I've sold the following items, Whip/SS/AGS/ZGS/SGS. I have a BGS for corp (only place I use it) Dclaws are the strongest if it was a useless item then it wouldn't be the price it is, it speeds up kills... it's also good for anti-crash measures (if we have infinite spec but its still a good purchase). I also have a chaotic weapon set, at the stats and speed they are at they are by far, by a landslide the best weapons in game, they also last way more than 10 hours of combat if you have 80+ stats you'll make that 2m back via slayer in that time easily. What do chaotic weapons have a whip doesn't? a strength training option! To argue against chaotic or to justify their price I simply cannot understand the only place it wont beat you on kills is corp, even then none of the list mentioned on the first page would beat to kills there..