jessy87

ive never noticed that, honestly. but i do not cook as often as some people do. its not really research, i asked what people thought like i said this is just maybe a way to prove it, but yeah ill ask oddfaery in a private message on here aif hes ever potted his magic and hit that, i mean just because people are interested in it so much. So... what the "Occam's blade" principle says is: "whenever you have several possible explanations for a phenomenon, the simplest is more likely to be right". Now, you have to admit that the 2nd situation is very, very complicated, which in my eyes makes it not plausible (less likely to be true). As a computer scientist who codes everyday, I can assure you that it is extremely unlikely that such an approach is implemented. There is no reason to make something that complex! I strongly believe that situation 1 is correct. As for 1a (fake examples) or 1b (slightly wrong level-based formula), I don't know. as a fellow programmer(small time) you should know any small decimal in a complex forumala can make a big difference after a long period of time, when i took my visual basic class we dealt only with calculators and such seeing how it was a first year class it was still simple, but im sure you know a decimal in the wrong place can lead to a big difference when its a complex forumla, or that even a decimal in a a very small area of the coding can make a differnece. one of my programs i wrote was a change machine it was like, for however much $ was deposited into the machine that you were to give back the smallest amount of coin change, even if it was $5+, of course thats not like designing microsoft windows operating system, but its fairly complex for someone who just started programming, and it taught me to never over look one thing. and for the idea that it IS complex, cmon runescript is the language which runescape is writen in(or so ive heard) and i believe only andrew and jagex staff are some of the few people who know the language well. so theirs obviously a possibity that it could be complex like that so i ask you? is it possible? not whether its practicle but if its simply possible this level may exist, seeing how you want to get technical about it ill keep it that simple. possible? yes or no.

well perhaps because ive seen the pics and i do not need proof anyway, this is going off topic, into a discussion about slayer dart. please try to stay ontopic, id appreciate it if any more posts about slayer dart are about people hitting 20's with it and nothing else.

frogmite ive seen your ranged exp i believe it does go over the lvl 100 marker, and from what i was told if you exceed the lvl 100 marker you now infact will not experience the so called +1 ghostly effect same goes for you wakka your over the mark, and now i do agree it is VERY strange the idea behind after passing the lvl 100 mark ull no longer hit harder then other 99er's and really, that is seriously the thing that makes this theory well for lack of a better term "wishy-washy" and i bet if their are some pics of 20's bein hit with slayer dart theirs a problem with this, i searched for it and i got 139 pages of results but ill try to narrow it down slightly next time, if you want just ask craven image or oddfaery2 to pot up and try it, im sure they have no problem proving it or disproving it, just ask kindly if you do well let me start off with some questions i can give definate answers with, 1, does this effect our game play? no, i never said that really i simply asked if you believe in it. the occams blade principle, im not familiar with, sorry your lost me and im not going to research it, however simple or complex it maybe i have no interest in it, sorry. well how it was told to me, i precieved it as more like, every strenth level has a experience marker, some where hidden in the coding, and its like whenever some small decimal, perhaps the decimal is in the 10thousandth's or millionth's. that when you advance a strength level, it places a 1 in this collumn, then when it reaches a set # in this very small decimal area, it triggers a locked # and this becomes reachable now after that. but, just to simply explain it, have YOU ever been training stength with something like a rune/dragon scimitar and suddenly when close to your strength level you start hitting +1 harder then your max hit, higher then you previously noticed, i personally believe i have before. but its been some time now since i really paid attention to my max hit. i dont have all the answers to this, i can only offer my thoughts and how i understood it from what i was told. i cant explain it to you like jagex staff could, even if they would... and yeah i dont suggest quering them about this, because i asked them something, got an auto response 12 days later.. yeah 12 days to send an automessage, its automated why the 12 day wait?

actually i believe your reffering to what i know to be considerd the "glitched" levels. the levels which people used to believe in classic 92 attack was better then 99 attack or something along those lines. reffering to them as bugged levels seems to be more descriptive of what i mentioned above. ghost level seems to imply a level which physically is not their but is more like on a spiritual level oh wow, i totally forgot to mention, after you reach the lvl 100 mark, you revert back to the origianl 99 str... because you surpassed the exp marker and it now resets, or at least this is what i was told... thats why its kee to have like 3/4th's the way to lvl 100 strength

like i said i noticed mainly when i was f2p with that rune scimmy, it was very limited with its max hits and today... wow i super pot and pray for almost everything so i dont really know my max hit, especailly not lately...ive gone from 90-98 str in about a week and hell i have no idea what my max is

now before i explain the whole idea behind the ghost level theory let me explain to you what was explained to me by an experienced scaper. simply, it was explain to me like this, levels are truly not what make you hit harder(continue to read before you make a comment) but its the experience which makes you hit harder and such. some where in the experience coding of runescape are small decimal markers which add up over levels. have you ever been close to a strenght level and then suddenly notice you hit +1 harder then you ever had before? i know i did when i was F2p with my rune scimmy beating away for hours at moss giants. it was rare and i wonder even today if i hadnt ever maxed hit or if i was so close to a lvl, it round up to that next level. well what was explained to me was about 75% exp to the next level you would start to possibly notice hitting harder, the problem is this occurs ever 3-5 str lvls(i believe its really 4) okay now that you understand the concept of how it MAY exist ill explain the what was reffered to me as the "ghosted" level. it was told to me that lvl 99 str with 3/4ths the way to the experience for the next lvl(lvl 100) you would hit +1 harder then anyone else with 99 strength, however, their is one small flaw, since its every few levels between hitting harder, ull need to be super str potted, str prayer and huge str bonus's. ill use a picture of a 99 lvl skill and the experience to get to lvl 100. im sorry if i explained this poorly, it takes some imagination to understand it. the idea is some 99 stats you could infact start seeing a new max hit, the skills that which this maybe be only possible in are, strength magic and ranged. you understand the strength lvl theory i assume, but the magic and ranged well thats different, for ranged ull need to be like 14.3mil exp in ranged and have a ranged pot + stuff like a crystal bow on accurate then perhaps your max hit went from say, 24 to 25 or 26. magic is a bit harder since the spells all have a normal max hit which u can hit whenever u get to that level EXCEPT for the mysterious slayer dart spell, which the max for that is(10 +(first # of your magic lvl)) meaning if your 99 magic and pot to 103 magic, ull hit 20's with it. heres the catch which i thought strange, and since this is all unsure, this is even more skeptical in my eyes, after you reach the experience required for lvl 100, your max reverts back to lvl 99 str. so if perhaps you were to get to like 14.1-14.3mil str exp and never EVER went past the lvl 100 mark, you might be stronger the 99 str'ers so i ask you, do you believe in ghosts? please, dont comment on this negatively. its a theory, its not actually proven to my knowledge and i would like to get some thoughts on it, if your think it IS possible

hm, sorry to hear that u died. i might give this a 2nd try, i tried last time at 102 combat, ive advanced slightly since then

thats strange that it changes, at least you can see that screen. mine comes up and disappears very quickly, it flashes every time i login this month makes uh? 8 months i think of this

wtg spamming up a thread people. i remember dragon scimmy, and desert treasure. thats about as far back as i go that and barrows.

unidentified snap dragons. very rare, i identified 4 of them :( making them rarer yet.

theirs like 2-3 worlds any givent time that have a large sum of players doing pest control. finding the most focused 1 is a challenge at times especially if u do not belong to a well represented clan which 50% join in the games. and if u do not use msn or IRC stuff...makes it a challenge yet again. relying on friends has helped me alot. oh, and world 78 blows now most of bigger worlds dont go past 1minute of game play. 130 is semi-common world for the "clan" related worlds. i suggest instead of inventing a team for your self, try to stick with the clan worlds til you organize 50 people who are dedicated to do the same routine you do 3 hours long or longer.

actually i tried to teleport in like lvl 30 wilderness with a duel ring about 3 months ago and said, cannot teleport this deep i was like ? what its 30 wildy.

didnt leesters make something like this, his $ saving guide using full torag?

well, my friends list goes down occasionally... but the ignore list is usually down to. and it is not this time. strange, perhaps condor is correct?

at this point? 1200 on str(get me lvl 99) rest = prayer i suppose id be 90 prayer then(guaranteed 125 when i max melee.) thatd be a sweet deal...but yeah if i was handed them the 8800 on prayer...if i had to work for them, probably do 3k on attack 3k on def 2k on hp

:shock: lol! :o not funny...i been in pest control for a long...long time lately. so far the tally is 1100 points on magic 100 on hp and 90-97 str(5.55mil str exp) on points and dagger specialing portals alone. and yea, how does he do that?

