18 with a rune scimmy my cabbage. I've been hit for at least 24s in pvp. Still, ranged owns. I've got 87 ranged and I'm lvl 100 cmbt, meaning I gotta fight 90 str+ pures and I must say I'm not doing bad. Ranged rips right trough them monk robes and it's 1.5 times as fast as a scimmy, meaning I can do alot of damage. Just be sure to take a r2h to KO.