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yup around 39 days left give or take some

Summoning + a ton of SW zeal into strength, IIRC. He cashed in like 54m in zeal, and then had people run him steel pl8s at piscatoris for 50-200m summoning in one week. the first day he got like 30m summoning xp. Wait till I do Frost bones and overloads for weekly/monthly ^_^

That's 3 zeros too much. ;) Actually, that amount of zeros is correct :P On Topic: In terms of the first to 200m all exp, I really see Zarfot beating out everyone, purely due to how efficient and how well he can multitask. I have tried on countless occasions to do the "High Alch while Fishing" and such methods, but I just can't keep the pace for more than 20 minutes. For that, I can really admire Zarfot's skill in that matter (yes, it takes skill to keep his timing that perfect). I will probably try for this goal one day too, but am too preoccupied with finishing my 99 all, as well as 200m Slay (with attack, str, def, and hp). With going back to school soon to get my CGA, Cooking,Fletch,Wc, or Fish could be 200m'd as well. It's all about managing time effectively, rather than "Omg no life!" (Though I do wish I had the opportunity to no life lol). The assist system really does help with the 200m goals, and I'm sure every one of the top overall is doing that for RC exp as much as possible (seems to me the most efficient skill, unless I'm overlooking something?) Also, thanks from me for the weekly updates Langer. I love reading up on how the top players are doing, and also gives me insight on how I should approach this goal as well. Keep up the good work. On a side note to all lurking top overalls - Keep going! Your persistance can really inspire others to complete their daunting goals and push forward. Just an fyi, low alch while fishing is much easier Using effigies on assist on Rc is best, agility is second option but Rc is slightly better

The basic point is some1 who does the best hour days and best xp/h would be the best. Not just one or the other. If some1 plays 18h efficiently they will get more xp then the 18h non efficient player. However nobody else but drum does those kind of hours so that is why he has those records, which were well earned drum I know your reading this I just just using 18h as an example number not dissin you hope ya see im just makin a point to this dude about xp/h lol

The efficient way is only to spend them on slower skills. Because efficient players will never have money problems so the choices are obvious. AGILITY or Crafting Construction or THIEVING Cooking or FIREMAKING FISHING or Farming Fletching or WOODCUTTING Herblore or HUNTER MINING or Smithing RUNECRAFTING or Summoning And an efficient player would spend the lamp on the slower skills (normally slayer, agility, rc, though RC seems like the best if you were going for 200m in all skills) yup

First she would have to overview her methods and start being sensible about it, rather than going around yelling at other slayers not to use a cannon because she doesn't like it and it "disrupts other people". Otherwise anyone could start a brand new account right now and still beat her to 200m, if she kept doing what she has been doing so far. Before you say; no there isn't anything "impressive" about getting 200m slayer without cannoning either, it's just plain stupidity to waste hundreds of millions experience by having to go past 200m in HP/melees, while getting no ranged xp. Or worse case, start exclusively ranging it in the end and be even slower. How do you "waste" xp? I know how to waste gp. Use a cannon. I know how to waste time. Monkey with crap on the grand exchange to make money to buy the cannonballs. Waste xp? Thats a new one. Round and round we go. You just said that any idiot can accomplish anything. Even our beloved 200mil xp nutters can by "lucky idiots". Thus, nobody is good but you and everybody else is an idiot. Gotcha. :thumbup: You waste xp by not doing things that aren't necessary and that make it take extra time. Example being refusing to use a cannon and not getting the range xp as well as getting over the top melee xp when she could max them all at once instead now taking extra time Never said nobody is good but me your being stupid and putting words in my mouth now. Its simply a fact anybody can train a skill the wrong,bad way and eventually get there that doesn't mean they are good at doing the skill the best perhaps just good at doing it wrong. i would define wrong as doing a stupid method or wasting time or just simply not being good at the skill.

About 2 years ago he said that he won't merch because it's riskable and waste of xp. That clearly means he doesn't have an idea how flipping works. I doubt that he have even tried merchanting properly. And he is about 20 years old. Without merching he will have problems with a few buyables. There's 18 skills he can max without much money, and couple of cheap ones if he doesn't use the most expensive methods (fm, fletch). And with money from slayer and rc, maybe hunt if he decides to hunt grenwalls because he already has 200m agi, he can buy maybe 1 or 2 expensive skills (I'm not sure how much money slayer and ZMI grants). After those he'd possibly have over 4B xp + effigies from slayer, and no money at all. Not a good situation if you're going for 200m everything. The lack of merching will slow him down very much, which makes it possible for a player like Zarfot to pass him. We'll see in a few years... Zmi to 200m will get him 1.3-1.6b depending on runes/ess prices, although id guess hed use slayer effigies on Rc or maybe herb depending how smart he wants to be with his time if he uses all on rc thats around 120m Rc xp from 200m slayer

Seems hard to claim someone is best dungeoneer when they aren't even eligable for all the content. Dungeoneering is more complex than fishing, but that doesn't necessarily make it harder. Agility and RC are harder skills even though they simple, because of the monotony and need for near constant attention in combination with slow xp rates. Actually, what makes you good at it is that your ego makes your think your good at at. :wink: There is no right way to do anything in RS, having lots of xp, levels, and ranks is proof enough that your "good" at RS. Defiantely not true. Any idiot can train a skill for a long time and get a good rank if theres no competition really at the time. That doesnt maek you good at the skill that makes you lucky.

100m on nats would get him between 3-4b and at 15h a day still take him almost a year

If they are leeching off society its one thing, however if they won the lotto and can financially support their habit who are you to judge them? Or even if they live with their parents who are you to call them a leech? If they can support themselves or live with someone who can then i see no problem with playing 10 hours a day. 10 hours a day really isn't a huge amount. Even if you work 9-5, add 1/day for travelling and 1 for food shops, 46 hours offline a week. If you then play up until midnight and 18 hours on weekends (ignoring the possibility of playing a little before heading out), it's a total of 67.5 hours/week. Sure, it's not social but it's not leeching either. this

certainly easily possible lol maybe hard for some at first but you can get used to it its not as bad as some may think

To Drumgun, Jebrim, S U O M I, etc. I tend to sympathize with thoughts like these. There are many expectations that society places on us; most of us are indoctrinated from birth (like many religions) to develop a biased palette of expectations. We expect people to get an education, get a job (maybe even one that we like), make money, spend money, and traverse through our existence that way. It keeps the economy rolling. So when someone comes along and says, "Hey, I can survive without a job. I can consume less (or whatever) and live in a sustainable way so I won't need a job and can consequently use that time to do things that I actually want to do," it kind of makes sense why it's frowned upon, not even mentioning that what they want to do is changing a bunch of 1's and 0's on a computer server. In my opinion, if you can do what you want to do without having a job or being a leech to society/other people, then great. That's admirable in my book. And as far as changing a bunch of 1's and 0's on a computer server, isn't that all we are doing in real life anyways? It seems bleak, but the facts are that in a few hundred years almost all of our lives won't really matter anyways, and in the span of thousands, millions, or perhaps even billions of years, I would wager that what we do with our lives is of any importance, unless you of course believe in a fairy tale where we will all be with "our creator" worshiping him