Moe_Is_4210

You seem to misunderstand the fact that moderators are players first. They do not get free membership, they still pay for the game and are expected to get the same service as they *do* pay for the game. If they are discontent with something they are paying for, they are entitled to express their opinion. It would be foolish to expect moderators to not have an opinion. If so, just remove all of them. You can't tell people to not have an opinion. Crossing the line would be on terms with abusing your moderator privileges, not following appropriate procedures, not expressing something you do not like in RuneScape. We need moderators to clean up the spam and make sure the community is safe, if Jagex wants to impose this policy, get rid of all of them entirely, because it's no use. Players *fullly* understand that a green background is still a player. Unless of course, you are a new player, but that should not matter as the number of those players who browse the forums are very, very, low. I do not want a moderator team full of 'yes men' who simply follow the sheepherd that be of Jagex, and I am thankful there is a bit of a disturbance with the other team. They wouldn't demod everyone. ;) YOU have missed the point. YES, they are players first. Not once was that questioned. But, with the crowns, they become representatives of Jagex. It is IRRELEVANT whether they are paid or not, get free p2p or not, they are still bestowed with a 'representative role' in which they most enforce the rules. If they act contrary to the best interests of Jagex, you should damn well expect they lose their priviledges. Tarnishing the reputation of the company. I'll quote the KBase: 11. What is a Forum Moderator? A Forum Moderator is a champion of the forum community. Jagexs forums are incredibly busy. Our players make tens of thousands of posts every single day. Although our staff are reading and posting on the forums 24 hours a day, seven days a week, the sheer popularity of the forums means its still not possible for us to read absolutely everything that is posted, or to take immediate action on every single situation that requires it. ... This is where the Forum Moderators come in. They are players who volunteer their time to help keep the forums fun and safe. Because there are many FMods, they are able to read and respond to a lot more forum posts than our staff members alone. They bring a lot of things (good and bad) to our attention. And if immediate action is necessary and appropriate, they can take that action. In particular, potential Forum Moderators need to be able to get into a debate with other players, express their own opinions in a reasonable way, and not react in the wrong way when other people disagree. Some people seem perfectly friendly until they run into a difference of opinion, then become hostile and abusive; these players wont be picked as moderators.

You seem to misunderstand the fact that moderators are players first. They do not get free membership, they still pay for the game and are expected to get the same service as they *do* pay for the game. If they are discontent with something they are paying for, they are entitled to express their opinion. It would be foolish to expect moderators to not have an opinion. If so, just remove all of them. You can't tell people to not have an opinion. Crossing the line would be on terms with abusing your moderator privileges, not following appropriate procedures, not expressing something you do not like in RuneScape. We need moderators to clean up the spam and make sure the community is safe, if Jagex wants to impose this policy, get rid of all of them entirely, because it's no use. Players *fullly* understand that a green background is still a player. Unless of course, you are a new player, but that should not matter as the number of those players who browse the forums are very, very, low. I do not want a moderator team full of 'yes men' who simply follow the sheepherd that be of Jagex, and I am thankful there is a bit of a disturbance with the other team. They wouldn't demod everyone. ;)

It's a volunteer position - it's not like an in-game moderator role. When you post something, it stays on the forums until the thread dies. It's unlike a player mod where if you report someone, nobody sees it. So yes, it's an authoritative role. It's not a real life job, and I can assure you the people who have been recently demodded are in no way interested in the crown. It's just the fact that the moderator teams are unable to voice their concerns as much as they wish - to the extent that it applies *outside* of the RuneScape forums (ie: Youtube).

Incoming Anti Jagex material... Sadly, as much as we may disagree with an action by Jagex, it won't be changed. It's the unfortunate fact. They *own* the forums. Part of their terms and conditions states that they can at any time ban you, remove your moderator status, etc etc for any reason. It also states they *run* the forums and freedom of speech does not exist within the RuneScape forums. Call it 1984 or not, it's their forums. I hate it but we need to deal with it. It's why I usually read Tip.It as a guest sometimes, but I can't help but comment on some threads such as these. :) Mod Baker011 has said it himself - Having a green background means you are a representative of the company (It's laughable, I know), and you must be in line with what the company says. Rest assured, not many people like this policy and I am told quite a number of Forum Mods are making quite a kerfuffle over the recent events. A number of very respectable Forum Mods, too. People I never see in 'negative spotlight' towards Jagex. I can't help but quote another Forum Moderator anyway, "There is no freedom of speech when the forums are owned and operated by Jagex. They have the right to say what can and can't be said on their forums." "You really have no idea how ticked off we are. You also have no clue how much complaining over recent events we have done. The point is at any time they can take any of our statuses away. They have that right, they can even ban us its in the terms & conditions. So if they do they do. But saying that we are all hiding when you have no clue is really rather low." "You all say you have friends that were in my shoes. Then ask them if I'm not hacked off. However until the day that Jagex sees they no longer need me, I can at least be helpful until I'm not needed. Make no mistake I'm sure my days are numbered. but until then keeping the forums running smoothly is my priority." It's sad, it's disgusting. What can ya do, though? :|

Gems are on the rare drop table. ROW only affects the chances of getting items on the rare drop table. I don't see how it is misleading. It's explained quite well. I honestly don't remember seeing this on the KBase until you guys posted it. O_o And yes, it is still misleading. A lot of people still assume that it increases the chances of rare drops, when it doesn't. I'm guessing this may have been obvious for a few peeps but there were lots of theories behind the ROW regarding it increasing coin drops, charms, clues, etc etc. When he said this in game, people were shocked at the response.

"The rare drop table contains some of the more exclusive items in the game, including, but not limited to, dragon items, certain rune items, shield halves, key parts and uncut gems." __________ They didn't say it only affects monsters that drop gems. Mod Ash said that npc's that drop gems will get affected by the Ring of wealth for old dragon stuff. The KBase is still misleading and lots of people still wish to use it.

I believe they said in the knowledgebase that it would only remove nothing drops - Nothing about gems.

The Ring of Wealth is probably one of the most 'secretive' Jagex items. Until now... Mod Ash was in his CC yesterday talking to peeps for a few hours, and here's what he had to say about the Ring of Wealth: I'd post this on the RuneScape Forums but unfortunately Jagex refuses to give the forum a decent update to allow such things. :P Discuss.

No surprise my name is there lol. D: As for the second bonus XP weekend, nobody had confirmed anything. I hope that wasn't confusing!

Indeed.. I've probably spent an hour + trying to get the picture as clear as possible. No luck. :( Though if I do get lucky, I can see a bit of a buzz on Future Updates. :lol: