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My reasons are thus: 1) It is almost impossible to construct a plot when people are ALREADY "wreaking havoc upon humanity, tearing apart everything and everyone in my way." 2) The session stopped when people got XP and wanted to buy specialisations. 3) Me rolling for EVERYTHING slows the game down. Using a system allows me to devolve some power to the players...Also it allows the players to keep some notes. I am open to actual objections...Just not 'Well, I don't like being less powerful/having my hands tied by a system'

Informative... Does anyone apart from Mather have an objection?

Artz are liberal constructs :razz: Sigh...I am procrastinating so much...Need to write this essay.

Sorry to lose you Earth. As an alternative explaination, having a tree 'drop' a limb that has been skewered on a branch, would take several hours because: A) Trees don't nominally move, even with nature magic it takes several hours to make them move the long distance it would take to drop the limb. B) The limb was skewered by the force of you falling to the ground, as such the limb was not merely 'slid' on, but more 'rammed' on, which allowed for a tighter fit, which prevented it simply 'dropping off' once the tree reached the correct angle. Anywho. I am strongly considering switching to a Dark Heresy orientated system. This would mean you had 9 stats which would be relatively static. Skills would be built on top of that. Advanced skills (most magics) wouldn't be usable from the off, whereas basic skills (Foraging and what not) would be doable at half the specific stat. Training in that skill allows you to use that skill at stat, while extra training gives you a bonus to succeed. XP would be handed out at the end of sesssions only. The conversion would probably be something along the lines of: 0.0-0.9 = 10-90 XP 1.0-4.9 = Trained 5.0-9.9 = +10 10.0-15.0 = +20 Any extra/any levels you don't want to convert to new levels you can change to XP at a rate of: 0.1 to 9 XP Each specialism you have translates as 25 XP, and everyone gains 1,250 XP to start with. People will need to choose a class. This can be as simple as 'Fire Mage' or 'Inquistor' or whatever, it is simply to give me an idea of what skills you get at discount. As well as your characteristic Advances (Stat boosts). If you have some experianced with Dark Heresy you may build your own...Though I will insist on the list making sense. If people have strong objections please post. Elsewise please roll 18 d10s (This is a good site http://www.roll-dice-online.com/ If your average is lower than 4 you may reroll all of them). You may also reroll 2 of the dice of your choice, but you must accept the second score, even if it is lower. Pair up all the dice, so you have 9 sets. Then add each of the sets together and mark down the totals. Add 20 to each of them. You may optionally change two so that you add 15 to one and 25 to another. These sets of numbers make up your general statistics, which are as follows: Weapon Skill: Melee Ballistic Skill: Ranged Strength: Strength Toughness: Toughness and Armour Agility: Agility Intelligence: Spellcasting and such Perception: Replaces High/Low rolls Willpower: Mostly used to control other things/overcome fear, ect. Fellowship: Mostly used in trading Then roll 1d10 and your current number of wounds (10 for everyone not Ross, 48 for Ross), and your Toughness Modifer (The number of 10s in it, so 50=5, 40=4, ect). This is your number of wounds. Spending XP: Characteristic Advances (stat boosts) increase the chosen stat by 5. You can take up to 4 Advances. The cost of advances changes depending on the characteristic: Break your stats into 3 sets of 3. The first set costs 100 XP for the first advance, 250 XP for the second, 500 XP for the second and 750 XP for the third. The third set costs 250 XP, 500 XP, 750 XP and 1,000 XP. The third set costs 500, 750, 1,000, 2,500. If you chose to +25 and +15 to your base stats, the final advance for the +25 is the same as the cost for the third advance, and the +15 is unchanged. Talents: You may choose from the rulebook any talent that makes a reasonable degree of sense, or, alternatively, make one up. I will then give a cost. Talents may cost different amounts for different classes/cost more at lower levels. Talents cannot increase your base characteristics, can increase your wounds by 1. Abilities such as Manavision are included as talents and costs, generically, 200 XP. (Reduced to 100 XP if you have a good reason to have it, increased to 300 XP if you have no reason to have it (Say you are an Inquistor =P) Skills: As above, use the rulebook or make them up. If your class would obviously have that skill then you can assume it would cost 100 XP. There is a lot of overlap between skills, so Search (Per) and Awareness (Per) have very similar functions. However there are differences...If you are being followed by someone Search cannot detect them, whereas Awareness can. Similarly, if you are looking for a specific piece of paper, Awareness doesn't help, while Search does. Typically skills will cost 100 XP, increased to 200 XP if you have no reason to have it. If you want to change classes/take a class out, then you can only do so at the specific junctions of the start (obviously) 1,500 XP 2,000 XP and every 1,000 XP after that. (Approximately 4 sessions) I may insist on a rational explaination for why you are taking the class out if it doesn't make much sense. Weapons are typically changed to 1d10 damage. If you have any questions please feel free to ask me here or via PM/IM.