for eternity and somehow be happy, but what we do in this life determines our afterlife with that or cooking marshmallows (hmg marshmallows!) deep in the earth's crust for eternity (which helps explain why so many people can believe in fairy tales like that). I digress... Anyways, props to you guys in a way for trying an alternative lifestyle that few are brave enough to do/risk. Although 10+ years of planned things does seem a bit too ambitious and being really open and looking for acceptence and support is a bit too much, for my taste anyways (not that all of you are though). Also, this kind of addresses feelings I had during earlier posts, but I tend to admire and strive to be someone who averages 6 hours a day, but plays so efficiently (efficient skill order, money making techniques, good multiskilling) that they get 10+ hours/day (quasi-arbitrary number) worth of experience rather than someone who plays 19.5 hours a day but get 14 hours/day worth of experience, or whatever. Sure it's amazing that you can sit in front and move pixils around for 19.5 hours a day, but that certainly fails to me my criterium of a top player when you waste so much XP by not training skills efficiently and in poor orders. Sure that's the way you've elected to play, but it's not efficient and not the smartest competitive gameplay option. "Hai my naym is jojoe and I'm going to get 200m slay by skipping all tasks but rats and training with a bronze dagger. I'm going to train for 24.001 hours a day to prove I'm the best." Now argue damnit. Nice contradiction in there. The people who play efficiently aren't doing anything useful/productive at the same time (besides playing rs, I mean). Only a biased mind could state that, because 14h still owns 10h. And if you're really okay with/admire people able to survive using alternative methods while playing 10h+ a day bla bla bla, then it shouldn't matter to you either in which manner a person achieves their things. But ok, I'll play along... http://runetracker.org/records Please tell me where your oh so efficient players feature on there. Not at the #1 spot, I can tell ya that much lol (Suomi = exception). Anyone could get lucky with Runescape (returning to rs after 5 years with 100 phats from back then in your bank for example), and easily get #1 - doing all of the easiest and buyable skills, merching with the money that got handed to them while not spending that much time on the game, obviously. Anyone could play efficiently for awhile per day too. What defines a true #1 is the manner in which they achieve things (consistency and as many hours a day possible). Maybe you should try 18h for a month straight for starters and see how commonly and low-level it apperentaly is according to you. Trust me, you'll be running back to your much easier 6h efficient playtime a day in no time. Lastly, it's not up to you to determine people's goals. My goal was to get #1 summon and get god-tier exp records, not to go for all 200m skills. Training the way I did was the only way to achieve it, because I came from way behind, had to start from scratch, and haven't had a single favour that aided me towards this goal. The way I achieved THIS was done in the most efficient way, so your last line about the bronze dagger thing doesn't make any sense whatsoever either. Anyway, just quoting you for a sec. ''We expect people to get an education, get a job (maybe even one that we like), make money, spend money, and traverse through our existence that way. It keeps the economy rolling.'' You're just one of those 'We's', because you use the #1 overall and first to all skills 200m as your base for being the best like most people do, while that is not the only path to choose from to become the best. Thank you for your post. True but I think the general refferal was to beating the game. The basics of which would be 200m xp in all stats. True you can beat it in your own sense and achieve goals but you wouldnt truly beat the game till 200m xp in all stats. Your goal in Halo 3 could be play 5 levels on legendary without dying, well you accomplished your goal and did great but the overalld irection of this basic conversation is at beating the game/200m xp in all skills

The most efficient way would be to alc logs while woodcutting and smith addy plates for smithing. Is that what easier really means? Let's review. Is fishing harder than dungeoneering? No because dungeoneering is a LOT more complex and more difficult to master. Is fishing slower than dungeoneering, yes. Are skillers getting easier? No. Are skillers getting faster? Yes. And furthermore, does 120 mean someone has "mastered" something? Of course not. You could be the best dunger at level 80 or whatever. 120 means people just spent a lot of time on it. But of course being good significantly consumes less time achieving 120, but just because someone gets 120 does not imply they've "mastered" it. Of course practice makes perfect but does not imply perfection. ADDED: The same ethics don't have to be universal. Well I can't deny that. But I hate people who bring that bit up so I am going to come to your house and gf you for 991lp because I don't see it as unethical. GF. To jojoe: Definitely true specifically someone like current rank 4 Rc still gets 35k /xph at zmi some people just get high levels and ranks becaus eof either lack of competition or training it for really long time. My personal favorite quote is any idiot can train a skill and get lots of xp but doing it right is what makes you good at it

To Drumgun, Jebrim, S U O M I, etc. I tend to sympathize with thoughts like these. There are many expectations that society places on us; most of us are indoctrinated from birth (like many religions) to develop a biased palette of expectations. We expect people to get an education, get a job (maybe even one that we like), make money, spend money, and traverse through our existence that way. It keeps the economy rolling. So when someone comes along and says, "Hey, I can survive without a job. I can consume less (or whatever) and live in a sustainable way so I won't need a job and can consequently use that time to do things that I actually want to do," it kind of makes sense why it's frowned upon, not even mentioning that what they want to do is changing a bunch of 1's and 0's on a computer server. In my opinion, if you can do what you want to do without having a job or being a leech to society/other people, then great. That's admirable in my book. And as far as changing a bunch of 1's and 0's on a computer server, isn't that all we are doing in real life anyways? It seems bleak, but the facts are that in a few hundred years almost all of our lives won't really matter anyways, and in the span of thousands, millions, or perhaps even billions of years, I would wager that what we do with our lives is of any importance, unless you of course believe in a fairy tale where we will all be with "our creator" worshiping him for eternity and somehow be happy, but what we do in this life determines our afterlife with that or cooking marshmallows (hmg marshmallows!) deep in the earth's crust for eternity (which helps explain why so many people can believe in fairy tales like that). I digress... Anyways, props to you guys in a way for trying an alternative lifestyle that few are brave enough to do/risk. Although 10+ years of planned things does seem a bit too ambitious and being really open and looking for acceptence and support is a bit too much, for my taste anyways (not that all of you are though). Also, this kind of addresses feelings I had during earlier posts, but I tend to admire and strive to be someone who averages 6 hours a day, but plays so efficiently (efficient skill order, money making techniques, good multiskilling) that they get 10+ hours/day (quasi-arbitrary number) worth of experience rather than someone who plays 19.5 hours a day but get 14 hours/day worth of experience, or whatever. Sure it's amazing that you can sit in front and move pixils around for 19.5 hours a day, but that certainly fails to me my criterium of a top player when you waste so much XP by not training skills efficiently and in poor orders. Sure that's the way you've elected to play, but it's not efficient and not the smartest competitive gameplay option. "Hai my naym is jojoe and I'm going to get 200m slay by skipping all tasks but rats and training with a bronze dagger. I'm going to train for 24.001 hours a day to prove I'm the best." Now argue damnit. couldn't say that better if I tried oh ya hi jojo ^_^

Odin and many others got the temp ban, its only 3 days so 2 now actually

totaly worth it

True thats if you want in the next decade if everybody close to the top gives up but you you can have a semi-unlimited time frame

Except I don't have any plans to 'nolife' for 10+ years or something XD (and no the 17h thing wouldn't be perm either :P) Anyway hi Jeb! Party on this thread now ahaha. All I can say is that people who do extreme things have the odds stacked against them. Because there's shallow people (judgmental related usually), ignorant people, jealous people, trolls (hate on everything/one that stands out), fanboys (rivalry involved) etc etc etc. Combine all of those people, and that's a huge part of the world population already. And the fun part is; most of these characteristics don't allow their mind to be swayed, aka, you cannot show/convince those people to think otherwise. Should you frown upon this response, then yeah, you're one of the above mentioned people lol (though I probably missed a few). Being curious about how a person does something that you cannot comprehend with is the way to go. Ask that person about it, actually listen to what he/she says about it, and make up an objective (so none of the above mentioned characteristics) conclusion based on that. this

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Yup, the thing I like about rs assuming and hoping its still here which I see no reason it couldn't be is you never really have to "stop" Say even if suomi or Me or anyone else was really close in like 7 years just as a figurative number and he decided hes going to start no lifing work and become a millionaire. ( just using a random example to prove a point) he could still play for even 1 hour a day everyday and eventually get it and if everybody else gave up hed still be the first person to do it and that goes for everybody. Even if somebody wanted to stop no lifing doesn't mean they stop there goal or progress toward it completely

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not being efficient is to waste time

what people make up in some areas, they lack in others. By this I mean poor social skills and lack of friends etc, so they escape in runescape. It's ironic I say this because I am one of those people. I threw away a large portion of my child hood to play rs/rs2 and it has had 100 negative effects on my life than it has had 1 positive effect. Someone may read "200M exp in all skills" while I read "nothing but runescape for years". It may seem exciting at first to think someone will eventually achieve this difficult goal, but if you think of it from outside the runescape box, it's essentially a goal of someone who has decided to sacrifice a large portion of their life towards something with zero reward. Plain and simple, it's not a healthy life style to want to live, physically or mentally, or socially. And I know I'm in no position to tell a person how to live their life, but I can't help but think what is going to go through these peoples minds when runescape comes to and end. It's human nature to want to be recognized for something, and we're encouraging these people to be the first to this and have the most of that, but it comes with great sacrifice to these peoples lives. Playing Rs for 18 hours a day or training agility for 140 hours a week is detrimental. I have pretty much lost all my real life friends because when they were out partying etc during the weekends, I'd make up lies just so I could sit at home and play rs, and eventually they stopped asking me to hang out with them etc etc. /end rant why live life if your not doing what you enjoy most

we just like playing rs some enjoy competition and others just enjoy the game and want to train

Suomi is doing dung next