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Does anyone see a difference?

For the love of.... Does anyone, apart from Retech, think that Japan can annex Singapore based on the evidence hitherto provided. I don't so thats 1.

Can we get a group vote on this....First to 4 wins.

So...Your justification for annexing Singapore is that Singapore attacked Malyasia because you told it to....Right....

....Retech, you are not annexing Singapore on account of Rocco taking over a country...It is just stupid... and petty. Singapore could buy the water itself for the love of God!!! (I just did what Mather told me... <_< )

Switzerland accepts the lowering tarrifs, and gives Romanian goods preferance where applicable with a 10% subsidy.

The Concert of Europe was disallowed. Singapore needs fresh water... Fine Switzerland buys however much is required from Canada and then sends tankers to Singapore, which it then sells at a rate lower than Malysia had provided. There, your whole plan falls apart.

Sigh. No. It takes five years, at least, to annex a neighbouring power...and declaring that you have some economic monopoly on Fresh Water....for a country that has a thriving bussiness center is a stupid statement to make....Hell Switzerland would supply the water if so required! You control 1 country, otherwise I would just claim France and Britian and screw the EU like that. So stop messing around and try to play the game by the convetions layed down.

justification for acts of war.... Sigh....Then you didn't gain any territory did you....because you can't control other countries. So your post doesn't work

Retech you invaded a country without Casus belli. You are...or should be...subjected to embargos.

Thats why I forgive dusty so readily...He plays the game well.

Seriously? Has anyone been to Australia...they are not exactly a warlike people... More likely to send Crocodile Dundee and the Ghost of Steve Irwin into a war than they are to do much else. Ross, if you want to do it then I think it should be over a course of a few years(I am not the moderator...which I have to say in every post lest people think I was)

Ross, Australians probably won't want national service forced on them...and it would cost a bomb....and be highly ineffective, since only a small number of them could ever be sent to war anyway.

The Swiss Guard offer to look into the recent murder spate.

In Swiss News: Ambrose Cabagius has been elected the new President of the Confederation. This is in accordance with Switzerland's normal system of government, however the change will probably be permenant, due to me not updating it. King Archi remains King for the interim, though the arrangement has been extended until neutrality and security has been re-guarenteed. Archi has refused 'the ability to declare war' in front of the Council of States, instead saying that only the people can decide to start a war, he will only act in self defence, after an invasion has been started. Mather, group moderation on the issue. I vote No Colonising more than half a mile above ground.

Yay! Someone else who likes proper game play, rather than screaming. :thumbsup:

I would guess it is(off-limits)...If its not then I would be rather annoyed because colonising the moon would have been much easier than economic war on the EU. <_<

(this is not me being hawkish, I have literally just logged on) In fairness it was only 2k words, 522 of which were directly quoted. =P...But yeah, if I feel strongly. Human rights deal- Who's reason? (Before I start offending people these are not my beliefs, they are a mix of facts and Nazi Opinion) Jews were not hated just because they were Jews...They were hated because something like 75% of the top 10% of jobs were controlled by Jews. Alot of Bolsheviks were Jews and Jews were very much commited to helping each other out, in a similar way to how masons help each other out. Jews also never 'died' when the nation they were 'infesting' died(Can't think of any examples but its what the Nazis believed). Further the Jews didn't have a homeland, having been driven out each time by the 'rightful' owners of whatever nation...So the Nazis were simply continuing the historical trend....Which had been very harsh to the Jews before now, you only need to look at Imperial Russia's responce to them, as well as most Europeans' responces...The Nazis were only killing Jews because the other nations would no longer accept them (Should we apologise for this?) and they were fighting a war in which they could barely afford to feed the Ayrans, why would then try to feed the Jews when they were going to die out(from sterlisations) after the war anyway...The Jews stabbed Germany in the back in World War 1(No idea where that came from but it was cited as a reason). Jews killed Christ. Jews didn't try intergrate...in the same way that Gypsies and Homosexuals didn't. The latter of which had been percecuted, beaten and killed for the best part of a millenia....The former being moved along, beaten up and raped for a similar length of time. The Nazis, from their point of view, were acting reasonably...It was, from their perspective, fair. As for us given them fair trials and human treatment...We blew up as many of their monuments as we could, we shot their leaders, marched around their cities and then split their country with the aim of turning it into a 19th century story book country with green grass and no factories ever.(course that went out the window in the cold war but the principle remains...we were willing to sell the entire country into agriculture indefinately.) The allies and soviets also engaged in the age old practice of raping as many of their men, women and children as possible...so its not like we were particuarly fair...Fairer, but not fair. Yes, I agree we didn't beat the hell out of them, we didn't torture them in any significant way(outside of the raping and pillaging and such)...But those arn't the only ways of hurting people...Take Rudolf Hess...Barely even related to the Holocaust, yet was imprisoned indefinately because he was a Nazi...that is not fair(Makes a lot of sense though, he could become the next Hitler, given time... The point remains, the only reason he was imprisoned was because he was a Nazi, not because of War Crimes or any other reason). The way to a better future was set out by Booker T. Washington... Work together and butt out of people's personal lives. It doesn't matter how I live my life as long as I leave your life alone, or better yet, we talk about our lives, in active discussion so that we can understand each other's point of view...I don't have to agree with it to understand it and you don't have to agree to my views to understand them. But such discussion should be natural, not forced... You might not want to talk about your life, but why is that? Typically people are either ashamed of themselves and think they are going to be ridiculed if they talk about their lives(As many other Homosexuals seem to be <_< ) or they don't understand their beliefs themself. Its a shame and can only be changed one person at a time.

Retech just remember that if you don't declare war you are commiting crimes against humanity. Further there should be economic consequences, such as trade embargos. Also there would be gurrila resistance and the like...so using an entire army, an army which may have reservations about attacking a fellow nation...as may your people in Japan. Further mobilisating 52 million people would irrevocably cause stavation and the end to the Japanese way of life. Not to mention causing wide spread unrest by ripping 52 million people out of their jobs. Also giving them all guns and armour would be difficult. Even with the military-industry complex America had trouble supplying its troops in Iraq with body armour. I am not trying to moderate, but your actions are extremely unrealistic and I believe that they should be stopped before they wreck the game. (Sorry for the somber tone, have just being recounting the suffering of mankind and and feeling rather dejected.)

I don't think I said what the Nazis did was ok. I think I said we shouldn't brainwash people into thinking they are monsters. Which is rather different. My point was that the Nazis thought the Jews(and others) were 'Wrong' and needed to be punished. We think the Nazis were 'Wrong' and need to be punished. See the similarities there... Either we repeat their mistake and go around condeming people and then forcing them to accept our views or we say 'Look, we disagree and in time I hope you see that what you are doing now is wrong.' In the third part the same point holds true. http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/ The second sentance of article two of the Declaration of Human Rights is wrong, otherwise I agree with the concept. Article two states that Human Rights can be forced on all people, regardless of if they want them or not. You and, somtimes, I may see Human Rights are a wonderful thing, but take article 16(See the link above for the declaration). What about Polygamists? Or Homosexuals...Where are their human rights? Or Article 18? What about Extremists or Satanists, or Pagans? What about people who do not believe in money? Article 19, what about Racism and Sexism, or even freer issues like obsenities? Article 20, what about Nazis or Communists or people who believe 9/11 was a good thing? 21, What about prisoners, lunatics and immigrants. My point is that Human Rights are not universally accepted by the people who created them, let alone other countries. We cannot....should not.... go around declaring nations to be an affront to human rights when they are only doing what we do - protecting their cultural beliefs and national institutions in a manner which they choose. You and I might see Sexism as totally beyond reproach, but considering how freely people issue forth obsenities in front of children and we do nothing to stop them, even if we don't (as I don't) swear personally, and see people who do as wrong. Feminism is a touchy subject and to be honest I am an equalist....Rather than giving Females specific rights I would prefer to give both sexes specific rights because, as a male, I see the male suffering cause by our pigheadedness and feminism. I, as a male, cannot chose to stay at home with my kids(Ok I am 19 and don't have kids but principly) because the standard of living requires both parents to work. I, as a male, cannot speak my mind without being condemned as a chauvenist(When I am not, I am an equalist...Celebrating both sexes for their differences). I, as a male, have no control over my children before they are born, should my wife/partner whatever, chose to have an abortion. I, as a male, have very little control over my children after they are born, since the state near universally sides with the female. I see very little equality in feminism, I just see a female form of chauvanism and am equally disgusted by both principles ....I don't want women to be tied to their stoves I want the right to chose to be tied to the stove if I want to. I don't want women to be seen but not heard, I want to speak my mind without fear of condemnation. I don't want women to be forced to have children, but I want equal input in the decision. I don't want women to have their children taken away from them, I want the state to see me as a human being, not a man. I don't see Human Rights and Feminism as great liberators of people, I see them as idea that people have had and are now unfairly forcing on other nations and powers, in exactly the same way Ayranism, Christanity and Chauvanism were forced on the world before them. I see the attacks in Iraq and other countries, before 9/11, as akin to the Spanish Inquisition, the Purges in the USSR or the Holocaust in Germany. I don't see ANY of these actions as right, and I would resent Human Rights and I do resent Feminism if and when they are forced on me...But in 20 years(supposing the world has become more like me) would I ask Feminists for an apology for making me suffer the deaths(hypothetical) of my children or the 15 years I missed out of the ones that were born? If I had had Human Rights forced on me would I demand one for destroying my culture, subjecting me to beatings and rapes because I said that feminism had taken away my rights? No. I would understand that the people who had done those things to me had been trying to their best for me or for humanity as a whole*. I would definately resent them for doing it and an apology might make me feel better... but to demand one? To stand in front of my torturers, to look them in the eye with a feeling of superiourity, or to beat, or berate, them until they felt inferior to me and finally apologised, not because they had learnt from their actions, but because they wanted the pain to stop....It would make me no better than them...Each time I beat or bertated them I would not be lowering them to my level, but lowering myself to theirs until we were finally on the same level. *To address Slavery consider Rudyard Kipling and his statement on India(Which was basically a slave to Britian until 1947): "The Sewage system is under the control of regional power and see what a squalid mess they have made of it. The stench of effluance is overpowering and proof that they still need Britian's hand to guide them" Actually that is from memory, the actual quotation can be found in Cornell, L. Kipling in India (London ; New York : Macmillan : 1966) pages 151-152 Kipling did not see Britian as a slave driver in India, he saw Indian people trying to be British and failing and felt that India needed Britian to take it by the hand and lead it into prosperity and out of the squalid mess which they had managed to get themselves into. I don't agree with that at all. I see Britian as forcing India to expand and grow far too fast and the Indian people could not keep up or did not want to keep up with Britain's 'guiding hand' It is equally true that some, not all - but some, slave owners saw them as raising the Black Man out of the 'mess' of Africa....Even some black people felt that this was true, Booker T. Washington for example making his Atlanta speech in 1895 said: http://www.africawithin.com/bios/booker/atlanta_compromise.htm Instead Black people fought for freedom and White people fought to keep them oppressed... They refused to work together for a common goal. The Black people didn't need to prove they were equal to White people, but if they had would not the white man accepted that they were equal? We(Well America, I am a British Person living in Britain) have had over a hundred years since that speech and still black people are treated differently to white people and still power lays with one group and not the other. True that the situation has reversed, now it is the White man who sees himself as oppressed and the Black man who sees himself beyond reproach(this is a generalisation, the opposite is also still true, but very few places in America actually have equality between the races, places where Whites and Blacks work together, side by side, and joke about their differences, rather than feel afraid to comment.) This quest humanity has embarked on, this quest to better other people forcibly, has only lead to trouble and strife, what small advances have been made have been made by co-operation, by politians 'Casting their bucket down' to draw up the waters of the Black Voter and Black Civil Rights Campaigners working with the politians for their mutual betterment. But in near every other walk of life this has not occured by any large measure. ____ We can argue endlessly whether one of us is right, and I will, it is my nature, simply because you have no experianced my life. You have not experianced the men and women who have been oppressed by the systems you and I accept so readily. I have experianced the people who have benefitted from the rights as well, but I cannot, in good conscience say that their happiness is equal to the suffering caused. Any more than the happiness of the Nazi family is equal to the Jews who were percecuted. And I accept that you have probably experianced things that I have not and that these things that I know not what are have shaped your outlook and may have shaped my outlook similarly. I don't want to offend anyone, I just see the suffering and the simiarities between one case and other and I tell people about it. It is up to them to make up their own minds as to whether or not they agree with my results. *Weak smile*

