tewas

u right and not. technicly u have 50/50 change to get wanted drop from any monster, but odds are different. also all monsters in server have one traking, what means the more people killing, the more chances to get rare item. it was posted earlier, but it represents the idea how drops are determined: imagine dice with a lot of sides. what change that u get certain side: 50/50, but chance of getting certains side is proportional from amount of times you roled that dice. more people roling dice, more chances are that u get certain side. a lot of people complain that drop rate "gets reduced" after first few weeks of monster release, but think that those first few weeks, a lot more people are killing, therefore more times dice is roled, and you have slight better change to get what u want.

em barrows gives me quite a bit genies :)

all we need is organized group. and 100 runs won't be accurate. i would say at least 500 each and every time get same exact kill count. so that would take at least 20 people who would do runs on assigned kill count. what would be better if there would be 2-4 people assigned to do same kill count for 500 runs. sounds imposible? but from 10-40k runs we could make educated calculations if kc increases chance or not to get barrows piece of equipment. so far there is only leesters data , what is quite accurate, everyone else doens't have enoug data to do anything

to determine good drop rate we need to kill millions of same creature, with different characters, at different time of day and so on. would anyone whould do that? prolly not, because for example measuring dust devils drop rate, we should get about 200-500 chains droped, from same sever, with different people. imagine massacre :) it's simply not worth dealing with, because even if we would know exact drop rates, i doubt if everyone would get drop after killing certain amount of monsters.

well it also depends from defence lvl's. if you hit someone with low def, there is higher chance to hit 25+. a lot fo people in cws has decent def lvl, or higher monsters. best to test if to get pure pkers with 1 def lvl and test in duel arena.

barrows, if i get supplies i got train some skill, stand around bank doing herblore and looking for decent deals. then back to barrows when i need extra cmb lvl i do slayer

well saying thanks doesn't take a lot of time and effort.

oh ok now i see where u got this number :) i'm kinda unlucky on deaths in barrows :) got tons of bloods and chaos and barely deaths

not to be rude, but you did 31 run, and used 62 deaths with magic dart? i use about 75 deaths and 6 doses of pray each run. check for typo with death runes amount

nice story, too bad he's quiting, cuz we need more people like him

Finaly after so long you got it done. gratz and i won't miss this party. see you then :)

by the time you get 65 slayer u will have around 80-90ish cmb. and by the time u get chain from dust u might be 100ish cmb. just stick with the plan and you'll get it

gratz on chain for you and nice story for me.

make strength pots :)

mage training arena

isn't slayer dart don't have negative mage bonus penalty? and verac's set has one of highest pray bonuses in game + huge melee def bonus against guthans, cuz if u be wearing monk robes, prepare to do 200+ dmg to guthan :)

oh, well i don't know about that but last time i was teled to fally i had 2 ahrims in each side of the doors. well opened one doors ahrim poped up, hit 20, i imediatly jumped back thru doors and another poped up also hitting 20 and next cast 18, while i was drinking prayer. so i rather won't risk trying figure out if they hit or not at same time :)

rahk rof is worth having there is lag comes up or twins nicely shows up and hit's u. it saved my bottom rear few times. i rather have that last security device saving me 300K than wealth that has (maybe) sligh chance get item

em what u call average guy? lvl 90+ with 10M+ in bank? i wouldn't call them average. this is same setup as high level players. for average full mystic + dhides and pray works like a charm. i've been doing then in that setup and i'm lvl 80+. and use 6 pray DOSES a run.

bloodvell they hit 0's becaus ei had mage protect prayer, if u don't have prayer they will hit more than 0's :) imagine get hit 20-20-18-and hello lumby/fally

Em the twin brothers in the tunnels now hit at same time just like in multi combat zone. for those who need pic for proof :) two ahrims and both hitting me at same time, and no it's not lag, have few more if needed

i see u had nice day :) ps did u got any bf's?

I would laugh if someone unnotes 10k yew longs... phr33 longs plz :) i might could use noting spell, but nah no need to :)

people you can't draw any conclusions about luck or kc if u do small amount of trips. without 200+ trips any data has HUGE error posibility and is not reliable. and to knowledge base fan: they won't give anything that is not known for smarter players. it was designed to help people who has no clue whats going on. for those people kc reseach isn't relevant, because they don't even know whats going on.

one run with high or low kc won't clarify nothing. to get data youneed make 300+ runs with 500+ kc and then tell that kill count doesn't improve drop rate. in other hand while u do 300+ runs with high kc, other people can do much more runs with low kc, and guess what, they will have more items at the end.