Das, your tackle failed. You've said things, but nothing usefull. It doesn't matter that this is as close to arthouse as some people will get (I don't even agree), it doesn't matter that it can't compete with the movies you mentioned, for the quality of this 'discussion' it doesn't matter that you've seen deeper movies, it doesn't matter if Avatar was better or worse and after that talk you say it's better than most '[cabbage]' that's pumped out, but I still don't see why. The movie isn't very impressive, visually. They make decent sets and have a understanding of how to use a computer, that's about as impressive as building a lego boat. The images don't show us anything about the story. And Nolan's action scenes are still horrible; stiff and fragmentated with no feeling for rhythm. The acting wasn't bad, but you wonder what's the use of it when all the other things are so average (especially the characters!) and don't form a 'whole' together. And the idea, well, it's not much new, and the thought of the construction of the plot still isn't impressive to me. It's lifeless, it's about as 'impressive' as solving a puzzle. Next to all that, you have to wonder: how do you rate a movie? It's not exact math where you pick three different points of the movie, give 'm a 6, 7 and 10 and take the average of that. When you watch a (good) movie every thing should fit together..to give an example: if you've got good acting and a bad characters, what's the point of the acting? Nothing, the actors do their best, but it doesn't make the characters more interesting.