Ok. Switzerland engages in operation EFTA, which blocks the attempt to unifed Europe by creating an Elite Trading Zone with The Low Countries and Liechtenstien. Thus buying the milk lake, butter mountain, wine lake, a beef mountain and several varieties of grain mountain and other over produced essentials brought up by the EU to stablise prices and then, once the purchase is completed, flogging them far below the normal price to any EFTA member's company (The company must provide an End User Certificate saying that the goods will not be sold to the EU by any chain of paperwork.(Failure to Comply is covered by the UN and the Internation Law Courts) Thus, unless something happens, this will undermine and undercut the European Union, especially in Britian, Ireland and Portugal where the vast majority don't want to be in the EU anyway. Anyway this will probably take 2 years to come to fruition, but in the meantime the EU is not getting any closer due to this monumental screw up, and the prestigue gained for releaving the heavy tax burden from the taxpayers falls to Switzerland, to which Switzerland responds that it is just helping out thier neighbours in-need. Switzerland contines to research divum incursio apparatus and relógio. Switzerland expands research into smrt maglica and smrt likvidan. As well as nex nidor vorago. Switzerland begins widespread training with Novichok. Given that some individuals within the army oppose this idea it has been stated that it will only be used in the defence of Switzerland, and that all of the armed forces must be trained with it to prevent accidents. Also incendia sperma nidor training has become mandatory. The research at CERN has yielded results. Switzerland has produced three new prototypes "Telum PR", "Telum AC" and "Telum MB" minaturising and testing are currently underway, set to be completed by the end of 2013. The new ornamenta look highly effective. Also "Telum PFAA" is being developed, though is not going through minaturisation so will be completed in the second half of 2011 and be in full usage by the end of 2012. Minimal research is being given to the Bolter Rifle, completions times look set for the first half of 2025. Switzerland declares civil and human rights voided for foreigners(Since Switzerland left the UN I see no reason to carry on). 500 families have been held on charges of "Sedition" where as the others have been extradited after 1 week. The stories of the people who have been extradited are something akin to Nazi Death Camp surviours, though this is probably an over-exagguration, especially since some of the extraditees said it was actually very pleasant and the Swiss aplogised profusely. In any case Switzerland has allowed relatives to visit the 500 families and allowed other governments to tour the facilities, which have met with the UN and various other countries approval. In all likelyhood Switzerland will get a stern telling off from the UN on the weight of the forgieners who said it was like death camps...Who probably won't be happy and set up a number of internet sites about the horrors. Badanie zaczyna się od cinético i vývojový modyfikacja od človeki zmes nečistih kovinskih arzenidov, przy pomocy ten vreemdeling równie motywy. Jeśli ktoś ma przetłumaczony ten z sonstig sprachen wtedy masz odkrywał mój főterv. Dacă nu apoi atunci aceasta este o chyfeiriad atalnoda. Qué, no sabéis todos estos govor? Tsk tsk... I think that is everything I had last time(misclicked and deleated everything :thumbdown: ) I am conducting economic warfare for Switzerland's benefit...which has nothing to gain from a united Europe and everything to lose. In truth I only need a couple of years(10 or so, so 20 days if we are still on that system) to prepare my master plan so Switzerland's gold reserves should last long enough to either destroy the EU or to delay it long enough for my master plan to come into effect and render the threat posed by the EU negligable. The Gold Reserves, though depleted somewhat, can be rebuilt fairly easily when the master plan succeeds. The upside for people is that the EU has recieved a rather large lump of cash which it could spend...though since only Germany is currently the only member of the EU(playing) they can't. Oh the Irony. [hide=Still the most accurate map...][/hide] Recolouring your own nation to less generic colour would be pretty easy, rather than using a map that is difficult to recolour and edit when you don't conquer an entire country...or when you create a new country(if that ever happens) Currently it is akin to a 1900 european summit, dividing up Africa with straight lines, ignoring any cultural or terrain features. Mather: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga Siberia is already covered in trees. :rolleyes:

Hehe, this is almost exactly like the video....To be honest I am just waiting for a metor to blow up India and the surrounding area so Grim will quit, and then it will just be the two super powers left...

Mechas are rather pointless too.. Knocking them over pretty much renders them useles...not to mention the legs would be a seriously complex peice of engineering...Far better to just use a set of treads and a big gun...cheaper too.

Children's TV for you...

Switzerland informs Japan that Warships are rather pointless, considering the technological ramifications of the Air Craft Carrier...