Well the American Brand of Democracy is based on the French Brand (although it was before the French revolution) which basically holds that everything can be rewritten and an idea that is old is worse, not better, because it has lasted as long as it has. The enlarged franchise has degraded the actual usefulness of the electorate, and effectively lead to the near tyranny of the elected officals. As Bollingbroke said "Monarchy is infinately preferable to Republicanism because a Monarchy can tolerate most Republican sentiment, where as a Republic can tolerate no Monarchal sentiment"...In short Monarchy can go both ways on the slider between the Tyranny of the masses and the Tyranny of despots...while the Republic just goes towards the Tyranny of the masses... This then mutates into the tyranny of the elected officals.

/join #inn /join #Grimmfell tavern /join #Inquisitor tavern /join #Beyond tavern Starting in 50ish minutes.

The Middle East being so grateful they have threatened the West with war numerous times. Cuba is in Latin America and Mexico, the other major Latin American power, is hardly on the best of terms with the United States... Africa, we can look at Ghana for instance, or other parts of the Gold Coast, and see countries which have economies geared to supporting the West's needs, to great detriment to the country itself...We also see the World Bank and World Trade Organisation saying that this is promoting growth, where none exists...indeed their economy continues to stagnate. India, by comparison, has grown considerably more as a direct result of ignoring UN directives and Britain's interventions. So, ultimately, your arguments are hollow.

Yes...The Cubans are certainly 'Grateful' to America for exploiting them economically...so grateful infact that they chose to station nuclear missiles aimed a Florida there...

The legitimate organisation in charge of running the country opposed having the country screwed with? Hmmm, interesting, makes you wonder why we didn't have Chinese tanks rolling down the streets of Birmingham during the riots...Or why there isn't a German Aid center to take in the homeless and staving people on British streets... Of course if we look at Timor-Leste the Government did ask for help, and as a result a new Government was set up, and when that Government failed to do what the UN wanted it was called corrupt. In short: "There is a problem" "Must be the idiot natives, we better set up a government for them" "There is a problem" "Must be the idiot natives, they didn't learn from what we said, we had better intervene again" "There is a problem" "Must be the idiot natives..." Liberals are willing to blame anything except themselves when things go wrong. And no, the Russian intervention was to stop communism and get Russia back into the war, not to feed people. In India it was economic profit In Ireland it was strategic protection against the 'backdoor' of England Native America it was liberal guilt Latin America it was economic profit South America it was economic profit Cuba, Economic Profit The Middle East, Economic Profit Pakistan, Economics Cyprus, Prestige Africa, Presitge

I don't see how it isn't. It'll result in a lot less pain and death. -- Children dieing is sad, the post was made to make Leiana feel guilty for complaining about her own problems. Unless it fails....Like it did in Russia, India, Ireland, Native America, Latin America, South America, Cuba, The Middle East, Pakistan, Cyprus, Africa...You know, all those places that we tried to intervene in and it caused lots of death and pain. And Lei has the right to be concerned with her own problems more than a bunch of other people. This is why I have a problem with 'Liberals' they go around telling people how they are supposed to live their life...and as a result they turn disasters into catastrophies, and then go 'Well, if we hadn't been there it would have been considerably worse.' based on the sure-fire belief that they can't possibly be wrong...based on no evidence what so ever.

Oh right, sorry, God, I didn't know you knew what was best for other people. Clearly forcing our way of life on them is better than allowing them to develop of their own accord. No, leave them the hell alone and don't concern yourself with their plight. We, in Europe, had many millions of children die year on year and it created a contient that dominated most of the planet's surface, so why should we assume that millions of children dying in Africa is not a good thing?

And you could add onto the end: 'And even moreso if they aren't actually in poverty' I think making qualitative judgements about people's lives is debasing. For instance, if all those starving children suddenly got food, does that mean we care about them less? Really, people who go 'Oh your problems are insignicant compared to X' are the same people who created the problems 'You should do more work little slaves, there are people in other places who are bereft of our mighty wisdom.' So just leave the starving children alone, and leave other people alone.

