Ok, this happend to me long time ago, but is still the same: After i first time proudly entered shilo village when i have done the quest, i rememberd the gem rock, and i wanted to mine them (I was around 51 mining lvl). So i start mining, and its is going fast to get the gems, a little time after some other guy came, higher combat and mining (his mining was 68) and he mined the gems too, he clicked the rock, and i clicked it: I got the gems, and the me again, and again... Shortly: I got the gem after i hit the rock 1-2 time with the pick, and he hit it defentaly more times than me, so i asked jagex: _______________________________________________________ Hi Rene Aka Zyx, Always great to hear from a brave and noble miner! There is a high variable of luck in the world of RuneScape - the whim of the gods can be fickle! You can try to overcome this random factor by using better items - such as a rune pick - but ultimately it is this unpredictable factor that helps make RuneScape fun! If you KNEW you could always beat this Dragon and always lose to that one there would be no challenge! May fortune continue to smile on you :-) Mod Clark RuneScape Customer Support ********************************** On 5th November 2005, you sent us the following: how can it be that when i am mining at the shilo gems rock (by the way, cool rock :D) i am lvl 52 mining, but im still getting the gems faster than a lvl 71 and 68, and its like everytime I font know about the lvl 71, but the lvl 68 was wearing a glory ammulet, I was too was i just lucky as hell, or is it getting harder the higher lvl you get? ********************************** _______________________________________________________ Does anyone have the same way as me, that you are really lucky at some points? like you can wc some trees really fast or something like that