cheese? i mean goto kq queen with me...oh in about 1800 pest control points. chain = amazing for non breakin armor? over priced? uh, yea... the pretty red chain links are amazing, and i love the square boddied look, and it looks like a T-shirt. thats cool. really i dont like the looks of my rockshell,rune plate or guthans(especially.) for non-breaking chest armor, its the best hands down. thats all their is to it. i believe it has a -1 ranged attack or 0, so u could wear it and dhide legs and range stuff in like, castle wars or at king dags, and the -15 magic penalty is "good" if you want melee def while maging stuff like at the barrows. this all brings up better points, like verac brassard has -6 magic attack compared to the chains -15, and its relatively the same def bonus. but it doesnt break. its all about, who want to spend time repairing and $ whenever its most inconvient. hand over 20mil now for a chain? spend 20mil over the next year because u wanted to wear your torag plate while fishing or mining or cutting logs or standing some where doin nothing and an evil chicken pops up.

wow, i was going to get the box and goto pest control with it... :( but ive finished the quest. a 118 walkin around with a box doin nothing i bet that would make some1 angry

we switch it up alotttt for worlds, and try to keep it 95-100+ i try to stay in the loop alotttttt, but i cant :( its always clan related worlds and im not a fan of clans

since, like uh the day runescape was invented. since party hats were considered alot of $ in classic... well, see thats the difference with me and some people, i could stay at a spot for, i dunno...weeks? i could buy a dragon chain, but yeah bad investment...i want 1, but forkin over 20+mil for 1...nah im fine. guthans and bones to peaches combo = maybe months of sticking to 1 spot if i dont fill up on drops. so, yeah if i can goto a spot with good drops that are alchable, then yeah. i could high alch guthan and bones 2 peaches and just live their forever as long as i had nats. so at that point torag has no realistic attraction to me where as a dragon chain could be something i may get 1 day, but i doubt id pay for it, especially not like if i cut 20k magic logs... id have to get like a chain drop or like 5 berserker rings then MAYBE id shell out some of my hard earned cash to get it. torag < dchain

yea, he still has that pic im sure. 39 is max i got hit by a blue, and thats all i ever really heard my ranger friend say they been hit... i dunno if thats rite or not tho.

Hmm, lets do the math... Dragon Chain: Retail Price: 19.5m Torag Plate Body: Retail Price: 1.2m (Note: Both of these were found on the RuneScape.com forums just now) That means that you're paying an extra 18.3m to basically... have worse stats at the benefit of not having to pay for repairs? Okay okay, so there HAS to be a reason people would get this! Lets look at it. I mean, repairs seem to be so expensive, they are being portrayed as these huge payments to no one, but... wait a minute, 90k to repair a body? That isn't as much as they make it sound... okay okay, lets brake this down some more! They have to be right in that it's more expensive with the Torag Plate, don't they? 18,300,000 / 90,000 = 203.33333 repairs. So... 203.33333 * 15 (hours) = 3049.999999999995 hours of using Torag (at 90k per repair) So for that 18.3m that you aren't spending on that dragon chain, you could get 127 days worth of training with that torag plate. Wow, Torag does seem like a better option. But wait! It gets better! Thanks to the new POH Workshop, at level 55 Construction, you can cut your repair costs in half! That's right! Now you have 254 days with that armor! But wait, there's more! That's 69.6% of a year! And that's playing 24 hours a day! Wow... so again, why would you want a dragon chain? Oh yeah, because you're greedy and you want to show off your ability to scam people, great move, ya swell person. dragon chain vs torag = longevity(sp?) a drag chain just looks so much better, and it can be worn without any idea of spending $ if a swarm attacks you. i understand where u are comming from completly, but 1, torag looks ugly 2, people could melee 15 hours straight and then have to fix it...thats a waiste of leavin a spot and yeah well is their really a different in torag plate vs dragon chain? i mean honestly is that 20-30 def points going to get me killed? at 90+ def i doubt it... looking good is a part of it to. and no, the chain means nothing now really. i see people who have them who are like, omg im richer then u, im like omg im 40 combat lvls over you... spending all ur time on world 2 sure isnt how this game was meant to be played

yea, its expensive to turn logs to planks + butler...jeez he costs alot and yeah ill raise construction later my house can hold its own for now. just do oak if your strapped for cash

hm, whoops im a day early.

actually barbed bolts from the ranged guild will hit 19's with this bow around 93 ranged potted. thats not too bad.