'll end with a quote by someone idk but I like it so deal with it :lol:

I always thought that was given rule - No matter what. And when you added the rule No Multiclanning it meant: Only one Offical clan...and I'm sure you could try and war a clan and come up with a reasonable set of rules about multi clanning if you seriously thought it was giving one clan an advantage.

TBH the first option [ Leave it how it is ] includes the last option IMO. I've seen clans post on declarations ML Only / No Multiclanning. More flexibility in declarations between the two clans if agree to it is fine :thumbup:

You can say rm matched opts :lol: Everyone has a bad performance once in awhile and +4opts is really hard at low opt wars. [ We lost to a +2opt advantage - Hung in decent but with a 126 dc'ing gave them +3 opts advantage which is hard to compete in :c ] Hope you guys rm in the future because both clans look good :thumbsup: