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Lol thats what ive been doing on my space time. Teaks with adze while alching the logs, for some reason it feels fun although I low alch so I dont have to worry about the timing as much as high alch takes longer so if im down to drop ill high alch for the mage xp then drop when it gets to full or If im doing somethin else or just wanna relax ill low alch. Easy way to keep max pace teaks almost as afk as ivy, get fm and mage xp.

Woodcutting for money is simply not worth the time. He makes more money flipping for 5 minutes a day than he'll ever make with Woodcutting. Therefore, he cuts for the fastest possible xp since money is no issue. I don't think SUOMI flips. Unless he started, or just secretly has been, and still takes donations. :P I thought teaks were fastest wc xp. But I hate woodcutting so I don't really know. Maybe pines give better Fm/Wc experience with adze then teaks do. Isn't sawmill still fastest, and fastest by far? as far as i know, ivy is around 75k xp h, teaks up to 90k with dropping and sawmill 115k max. 90k is average dropping with teaks at 99 at a slow pace 95k is more likely you can also do that with bolts its better then sawmill because of the Fm xp gained with adze as well I actually did the calculations and you save around 2 minutes per hour doing teaks with adze then magic logs and sawmill

A true way to be efficient is say cooking 1 fish per tick for example nobody could probably do that strait from 99 to 200m but if they did that at max pace for 1 hour per day then went to easier skills like prayer or Rc for example they could then relax while getting the best/better xp in those skills so when you are done with cooking you did the whole thing at 1m xp/h Of course that doesnt work most the time because whne someone shoota for a 200m usually theyll go strait for it especially if its an easier skill or something but with the SUOMI situation it would have saved him more time in the end to drop his bars couple hours a day then work on something easier that still goes at a good pace but because he wanted the ranks he went strait for it doing slower xp and ended up spending more time mining then he needed to.

It means i have to do more clicking and use the keyboard while playing, which is annoying for me, and as i wouldn't be able to play that way for very long, i'd actually get less xp, thus it's not efficient for me. You obviously don't understand efficiency. That's dumb. Obviously you dont understand efficiency completely. True if you had to get off thats less xp then then even just doing afk skilling but while your on of course its more efficient to do more xp for longer time. A true way to be efficient is say cooking 1 fish per tick for example nobody could probably do that strait from 99 to 200m but if they did that at max pace for 1 hour per day then went to easier skills like prayer or Rc for example they could then relax while getting the best/better xp in those skills so when you are done with cooking you did the whole thing at 1m xp/h

That method is outdated its better to be in re sizable and use 1 + to drop the bars in left column now this method you lose a few ticks every drop what is this 1+ method u speak of? ive been using the standard mouskey cntrl 2 5 mehods Playing in re sizable and using 1 to drop the mouse diagnal left over drop option then + double clicks so if your in re sizable and have your inventory up against the gold deposit then you can 1+ and lose practically no time dropping since you drop and re click the rock the exact same time resizebale doesnt support most drop bots and bots randomly made, in general, legit mousekeydropping seems to be quite annoying when it comes to afk skills like woodcutting or fishing as the best example, because reclicking highers your chances to get a fish according to the tickrate It sounds like you support botting in which case you are an idiot and ima report your rs name for the hell of it cause i despise botters so at least you get watched now ^_^. Once you get used to legit mousekey dropped it really isnt that bad.

That method is outdated its better to be in re sizable and use 1 + to drop the bars in left column now this method you lose a few ticks every drop what is this 1+ method u speak of? ive been using the standard mouskey cntrl 2 5 mehods Playing in re sizable and using 1 to drop the mouse diagnal left over drop option then + double clicks so if your in re sizable and have your inventory up against the gold deposit then you can 1+ and lose practically no time dropping since you drop and re click the rock the exact same time

Beast mousekey guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FKZa9CqOh4

That method is outdated its better to be in re sizable and use 1 + to drop the bars in left column now this method you lose a few ticks every drop

Anyone? :roll: It's really difficult to (accurately)assess a situation like that, to be honest, but i'll try. Assume you'll do mining with granite/gold dropping, with BA horn, getting 100k mining xp an hour. Assume you do smithing with rune 2h/platelegs at 230k smithing xp an hour(the most efficient method at high income). Assume you do magic at atoll skeles, at around 400k magic xp an hour(again, the most efficient method at high income). Now lets assume you get 60k mining xp, 52k smithing and 50k magic xp an hour, getting those amounts of xp separately would take 36+14+8 = ~58 minutes with the otherwise efficient methods, so yes, it is possible. Ofcource, for the simplicity of the calculation, i didn't consider superheating while using the horn as it would have made things somewhat more difficult(and i couldn't have been bothered). Try 75k mining 65k smithing and 63k mage I don't incorporate mousekeys into the methods. If you want to, sure, be my guest, but that's your own choice. I think 60k mining xp an hour is a reasonable estimate if you superheat the ore and bank bars(which is reasonable). The other methods i mentioned are more or less mousekeys free aswell, estimated to be somewhat lower than the real absolute max figures(which you are suggesting, otherwise, mining could be accounted for 120k an hour). Thats dumb. Mousekeys are legal and there for everybody to learn, to not take advantage so blatantly is just dumb.

Anyone? :roll: It's really difficult to (accurately)assess a situation like that, to be honest, but i'll try. Assume you'll do mining with granite/gold dropping, with BA horn, getting 100k mining xp an hour. Assume you do smithing with rune 2h/platelegs at 230k smithing xp an hour(the most efficient method at high income). Assume you do magic at atoll skeles, at around 400k magic xp an hour(again, the most efficient method at high income). Now lets assume you get 60k mining xp, 52k smithing and 50k magic xp an hour, getting those amounts of xp separately would take 36+14+8 = ~58 minutes with the otherwise efficient methods, so yes, it is possible. Ofcource, for the simplicity of the calculation, i didn't consider superheating while using the horn as it would have made things somewhat more difficult(and i couldn't have been bothered). Try 75k mining 65k smithing and 63k mage

Anyone? :roll: If you truly had an unlimited amount of money, I think smithing rune plates and mining gold in the LRC while alching the ores would be fastest, but that's just off the top of my head. I suppose you'd then barrage rock lobsters for your magic exp. You'd get magic xp from alching. But it would be very stupid to alch your ores when you can superheat them without losing time. I think he meant to ask whether Granite + smithing rune plates would be faster, which might be true, but then you lose out on magic xp. But you bank your gold ores when you superheat them, right? So if you alch them you never have to bank. I imagine it would be faster to alch them. Alching would be quite slow I'd think. The deposit box is rather close to the rocks and usually you can only just superheat all the ores before your inventory is full. Best xp is to drop the bars. Banking slows you down considerably. Simply superheat , drop , re click. Superheat spell on ore, right click gold bar before screen changes go to drop and re click the deposit. Best of course if you do it in the left column and use 1 and + to drop diagnally and re click deposit at same time much less chance of missing ticks.

double exp weekend bonus xp*

Actually since you can alch during fishing for the rest of it /slayer/ bake pie if you cant/wont do 1 per tick for the mage xp you miss out on and addy plates for smithing it is worth it if you got pro BA team on hand anytime you wanted to train mining. Of course still superheat and drop.

Thanks guys for you opinions on that ^_^

RC is 60k an hour. Agility is 100k an hour. Mining is 100k an hour, more than that if you do LRC superheat(considering the speed of the two other skills). RC is the best thing to use lamps on, no matter what. I'm fairly sure that if you aren't great at merchanting or are opposed to it it would be much more efficient to kill frost dragons/TD's for your RC xp(at around 40k xp an hour). Where are you gettin the xp/h rates? rc ZMI agility BA+ barb advanced mining BA+ granite Dropping the gold ores at 99 with 1 and + is better then granite btw and even of course with superheating

This is what I was going to post yesterday and decided not to and edited it out after I decided to go back at least for now "Stopping Rc today actually it looks like Was a hard choice I have a personal grudge against alpha trion(I would tell you what it is but im not going to turn this thread which I enjoy into a flame thread so ill leave it alone on this post) so I thought it would be fun and easy enough to steal his rc rank in the hopes he jumps off a bridge or something not to mention fors and alot of the Rc community said id never pass him either and im sitting here feeling like if I stop its like im backing out of a fight in front of the whole school especially knowing I could easily win if I do it and giving up on it making it look like I failed. So Im like I dont know what to do. However being how inefficient it is now to Rc + some other things. However yeah alot of Slayer will be done sooner then some of my other skills of course I need to get the melee Stats + Chaotic so It will be awhile shouldn't be to hard to still end up with a single digit Rc rank or at least first page which will be nice." So yeah thats what I was about to post yesterday and then deleted it and saved in my email for future use if needed. Now granted stopping Rc now would help my overall much larger goal for the future but at the same time I feel like its like a shame now for stopping it glory later thing. I dont know if the way I described the situation depicted enough my dilemma but yeah lol any thoughts? Btw langer good job with the updates keep it up On topic: Am wondering if Zarfot if he even wants to will pick up the pace for a bit and pass aasi.

Yeah ima do em both anyways might as well grab a record with it and do same time. Just some crap about respect and a few people up there and Ranks. As of course if i stopped rc ing and just used effigies and assists would lose the chance at whats pretty much guaranteed rank 4 which sucks cause Rank 3(currently 4 but larryr is gone so every1 is really 1 rank higher if there under 3) doesn't deserve it freaken 35k rc xp/h at zmi backstabbing lie ing son of a b..andos... but that's a different story lol Thanks

lol I decided to quit Rc twice today. First time speech from my buddy chevy got me back to it for a bit talk with Zarfot made me lean toward stopping then Drw speeched me back into it again lol. Dont get it twisted not letting people control me but they all brang up good points and were just persuasive with their arguments is all and the issue ive been struggling with for awhile. The plan I had was to get 99 agility/fishing/firemaking/thieving/mining/woodcutting/hunter taking around 4 months while doin some other stuff then camping black demons for 99 attk/str/def/hp/(possibly range) and "x" sum level )bork everyday adds up since ive also been doing it for awhile already + the crims from black demons) keep prayer at 71 to save the xp for prayer record camp tds for a tad using uni so not full 5m/h closer to 4 but still ( flipping has been such crap lately I need gp boost) (well not need I got some other things going but yeah) grab a semi bank filled with effigies finish up saving for prayer and herb then wanted to get 90m /day/210m week /400m month with Overloads Frost bones and Teaks with addy bolts and adze for the last few days after ovls and frostys are used up. Anyways that was the plan I was about to put into action but damn Rc drama really sucks and if I stick with Rc it holds me back for another year.... Of course the plan is alot more detailed but that was a good basic to write for it I feel.

Ill post in here tomorrow after I write something up id love to get your guys opinion on it

Edit: its really complicated on if I stop Rc or not

A rough estimate has each effigy saving 1.5 hours of skilling time, and requiring 1.5 hours of TDs to obtain. Since the skills that effigies are optimally used on give little or no profit, there is no loss of potential profit in using effigies and so the profit from TDs is obtained in zero time. From this, assuming that RC is not sped up in the future, the most time-efficient way is to keep killing TDs after 200M slayer for 200M RC. In the process one would obtain more than enough charms for 200M summoning, and about 10B profit, drastically reducing the need to merchant. This also means that buyables should not be done before slayer (in any case, slayer gives free prayer and herb xp via bonecrusher and herbicide respectively). Also, doing hunter and thieving so early would be wasting effigy xp. Hence, this would be a better order: 1.) 200m Dungeoneering (After Warped) (While Merching for Buyables) 2.) Begin Farming 3.) Slayer + Melee + Ranged + Summ Train Slayer while cannoning and pick up charms. (Effigies for RC, should gain around 50-100m RC) 4.) RC via TDs 5.) Everything else. Order does not matter except that mining/magic/smithing should be done concurrently and that agility should be done after hunter and fishing. Since you have around 80m Rc xp left to get after 200m slay its actually better to just keep assisting for the rest of your rc xp. As well as you (assuming your doing slayer the best xp/way with best tasks) actually have melee xp left after slayer is over so camping black demons for the rest of your melee xp and using the effigies you get on Rc + assisting and assisting till all other skills are 200m I couldnt imagine having any Rc xp left but if you did then zmi it since you would have 200m xp in all other skills no need to get effigies from black demons (better then tds) you could just zmi the last of it up

effigies for rc is around 120m xp total from 200m slay from openining as well as using all dragonkin lamps on it

Very insightful post /end sarcasm I don't think it will be zarfot. Even though most are rooting for him, you have to take in account most of his 200m skills are in buyables and quick skills, while others like suomi and drumgun have their 200m skills in slow and tedious skills. Zarfot doesn't play as much as them, and will probably fall behind by the end of this year I think. key word is 200m's. 200ms dont reflect all your xp take a look at his highscores plenty of other xp in all the other slow skills

Very insightful post /end sarcasm I don't think it will be zarfot. Even though most are rooting for him, you have to take in account most of his 200m skills are in buyables and quick skills, while others like suomi and drumgun have their 200m skills in slow and tedious skills. Zarfot doesn't play as much as them, and will probably fall behind by the end of this year I think. Not that i want one or another to be first, but the natural course of skill its that they become easier and faster, so i do think doing the slow ones now may be kinda of a waste of time. Because imagine that some new method of fishing apears that is 50% faster than the current one, Zarfot could then more easily and with less time achieve 200m on fish. I respect both of them, but i think the smart move is doing the fastest ones already first. ^This <_< was purely focused on all melee skills on first page perm, which are fully taken up by now so no one else is able to get on there. And yeah, would be pretty boring if everyone took the same road towards succes too :P That might be true, but effigies will only cover about 10-20m exp per skill? So even then he will still have a long while to go. (excluding the dragonkin lamp skill) Bots don't camp butterflies. It's because hunter is considered the most tedious skill besides rc. Butterflies are annoying to catch all the time and chins require 100% attention. This also reflects in the stats - none of the top players have high hunter exp and is even the lowest exp skill for some. Hunter is terrbily overestimated because of decent exp/h, but I believe that it will be a big problem for most of them to train to 200m. Effigies cover around 30m xp/skill and Lamps 90m so if you used lamps on a skill you open effigies with you end up with 120m xp in that skill from effigies from 200m slay.

Hes doing smith now