well said brother. on topic, i took a break from runescape for 3 months. I DID NOT QUIT i took a break. i think you are absoloutely correct and also at least 20 of my good friends have been banned for these reasons(going from most popular to least popular): password scamming macroing real life item trading convincing others to break the rules all of these friends that were banned were their first offences and i seriously believe that they were 100% innocent. they were all made un-appealableimmediately and 3/4 of them "quit" permenantly. as you said, many (most) players who "quit" return. but i dont see how i could return. most of these people were 90-110+ and 1500 skill total and had no reason whatsoever to macro, pass scam, trade real life items, or any other of the rules. i think there is something wrong with Jagex' system of handling players who they "think" broke the rules. heres a quuote from a friend on aim(on another account notifying me he was perm banned): that was his aim he used for his noob acc. i havent seen him online in RS or AIM on both of his RS AIM accounts for 2 weeks now. i have had several other similar conversations with other friends but they always seem to have the same outcome. i was into WoW for a couple of months then couldnt stop thinking about how much the mining stinked and there was no woodcutting, players cant PK? not my kind of game.as for the family/job issue, i do not see how that is so... i have both a job and a family to support and i still find time to play Runescape. and c'mon now, rehab center? this is a serious thread that concerns somebody ad i think you should take it seriously as it was meant to be taken.