Sir_Squab
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RS is so laggy for me, standing at a bank chatting has me getting agravated over the lag. Of course, that was when I somehow was logged into the lobby and RS at the same time...I cbf about highscores. I care what my levels are. I think it'd be good if all skills were able to get at least 100k exp/h at higher levels tho. Tbh, I think RC should get you exp per rune CRATED, not essence used. Tbh, I the RC fix could be purely adjusting numbers. The problem with RC is there is virtually no increase in exp as you level up. I find it's actually the fastest skill to train up till, like, level 15 lol.Angry much? Really, unless Jagex made their own bots, I'm not sure how the copyright law will work, lol. As for 99s meaning something, meh. RS is a huge ass grind-fest as is. Many of them simply want the rewards without the huge ass grind. I don't blame them. In fact, looking at the amount of players playing RS now vs last week, somewhere between 33%-50% of the people online at any given time were bots. Such large numbers give the indication that there's something wrong with the game rather then a few lazy individuals. Which also brings me to my next point. By simply looking at the number of people online last week vs this week, and considering Jagex essentially gets money from people, well, playing the game, you can conclude that (at least if all these players unsubscribe and quit RS) that Jagex is losing, at a conservative estimate, 33% of their income.* Irregardless of the actual number, it should be very obvious that Jagex will take a huge economic hit if all the botters quit playing and unsubscribe. Should the game survive, is likely, unless the current grind changes players will just be motivated to start botting again. Frankly, the root of botting ultimately boils down to RS being too grindy. *I must now admit that I am getting this number by simply approximating (in my head) the percentage drop of players online now vs last week, and saying that's how much income Jagex will lose. I think I just like playing Devil's advocate or something...More often than not, it's a scam. That, and Jagex's ambiguous stance on trust games being "against the spirit of the game" maks it sound like they're trying to avoid dealing with it all together. Psh it is rarely a scam...I've been dicing for a while. I made bank and I lost it all multiple times, never been scammed. Only people that get scammed are the ones that don't take enough precaution when trading hosts, in which case they deserve to be scammed. Dicing is not against the rules either so I don't see the debate over it. This is no different than the armour trimming problems of old. Lmao. Dicing is essentially trust-trading, and you can easily get scammed if you aren't careful. That being said, you're an idiot. You're trying to tell us that dicing is mostly legitimate, isn't against the rules, then you compare it to something that almost always was an illegitimate scam and is most definitely against the rules? As for bots, I still maintain it's too early to tell. I say we need to wait at least a month before we can see how truly effective it is. That being said, if this keeps working as well as it has, RS is a game that I can finally, um... if RS comes up in conversation, and the person is semi-interested in playing it, I can, in good conscience, not feel the need to tell them not to play. My point was that both were trust trades, both had the potential for scamming, and both are technically not against the rules. If you are ignorant of the mechanics of the game, you deserve the outcome. Think that's cruel? Look at the us legal system. If you're ignorant of a law, totally have no idea that it was illegal to do something, and then you do it, game over man you face legal concequences for your ignorant act. I could've describe my analogy further for sure and I apologize that I didn't. Actually, armour trimming is against the rules. I am pretty sure it has always BEEN against the rules. Jagex has even set up warnings on the log-in menu telling you that if someone offers to trim your armour, they are trying to scam you. Trust trading is technically against the rules, although dicing in and of itself isn't explicitly against the rules. Dicing is actually a grey area tbh. I think Jagex doesn't want to actually get rid of it because some players like it or something, idk, but at the same time they can't legitimize it because RS would become a gambling house. And when you consider gambling RS gold and RWT, you run into a potentially bad scenario, considering that a large amount of the game's market is at people who can't otherwise legally gamble. ... and how does one get this in-house currency that cannot be bought? :unsure: No, you seem to have misunderstood (as usual). Gambling is dangerous in real-life because it becomes a preoccupation of the addict, to