sadukar123

Probably not, you wouldn't want to either, if you accidentally die you lose your pet.

SHUNNN@@@@@@ DO NOT WANT. :P I came on when friends said this is fun. ;_; Grade 7. Fail. Grade 112 now.

no http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing You just proved his point. No where on that page, or on Jagex's page is their an official statement about Price Manipulation in Runescape. Sorry, but merch clans are doing nothing wrong...as of now Price manipulation IS price fixing. That's like saying America is not USA It's actually cornering the market. Or this in case of stocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_and_dump

You can kill Saradomin warriors in main room if you want. Bring 1 saradomin and 1 zamorak item, then focus on max attack and strength bonuses. You won't get hurt if it's in combat with a Zamorak monster.

If your defence is over 90 I'd just tank with Guthan's and DFS. Unholy book is good for Dharok regardless though, since you must pray.

If you can afford Armadyl, I don't see why you can't use it.

Why wouldn't you use armadyl in the fight cave? Karil's offer no statistical advantage over Black d'hide, it degrades, it's magic defence is useless, since any magic attack that hits you in Fight caves, you are dead. It's melee defence is lower than black d'hide. But if your any good at fight caves, nothign should get in melee range of you, so the melee defence is also useless. However, the 90's will be ranging you, and karils has higher in that, which makes karil's a better option. And on the topic of armadyl, personally, i melee in it, i find the negative effects barely noticeable with 99 attack. You are paying 8k+ for repairs through the fight, for a grand total of +4 ranged defence more. And that's only if you use skirt as well, which you wouldn't. So it's 5k for a +2 ranged defence.

Why wouldn't you use armadyl in the fight cave? Karil's offer no statistical advantage over Black d'hide, it degrades, it's magic defence is useless, since any magic attack that hits you in Fight caves, you are dead. It's melee defence is lower than black d'hide.

You are better off meleeing with black mask. There's spawns in Chaos tunnels past Black demons.

Do it when you have a lot of time to spare. Don't do it you have to interrupt.

Jagex does not always do things well.

We are talking about melee.

Althought I agree Karil's is much much worth it just because of the magic defence, it still makes no sense. Karil's was released when Black d'hide was around, it still makes no sense.

D'hide still follows the rule of being weaker to melee, since it's other stats are still higher than melee defence. Too bad they don't. They'd be much more useful if they did. What rule is that, because i have never heard of it. The one you said "Karil's weaker to melee because it follows the combat triangle." Read your last few post. -_-

D'hide still follows the rule of being weaker to melee, since it's other stats are still higher than melee defence. Too bad they don't. They'd be much more useful if they did.

Sorry. Didn't know Karil's coif wasn't armour. :roll: And you still haven't explain why logically Karil's should have lesser melee defence. The thing is, with sirhemen's line, that's not the case, in an area with magical and melee monsters, people will use melee armour and mage def pray the majority of the time. Karil's doesen't need melee defence, because theres an incredibly limited use for it to have it. On the topic of the x-bow, at the time of its release, it was without a doubt the strongest ranged weapon in runescape, but time progresses, the bow is much like dragon, at once it was the best, but has been beaten by modern gear. The same goes for the coif, when barrows was introduced, it was the best defence ranged helm in the game, and has always been fairly cheap, so has always been quite worth it. Even at the time of release, there was Archer helm, which has higher ranged attack, yet only missing 1 or 2 stats on defence. Karils armor is suited for rangers, Karil was a ranger. Combat triangle says that a ranger is weak to melee, a mage weak to range and a melee weak to magic. So shouldn't Karils armory which is a range armor have those stats? Also, does Karil need to be superior in melee defense to Dhide? No. Black d'hide is weaker to melee, yet has higher melee defence to Karil's. By your logic I can say Infinity or 3rd age mage is strong vs. melee, so shouldn't they have the stats to defend it? Yes. It has higher requirements.

What armor are you refering to? Karil's shouldn't have inferior stats to Black d'hide at all, especially not when it has higher requirements But for any smart person, it has much better stats. If you are using karil's, you will either be ranging something, in which you could only get hit by range/mage, which it has higher def, or melleing something that uses a mage based attack, in which it has better stats. If your meleeing something that melee's you, using black d'hide or karil's will both be a bad idea, so the defence won't matter. Karil has way better magical defense than D'hide, so it's far from inferior to it. Since Karil and Dhide is armor used mainly for Magical defense. And....rest that Danqazmlp said. :thumbup: You two forget the Coif and crossbow. Those 2 have almost no uses, a cheaper and BETTER alternative can be found with lesser requirements AND cost. Karil's top and skirt has a total of...+4 more ranged defence. Magic defence is perfectly fine, Karil's top and skirt has a total of 13 less stab, 10 less slash, and 15 less crush. This means a set of armour that requires +30 more defence levels, give on average, ONLY 80% of the stats of black d'hide. Which costs 1% of the cost of Karil's. This should NOT happen. A more costly and higher requirement armour should NOT be WEAKER. This topic is about barrow armor not weapons. It's simple: If your gonna be at a enviroment with magical and melee monsters>Use Dragonhide If your gonna be at enviroment with magical and ranged monsters>Use Karil If you wanna complain or rant about Karil armor>Go rants forum. Sorry. Didn't know Karil's coif wasn't armour. :roll: And you still haven't explain why logically Karil's should have lesser melee defence.

Seems like no 3rd age melee piece but the helm was traded.

Bandos is so overused. Your looks get old really fast when everyone wears it.

Ya it's just another attempt at a buy out but the public is not going to pay 55M for some pretty armour and the people who did already have it so it's basically no use trying to buy it out anymore. These buyouts are usually a pay for big clan leaders to dump their 3rd age on the wanna be merchants trying to get in on the buyout. So if I was you I'd sell it if you don't want it anymore. I'd pay 55m. 8-)

What armor are you refering to? Karil's shouldn't have inferior stats to Black d'hide at all, especially not when it has higher requirements But for any smart person, it has much better stats. If you are using karil's, you will either be ranging something, in which you could only get hit by range/mage, which it has higher def, or melleing something that uses a mage based attack, in which it has better stats. If your meleeing something that melee's you, using black d'hide or karil's will both be a bad idea, so the defence won't matter. Karil has way better magical defense than D'hide, so it's far from inferior to it. Since Karil and Dhide is armor used mainly for Magical defense. And....rest that Danqazmlp said. :thumbup: You two forget the Coif and crossbow. Those 2 have almost no uses, a cheaper and BETTER alternative can be found with lesser requirements AND cost. Karil's top and skirt has a total of...+4 more ranged defence. Magic defence is perfectly fine, Karil's top and skirt has a total of 13 less stab, 10 less slash, and 15 less crush. This means a set of armour that requires +30 more defence levels, give on average, ONLY 80% of the stats of black d'hide. Which costs 1% of the cost of Karil's. This should NOT happen. A more costly and higher requirement armour should NOT be WEAKER.

What armor are you refering to? Karil's shouldn't have inferior stats to Black d'hide at all, especially not when it has higher requirements

Point is, a higher level armour shouldn't have lower stats.

I feel it's a buyout.

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