Not really, we all have our own burdens and it is better that we are concerned about ourselves than concerned about random strangers.

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Natural Selection at work. :shock:

PM... If you are asking everyone then fine, fair enough, but you are asking Lei because you already know/highly suspect that only Lei will respond. Ergo, use PM rather than discuss it on the open thread, to which people have already voiced concerns. And while I am sure there are many ways to phrase it so as to still post the question, that is not the point, and we both know it. I mean, if there was some indepth discussion and something to actually talk about, then yes, Anime does constitute a valid topic. But there isn't, it merely comes down to 'Have you seen?' and 'I think its good/bad' which is more suited to instant message services, or private message services...or specialist forums, as Neferast has already suggested. And no, this is not 'against the rules' or whatever, this is about having semi-mature working environment, rather than a lot of people getting frustrated and insisting that the backroom needed to be closed (as happened last time). So yes, continue in your current vein at your own peril.

Well its the Three Deck, Ship of the Line, HMS Victory (Flagship of the British Fleet, Captained by Admiral Nelson, at the Battle of Trafalgar), just after it had demasted the French One Deck, Ship of the Line, Redoubtable. Anywho.

I sense a conspiracy to deny England its rightful crown of France...And JEHOSAPHAT IS THE CHIEF CONSPIRATOR! THIS DECEPTION IS A CLEAR PROVOCATION FOR RENEWED HOSTILITY!

True, but the backroom is for unserious bussiness.

The French are a worthy opponate in most of the wars they have fought...Indeed they won more wars than they lost. The main reason they lost was that they instituted a democracy in the late 18th century, and after some minor victories in Europe, got totally owned by the British and Prussians. And yeah, I would recommend a different forum for long Anime discussions, or a journal of your work, though obviously passing comments (such as the ones already made) are fine. I am sure that Nex would be happy to continue the discussion via PM.

Just because France doesn't want to carry on the war doesn't mean we will let them get away with their butchery and theft!

Well, you could say "I like Musical-Theatre" or "I like Documentaries" or "I like Webcomics" ect. Its probably not true that of the three aforementioned our hypothetical person would like ALL of them, no matter what the form, but people would regardlessly say it. Also in a more general sense "I like Fantasy" or "I like Sci-Fi" or "I like Spy-Drama", they merely denote wide groupings of shows that the person finds interesting, compared to other, similar, groupings. For instance a person will often say "I like Fantasy more than Sci-Fi" or visa versa, they might love both Star Trek and Lord of the Rings, but they have made the conscience decision/deduction that they prefer one genre over another. It is comparatively expediant to say 'I like Anime', as opposed to 'I like this show, and this show and this one, and that one, and this one, that one, this one, that one, the other one, especially this one, more especially that one, not that one, but this one yes, this one is also good' ect. The Ancien Régime started in the 15th century :grin: Death. Of. An. Innocent. You seem to forget that she was a murderous swine, savagely killing Englishmen who's only 'crime' was trying to defend themselves from France's over-ambious would be King, who stole the crown from the House of Plantagent in 1337, the so called year of 'leet.

I vow to thee, my soulmate, all earthly things above, Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love; The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test, That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best; The love that never falters, the love that pays the price, The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice. The love that never falters, the love that pays the price, The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice. And there's another lover, I've heard of long ago, Most dear to me who loves you, most great to those that know; Since I may not count your poems, nor may I see your soul; For your fortress is my faithful heart, your pride my suffering; And year by year and silently our shining bounds increased, And ours ways are ways of gentleness, and all our paths are peace. And year by year and silently our shining bounds increased, And ours ways are ways of gentleness, and all our paths are peace.

Personally, if Mather wants to imagine that he is unique, and that, for the past 3,000 years, everyone has be wrong about this fundermental truth of the Human Race, then that is fine. He can go off, with his deeply flawed understanding of love and, eventually, he will either cobble together a sembalance of the same theory that currently exists, or his theory will crash and bring untold suffering to many other people...Possibly not to him, but, if his theory propagates, then it will hit one of the many potholes that people 3,000 years ago hit and the impact will cause damage, and so force whomever hits it to learn from that mistake and, eventually, they will cobble together a sembalance of the same theory that currently exists. Its ultimately a matter of an unruly child screaming that if he doesn't brush his teeth nothing will happen, and thus it is pointless to brush his teeth. Eventually the child grows up and suffers for not listening to the wisdom that could have easily been recieved.