i did use my own imagination, as for ur attempt and making the guy better the lines are too thin in my opinion. The linework is the total opposite of sloppy, not a single like is out of place. I think shading is fine. It is my style, and omg ur right it isnt realistic, its not a dam photo :shock: border is fine yet again. This is the second time low gravity has made bad comments about my sigs with no backup evidence, he just hates me for some reason :roll: Once again col avanor is the only one who's criticism has been constructive, if you want to diss me, then diss me not my work low gravity :wink: