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Time calc update: Position - Name - Hours left to 200m all 1. Suomi - 4332 2. Jake - 7654 3. Dapledo - 8983 4. Kingduffy - 9165 5. Elvis - 9089 6. Skiller 703 - 9348 7. Drumgun - 9358 8. Klonki - 9508 9. Jdelacroix - 9769 10. Elias - 9877 11. Dragonseance - 10396 12. Telmomarques - 10511 13. Pope712 - 10696 14. Green098 - 10918 15. Athymy - 10925 16. Simon - 11377 17. Number1 Boss - 11490 18. Carcass - 12122 19. Almostlost - 12346 20. Paperbag - 12427 21. Desupty - 13891 If I forgot to add someone, please just post and I will edit.

*yay* Welcome back :D I could calc it very quickly but it depends on how many watermelon and fellstalk runs he will do per day.

Happy new gaming year for everyone :)

Effigy each 63.3mins Effigy each 47.5mins @offquote: Would you mind telling me what drops do you usually get per trip or try to make a drop rate? Also can you tell me how many spells/hr and other supplys in both cases? Thanks in advance.

Ye that's what I want to know. Well seeds are still a good chunck of money and Gano's do drop them quite alot. You can easily make your supplies back just with seeds. So everything else is profit :). Thanks.

Ye that's what I want to know.

Ganodermics will profit and provide effigies at a rate near equal to that of crawlers, but you won't get much (or indeed any, unless you use an iron titan) melee xp. Is there any Ganodermic guide? Also, you sure it's still profitable? What do they drop?

That's suprising. According to my experience, duo helps if your mates are good. Correct equipment: -sceptre (2 in case you forget to repair), -glory to telleport (no need if you are going to use row) -row (it helps ibis (doesnt help at pp), normal sceptres (you need to make more than 20m gp/hr at the worst case to not use it), and MIGHT help at sceptre of gods) - Adrdy cloak 3+ (MIGHT help) - Enchanted Excalibur Correct inventory set up: - 3 summon potion (4) - 12 bunyips - 2 prayer renwal (4) (you will need prayer if you use my route) I get around 23.5k xp/game average if soloing. Some people doesn't care about highscores. The number of that people is even higher now, due to highscores update, but I see what you mean. :shock: I didn't realize that Suomi had so few skills left under 100m.. most impressive. I would be surprised if he needs to use greens to get 200m. Suomi isn't even picking up greens because he won't need to use greens.

Let me see if I understood: 1. Join the 4 people + my self at the same time 2. Everyone together, including myself, go open doors till the last room (skipping room 7) 3. While I'm opening urns in room 7, they find the other doors. If it's this what you mean, it wouldn't work because I would reset all doors when I join PP. Also, I would get less xp/hr skipping room 7. You join at the same time, they open doors for you and wait for you to finish so your games are shorter. They'll get less exp than you. That's how people duo, trio, etc. Except the "wait for you to finish" part. People end at the same time most of times, anyway. It doesn't rise to 400k/hr lol, not even close =P It seems like rise about 10k, but it also depends how good your team is. I will make a duo pp vid to clarify you, as soon as I can.

Let me see if I understood: 1. Join the 4 people + my self at the same time 2. Everyone together, including myself, go open doors till the last room (skipping room 7) 3. While I'm opening urns in room 7, they find the other doors. If it's this what you mean, it wouldn't work because I would reset all doors when I join PP. Also, I would get less xp/hr skipping room 7.

Oh thanks. Cba to re-upload once again lol. Thanks anyway.

ur doen room 6 rong. If you want to only lose one tick opening the chest, after the first door click 1 square southwest of the chest and then search the chest. If you do it right you only lose one tick opening it. It's much better than waiting after door 2 and leaving room 6 1/2 of the time before even getting the chest. When I was pping I gave up even waiting to search room 6 chest only when it was in my direct path. I figured losing 300 xp 1/4 of the time wasn't worth the tick saved. It's a trivial difference that can only be solved if you know the exact rate of failing the room 6 chest and room 8 urns. I still think searching chest in room 2 is for [bleep]s. But it depends on how often you don't have time for every urn, which I'd imagine to be quite often with the 3 new urns (I haven't plundered since this update). Lol. Ok, thanks again. I don't know why that in room 6 didn't crossed my mind. About "room 2 is for [bleep]s", when I duo I almost always need to go to exit door (doing the chests and all urns in the two last urns), so yea i still think chest in room 2 is for cool guys. It's 4 new urns btw, not like it matters but owell just saying. Thanks Just going to delete "secound version" of room 6. Cba to record again but i'll add that to description