the point where they need to spend excessive amounts of their money in order to sustain the addiction at the expense of other vital needs. If someone becomes addicted to dicing on RuneScape, they'll lose all their GPs and... then what? Whether someone loses 1gp or 100 billion gp is irrelevent, each player on RuneScape can lose a maximum of £3.50 per account per calander month. Gambling on RuneScape is not as dangerous as gambing in Las Vegas is, just as the three dozen or so free-to-play poker apps on Facebook/IPhone/Blackberry/Android which use "made up" currency aren't really dangerous either, all of which are quite routinely used by under-18s. Hell, even Super Mario 64 on the DS had a spoof version of five-card poker. I'm not personally seeing the hoards of prepubescent Mario addicts you seem to be suggesting would be the inevitable consequence of said feature. In any case, I actually see this discussion as being besides the point. The fact is, Jagex doesn't need to facilitate dicing in order to essentially allow it on a de facto basis. They simply need to not stop it, even when it's clearly obvious it's taking place. You're right in saying gambling is dangerous, however I'd rather have the gambling controlled and monitored, than being left to simply run riot in the middle of the Grand Exchange. The moment you consider RWT your argument starts to fall apart. If I were to say, sell my h'ween, gamble it with a dicer or something, and win, I have acquired (going by the prices I've gotten PM'ed about gold lol) in-game currency of the approximate value of $100. Plus, the last thing you need is a "concerned parent" to pick up on RS gambling with an in-game currency that has real world money value. Idk. At the very least, it explains why Jagex won't legalize it, although I do sort of agree with you. And it isn't as dangerous as RL gambling. Back on topic, I'm really curious about what will happen. A significant amount of players not playing anymore really hurts the game financially, yet on the other hand I think the game was going into a slow and inevitable decline anyways because bots were driving away players and keeping away new players. I wonder what Jagex's bank books look like. They're still working on Stellar Dawn or whatever last I checked, and the Transformers MMO. There's also probably a relatively small amount of money coming in from funorb; yes I realize they haven't updated it in like a year (except for maintenance which is probably part of the anti-bot thing) but I think it's likely that there is a small community of paying members there which generates small revenue. Although I'm just speculating; the majority of their income is definitely RS. Which will probably take a hefty hit because of bots leaving, and trying this lawsuit will take away more money. On the other hand, from what I know they've recently purchased and moved into a new building and they own an APC for no apparent reason.More often than not, it's a scam. That, and Jagex's ambiguous stance on trust games being "against the spirit of the game" maks it sound like they're trying to avoid dealing with it all together. Psh it is rarely a scam...I've been dicing for a while. I made bank and I lost it all multiple times, never been scammed. Only people that get scammed are the ones that don't take enough precaution when trading hosts, in which case they deserve to be scammed. Dicing is not against the rules either so I don't see the debate over it. This is no different than the armour trimming problems of old. Lmao. Dicing is essentially trust-trading, and you can easily get scammed if you aren't careful. That being said, you're an idiot. You're trying to tell us that dicing is mostly legitimate, isn't against the rules, then you compare it to something that almost always was an illegitimate scam and is most definitely against the rules? As for bots, I still maintain it's too early to tell. I say we need to wait at least a month before we can see how truly effective it is. That being said, if this keeps working as well as it has, RS is a game that I can finally, um... if RS comes up in conversation, and the person is semi-interested in playing it, I can, in good conscience, not feel the need to tell them not to play.This is my step-dad's logic: I think there's something your not telling me. 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Except maybe grinding castle wars for a trimmed comp cape. Then if you do that, there's REALLY nothing left. Sure, new updates, quests, but you might as well wait for Jagex to release a new skill, THEN do all the new content and max the new skill. Let it all add up first. Of course, at that point they might have just moved on with their life already.Um, I haven't looked carefully, but doesn't each "day" last 24 hours? So as long as you get on within a 24hr period shouldn't you be fine?
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