Diminished2b

Air, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835185023 It's a bit hot (Not dangerously) and this weekend I'm going to reapply the heatsink with some better thermal grease, and may add a more powerful fan. I've gotten it to 3.2ghz (Unstable.. as hell). 2.9ghz seems to be the best I can get it without it being unstable. 59c load, 42c idle. The load should come down quite a bit using Artic Silver 5 thermal grease.

processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 79 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 2906.264 cache size : 512 KB fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm svm cr8_legacy bogomips : 5815.14 TLB size : 1024 4K pages clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc MemTotal: 2058988 kB MemFree: 871352 kB Buffers: 126692 kB Cached: 889628 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 560928 kB Inactive: 502692 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree: 0 kB LowTotal: 2058988 kB LowFree: 871352 kB SwapTotal: 4008208 kB SwapFree: 4008208 kB Dirty: 12 kB Writeback: 0 kB Mapped: 80256 kB Slab: 105092 kB CommitLimit: 5037700 kB Committed_AS: 141708 kB PageTables: 1360 kB VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB VmallocUsed: 37892 kB VmallocChunk: 34359695355 kB HugePages_Total: 0 HugePages_Free: 0 HugePages_Rsvd: 0 Hugepagesize: 2048 kB 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller (rev a1) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 LPC Bridge (rev a2) 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SMBus (rev a2) 00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller (rev a2) 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller (rev a1) 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:04.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 IDE (rev a1) 00:05.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:05.1 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:05.2 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:06.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0370 (rev a2) 00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2) 00:09.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2) 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0374 (rev a2) 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0374 (rev a2) 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0378 (rev a2) 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0375 (rev a2) 00:0f.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0377 (rev a2) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04) 01:01.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port (rev 04) 06:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2)

Well, all of you know the hype for Conroe. http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/04/co ... usted.html Think, if the Conroe isn't clock-per-clock as current-gen AMD's, when AMD releases their 65nm line (Rev. G of AM2, Socket F?) it will totally take the lead. Seems like a credible resource. It was made in April.

Not with the release of Conroe. Intel takes the win.

We in the U.S. have around 11,000 fully in-tact nuclear war heads. \ :shame:

It's based on the same architecture, yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSX_%27Rea ... hesizer%27

You wouldn't have to upgrade to vista to use the G80s.

Why the [bleep] do you people constantly judge things before they're even out? I can tell you WHY I think the PS3 is going to be great. Innovation The playstation 3 will be based on a PowerPC cell processor. This processor can calculate floating points (Which are more prevailant in consoles) about twice as fast as the processor in the Xbox 360, which runs at the same clock speed. It will also be running on an open-source operating system, using a modification to OpenGL ES as it's rendering system. This allows them to let users develop 'homebrew' applications and games. Etc Free online play, great gfx card, desktop usability, etc

++ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G80 Games like Crysis and whatnot will use DirectX 10. To get the full effect of these games you'll need a DirectX-10 compliant video card. If you have the patience to wait, please do so. Good suggestion. =D> /me likes OpenGL more, but meh.. DirectX is progressing pretty nicely.

1. What is your basis for better image quality and drivers? I seriously doubt that. I don't think ATI even offers transparent antialiasing. The first two reviews I saw on google about image quality said it's subjective. They both have their ups and downs. I doubt that's "miles ahead." These were also old reviews, before transparent antialiasing and many other features. I'd like to say it's still most likely subjective with no clear winner. Miles ahead. heh. 2. Intel's Duo Core affordable desktop processors are hardly better than a 4800+. The 4800+ was bottlenecking the GPU and that's why they were all the same. Anyways, ATI offers the X1900XTX for about $500 on average. Considering you can get a 7950GX2 for $560 why even get it. Why a 7950GX2 owns a 1900XTX: Dual GPU vs Single GPU 48 pipelines vs 16 pipelines, with 48 for shading 512-bit memory interface vs 256-bit memory interface 1gig of GDDR3 vs 512mb of GDDR3 etc..

I said is *A* main component. They are all within a few FPS of eachother because of the CPU bottlenecking the game, obviously. Your benchmark also said 7900GTX > 7950GX2. Unlikely. I posted it to simply show that the CPU bottlenecks the cards an almost all games to the FPS they are at.

Socket AM2 has been out since late May. AMD has better memory management IMO because the memory controller is on-die which is faster. When you buy an AMD CPU you buy an AMD CPU and a memory controller. Intel's Conroe will most likely have better clock-per-clock results, though.

That link basically makes you basically contradict yourself. The only benchmark which has drastic differences is in BF2.

Necrophagist, Demilich, Death.

There's more to it than brand and frequency.. You can't really make an accurate decision without things such as what architecture, what socket? Socket AM2? Socket LGA775? K8?..

Sorry then, just assumed it because it's not in sync with the FSB like the usual on-die ones were. Oh well. Good call then, Cruiser. By equalizes, I meant it gave about the same performance.

Trillian is insuperior in every way. Make sure you grab the 2.0 beta line, much better.

I suggest a 7950GX2. Although, you'll need a STRONG CPU to make a difference. In almost all of the benchmarks I've seen the difference between a 7800GT, 7900GT, and 7950GX2 is barely anything. This is because bottlenecking of the CPU. AMD Athlon 64 4800+ It's quite obvious, that the AMD Athlon 64 4800+ is LIMITING!! Your video card. I suggest a 7900GT. They are affordable (>$300), and will probably match your system. I don't suggest you get ATI. All of the benchmarks I've seen show the X1900 beating the 7900GT/7950GTX at mid resolutions but when you crank it up higher than nVidia starts to take the cake. My vote: A 7900GT. Why?: Why buy a $1300 card when your CPU is going to bottleneck it. There is _NO_ affordable desktop-based processor that can keep up with the newer Graphical Processing Units. ~http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130016

Why go for s939? It generally cost more than the same socket AM2. The only disadvantage is that the memory controller is not on-die, but the DDR2 memory is fast enough, it just about equalizes the RAM speed.

How much money do you have? You have AGP, PCI, or PCI Express?

FreeBSD.. It's a great operating system. The ports system has over 15,000 ports. They have thousands of binary packages. It's stable, fast, UFS2 is a kick-[wagon] filesystem. The kernel has a whole team as developers. The TCP stacks are probably better than any other OS. Many reasons.. \

I have a 250gb harddrive. I'm running up 200gb from Music/Movies/Games/General Media, etc.

How is spending the exact same amount of money for a better card a waste of money? And time? Does a GeForce take longer to ship?

I suggest an equivelant GeForce card (In price.) It'll problem perform better. My two cents. :mrgreen:

C# is slow, nasty, lame. Java will never match C++ in speed? Why, because it's interpreted. Why is it portable? Any computer that can run a Java Virtual Machine can interpret .class files which are the medial form of a Java binary file (Between Source and Binary.) This makes them slow. The only decent solution is using GCJ to compile Java straight into binaries. GCJ usually requires modification to the Java file's source code and must be on a GNU system. Why do many companies not use it? You can use a Java Decompiler such as JAD to decompile the .class files into source code. You can use a byte code editor to edit it in .class form. Even if obfuscated it's very possible to deobfuscate it and then decompile it. IBM makes an excellent JVM, don't compare Java and any decent languages like C. =D>