This isn't offtopic because we are supposed to discuss the most efficient methods to top players achieve this goal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YYNrcl-1_o Might need to pause sometimes to read, sorry about that. Some things I forgot to mention when making this vid: - Xp rate: 280k if you have Sceptre of Gods and 260k if you don't - It doesn't matters the spikes you choose in the rooms 2,4,5 and 6. - You should only open the urns in the rooms 2, 4, 5, 6 (first version) if you are sure you are going to open all urns in the two last rooms because each chest cost 1 tick. - Each time I bank I take 3 summon potion (4), 12 bunyips and 2 prayer renewal (4) - Recharge your sceptre with gold so you need less spaces avaible so less banking Feel free to ask your questions and thanks for watching. Thanks Foot for correcting this guide.

That's not the point. Zarfot/foot always lost 3 ticks in the last room (2 if you need to go to exit door). Also, they didn't do the chests in room 1 and 2. Chests in room 1 and 2 are xp with no time spent, so why wouldn't I do it... You lose a tick from searching a chest, even if it's in your direct path. Where are you getting this shit from? I would search chests in room 4, 5 and 6 if they are in my direct path, but not rooms 1-3 for such shit xp. Searching chest in room 1 is 240k xp/h if it takes 1 tick to do. Chest in room 2 is about 360k xp/h. This is assuming you don't end up losing out on a few urns in the last room. For each tick you lose, i think you have about a 1/8 chance of missing out on an urn in room 8? Also, in room 7 in the video, he missed a tick by skipping the last urn rather than the second to last. Oh, i'm reading again where I got the "shit" from... Unless someone edited it (owell), I readed wrong. Ok fixing, thanks!

That's not the point. Zarfot/foot always lost 3 ticks in the last room (2 if you need to go to exit door). Also, they didn't do the chests in room 1 and 2. Chests in room 1 and 2 are xp with no time spent, so why wouldn't I do it... I always love conversations like this. The irony is, the time spent arguing about it on forums and such, is more time than that 3 ticks will EVER account to. GG Ahah. Well I just enjoy save ticks for fun. Not really for the time saved. That was very funny anyway.

That's not the point. Zarfot/foot always lost 3 ticks in the last room (2 if you need to go to exit door). Also, they didn't do the chests in room 1 and 2. Chests in room 1 and 2 are xp with no time spent, so why wouldn't I do it...

Found more things that Zarfot/foot wasn't doing at Pyramid Plunder. I'm sure it's the fastest way possible now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4DczZvzSUY

A13d speaked with me tons of times that we was trying to get 200m in all skills. He talked all the time about how much he wanted to someone lending he money so he could buy a dicing rank. I wouldn't be suprised if he quited that goal since there isn't dicing anymore. Owell

Getting 200m Slayer now was inefficient btw. Training anything now is inefficient tbh. I agree but the most inefficient skill to train is Slayer because combat gets updated almost every month. It's a huge achievement anyway. Grats to Dragonseance.

Getting 200m Slayer now was inefficient btw.

Exactly. It wouldn't be possible if one day you didn't teach me that "1=2 3=4 5=6" when you were helping me making perfect lap at gnome course. I also have to think about this all the time because, in certain time, it's recomended to you leave room 7 and go to last room @pp (last room gives more Xp). So, I have to quickly calculate whats the best door to go at instead of randomly choose one. Sometimes the difference is just 1-2 squares so people that don't have that knowledge wouldn't be able to do it correctly (sometimes without the luck factor). Even thought I already knew it before (because we already talked about this), thanks about the post. Runescape would be a better place if all people helped each other.

Suomi asked a lot for it before free trade. "he started doing what only beginners do mostly" Yes, he started out asking for donations. "and after he showed that he's capable of going for 5b xp he started getting donations when he didn't even ask for it" But NOW he barely has any need to ask anymore. That's exactly what Meetu was saying. Oh I was just doing the summary =P

Suomi asked a lot for it before free trade.

Makaveli_93, You mentioned my name so many times and I really can't figure out why. You obviously don't know me as well as most of the posters in this thread. You actually think that you know me but thats madness owell Might be a good time to mention, if anyone care about it, one of the purposes of changing my display name was to prove I am different person than what most people think. Please ignore this if you don't care. Thanks in advance. +1 here. Otherwise I wouldn't be bothering writting this post, for example. I felt so good when I found a better (best) route than foot/zarfot at PP, for example. Not because of who they are or because of being better than another person, but because of the fun of discovering something and because of the fun that Jebrim mentioned. No, that isn't even my goal.

*Jumps* yay glad to see you back <3 missed you so much *Jumps*