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Ok Wines can be done now; I was buying jugs of water at 174gp, grapes at 468 and selling wines at 1gp. That's only a 3gp/xp loss.

But there is still a 4 hour quantity buy limit so you would need a LOT of items to keep yourself going for 4 hours. Anyone got any info on the forinithy dungeon? :D EDIT: Plenty of low levels would love to be paid 500k/hr, all they need is a decent defence level. 1 problem is that the lower levels wont know how to get to zmi. You could probably give them an ardy teletab and show them how to get there once.

He will be appalled at how easy this game is. Now that rc is half buyable. Although that might not surprise him

Jeb doesn't really care if some people don't see him as #1. He says on his thread that whether people see him as #1 or not is their choice.

I agree with most of what you said but I'm still not sure if we should use average rates instead, xe' also makes some good points. I think any proofs we make for an ideal xp rate would also work for 5-10k less. Now I know I sound like a zarfot fan but I'm not sure how he got lucky other than that he didn't have many skills at 200m before better training methods came out. I think he had prayer before frost drags and most of herb before extremes, but other than that I don't see how he got lucky.

Because no one wants to show that they are best at tha screen staring skill. I heard that Guiness world records don't accept gaming marathons because people die trying to play so much with no breaks.

Lol but without disturbing the church of Drumgun, your "statement" is no more than an opinion :) I found the problem and sent xe a message about it :)

I don't think there is a polite way of crashing I can happily say that something is wrong with xensure's proof and fishing is not a combat skill (isn't better to train killing crawlers). :thumbsup: I will now have to check if agility is. I found the mistake and sent is to him, I wont show any maths here in case I disturb the church of Drumgun

I think people see "L2" phrases as something idiots say

I doubt they would help in any of those skills except agility and fishing just because of their high xp rates, I am not entirely sure how brawlers work. And even if the gloves had a decent drop rate you would also get less useful ones like mining (can't use smith gauntlets).

Does the spreadsheet include anything about effigies from slayer? Even something about just the xp from opening, not the lamp which changes skills

Can you guys please reduce the size of the quote trees, I think a forum mod said this a few pages back. Someone made a 7 layered quote tree #-o

I don't think this thread is becoming all efficiency talk there are still lots of people posting that spreadsheet which is about who will get it first. Or is the spreadsheet too nerdy for you too? And I find that maths is more interesting when I apply it to rs, not engineering in university.

I have started making a draft of my thread in which effigies max rc, slayer and agil (will make another draft for maxing fish aswell). The player will need to spend 7287 hours at crawlers... EDIT: which is ~650 hours more than if they were to just max combat.

I second the congratulations!! Do 200M prayer, and then 200M slayer to be the master of Runescape combat. @tuggernongy, people do indeed get demotivated from hunting for items and not receiving them. This is why, after completing hundreds of clue scrolls for no great reward, people often give them up altogether, and also why many prefer skilling or merchanting for their cash, having not had any luck in getting a visage or a hilt in the past. I wonder how much prayer xp you could gain using a bonecrusher 'to 200M slayer xp. :mellow: I found this out a while ago. Using legota pro's slayer log, the tasks he has canceled and blacked and the frequency they were assigned and the number each assignment you would get 837k prayer xp :shock:

Or do some other skilling to break it up lol I sent you that proof xensure

no need to fletch there no need to cannon there maybe magic imbue but in reality youd be hoping to be trading/crafting all the time and not worry bout imbu ing But there may be a need to fletch there if too much wc xp is gotten opening effigies :ohnoes: what else is a decent skill to fletch while doing, except agility, rc, slayer, fishing? I'm also wondering arib. How far would you take the whole cave crawler thing? xensure shows that it is best for 5 non combat 200m's

Why don't you make a guide?

It would be ridiculously difficult to bring all skills together like that but I would say to start off get a money maker skill to a decent level and use a reasonably fast xp profitable way of training, train that skill and merch until you have 10mil then only merch. Get all effigy skills to 97 (agility first so you can get the most out of the circus) except for runecrafting, get that to 91 and assist for 99. By then you could have the money for most of the buyables. Get 99 herb and prayer and start slaying and opening those effigies. By the end of 99 slayer you should have the money for almost all buyables. Throughout that you should be doing the circus and farming. That is a brief guide. It is not the same at all. Methods change every few level for each skill. For 200m they are the same throughout. Firemaking is probably the skill most similar to getting 200m but with no effigies, changing logs, not always using ring of fire/flame gloves

Spending 2-3 years in a dark dank dungeon only leaving to put in merch offers, farm and a quick 1 minute banking trip getting more prayer pots/overloads would make anyone quit.

I edited my post above this one, I address this. Currently Wcing is valued somewhere around 90minutes of skilling, so you wouldn't use lamps on it just like the mining because it is over 85.5minutes of skilling. However the investigating xp does pose a small issue because it is hard to get more than two times your wcing xp in fletching. So if you get more than 100m wcing from investigating which you probably would you would have to fletch after wcing, but this could be done while running charms from the kyatt tele point to the trap door. And if that doesn't provide enough time to get 200m then you have to fletch outside of a skill, but that wouldn't "lose" any time you would just be "saving" less. That's odd, aribiterspar's vid says "Its possible to get over 700k fletching xp per hour along with almost 100k woodcutting xp and a bit of firemaking xp (mid 30ks). However, this is not entirely realistic because it is very easy to get distracted and stop fletching , only woodcutting instead. Also your left hand might get tired from hitting the keys over and over if you were to try to do this for a very long period of time without any breaks." So if it is possible to get 7 times your xp I would think 3-4 times wouldn't be *that* hard

Don't forget mining with cave crawlers. I have a concern about woodcutting and that is that you cannot fletch efficiently with any of the remaining skills so you could just end up doing broad arrows afterwards. And even if you didn't max wc at cave crawlers you would still get soo much wc xp from opening effigies, Perhaps even to the extent that you need to open effigies with fletching :blink:

From a rough calculation the costs for cannonballs only for maxing all effigy skills @ crawlers would be 26B. This method would also increase costs of smithing and since all slow xp skills are buyable total time will drop a lot so for optimal farming runs there will have to be more magic seeds, less calquats so farming cost also increases.

That would be annoying... Probably wont be that good unless they also drop effigies, or if the brawler drop rate is high, I doubt Jagex will allow a cannon there. If there was a cannon it would likely be single combat so no steel titan.

Double post