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I wonder who that is... :-w Yay! It took me a month to figure out the first riddle, but after that, it only took two days to get the rest...Although I got a lot of help from the forums. If you want, you can PM me if you are stuck, I'll try to help you out.

Right there it says membership subscriptions pay for free players as well. It does not ackknowledge anything of you paying. AND YOU DONT FRIGGIN PAY ANYWAYS! you dont even click on the ads, honsetly who here wants to find old classmates? Most of the people playing havent graduated...I hope. anywho No matter what quoutes or messages I post, nothings going to convince you, and neither are you going to bring me and qoutes or messages... So, have fun demanding freeloaders! That says members pay to support the F2P support...Not that they don't deserve updates...Completely different things...I'm going to stop arguing with you, since like Prankster said, the aregument should be between the creatorof this campagin (Prankster) and Jagex.

And who can forget Shade Burning? It's a fairly good way to make money, probably not the best, but better than some.

Ok, so all Mod Wood said was "We concentrate on P2P more, and we care about them more." Almost everyone knows that, and almost every F2P acknowledges it. It never says members pay for F2P updates, it says P2P pay for F2P servers, which is different. Call me a hypocrite if you want, but F2P actually "pay" for part of the F2P servers, from the ads. Find me a place in Mod Wood's reply that says"F2P shouldn't get updaes", and I'll stop.

I'm currently coming up with improvements for firemaking, expect to see a topic about it soon.

Did you even see when he posted this? August 2004. Before slayer came out.

The fishing guild has a bank because it's far from another bank. The mining guild is close to Fally east bank, I think it's fine the way it is now. And no new levels for the mining guild, although a few more coal would be nice.

It takes a lot of money to get 99 construction...People who get it should get something in return, other than having a cool house. I support...

I was showing that it even if you sell for 300 each, you can still make a lot of money. You'll also get buyers quicker, as many merchanters will want them. I know I made a mistake on the ess price, so I'll fix it here. 108 natures made a trip. 35 trips an hour. 35*108=3780 3780 natures made an hour. 325 each. 3780*325=1,228,500 1890 essence is needed. Essence is sold about 100 each. 1890*100=189,000 1,228,500 made 189,000 spent. 1,228,500-189000=1,039,500. The first time, I completely forgot it was double nats, meaning you get two natures out of one ess. So that's why you only need 1890 ess. Now lets see if it's possible to do 35 trips an hour... About 1 minute and 43 seconds each trip. 30 seconds to run from Edgeville bank to Zamorak mage. 2 seconds to right click, then press teleport. 2 seconds to teleport. 20 seconds to get into inner rift. 15 seconds to run on nature rift. 2 seconds to click on nature rift. 5 seconds to click on nature altar, and to make 48 natures. 5 seconds to empty all the pouches. 5 seconds to make 50 more natures. 5 seconds to unequip glory, and click on it. 3 seconds to choose Edgeville. 1 seconds for the teleport animation. I don't know where the teleport brings you, but it shouldn't be too far from the bank. Maybe 8 seconds to run to bank? 2 seconds to right click banker, and bank all natures. 2 seconds to remove 24 ess. 5 seconds to put ess in pouches. 2 seconds to remove 24 more ess. 2 seconds to put 1 ess in pouch. 2 seconds to remove 1 more ess. That takes just over 2 minutes. And occasionally, you have to repair the pouches. So lets change it to 28 trips an hour. That's 3024 natures made an hour. Let's say you manage to get really lucky, and find a buyer for 350 each. That's 1058400 made an hour. And if you get really lucky again, and buy ess for 80 each, that's 120,960 spent. That comes out to about 937.5K an hour. Missing 1 mil by 62.5K. My calculations for time may be a little off, so maybe it is possible. The only way to find out is for someone to try it.

Yes, that's the main reason that F2P don't have a lot of bank space. But almost no one becomes a member for bank space. When I became a member, I didn't even think about it. F2P are going to get everything they want. Neither is P2P. And no one ever said anything about F2P getting all of P2P, or anything about F2P getting everything they want. All these people are asking for is 8-12 more bank spaces, not anything else. Yes, not a lot of people click on the ads. But the money that Jagex gets from the few people clicking on ads is about enough to keep F2P going. By inviting friends, they are inviting potential members. Potential members mean potential money. I answered most of this above...But I don't get what you mean by F2P support. You mean giving Jagex money while being F2P? Well, they probably will invite more friends. Those friends are once again potential members, potential money. That's F2P support...Especially if the friends they invited became P2P first... I'm done ranting for now, so good bye and have a nice day.

Iron is the best for xp, since it has a quick respawn rate, and is easy to mine (1 hit at level 60). I personally use the mining guild for mithril, there aren't usually people there mining it. If there are, I just go outside the guild, and mine those two rocks.

Yeah...I meant that there's no bad affect on mmbers I can think of...And Prankster wants people to discuss it, but only with supporting or constructive criticism, which your posts aren't. I'm pretty sure you haven't read the whole thread...You probably just read the title, saw the letters/number F2P, and decided that it stunk. Please read the whole first post, and try to read most of the topic. Did you actually write to Jagex saying "Tell me F2P don't deserve any updates!!!". If F2P don't get updates, a lot of them will quit, and they are potential members, potential money for Jagex. I hope you can understand that Jagex doesn't want F2P to quit because they don't get updates. Give us some logical proof why F2P don't deserve more bank space, instead of going to Jagex to beg them to agree with you. Jagex obviously won't agree, for the reasons I and others have stated. You can't always rely on Jagex to not give F2P updates, I have a feeling that they will be getting more and more updates, probably 2 or more a year. This year, there has already been the SoS and the new prayers, both good additions of F2P and P2P. Remember, everything F2P gets, P2P get. Although this suggestion may not be for P2P, Jagex may decide to give anothe row to both. Good job Prankster, you've gotten about 75 supporters! And a few of them are members too! Good luck with getting more supporters...

Let me just inform you that I'm a member...Where's your proof F2P doesn't deserve more bank space? Give quotes from Jagex or else you don't have an argument...And if Jagex thinks F2P oesn't deserve moer bank space, then why do they even have a bank?

I started Runescape in January...So the first update was the Easter holiday thing, or if graphic updates count, the Fally update. If the holiday thing doesn't count, then Trouble Brewing, or SoS.

We've explained it over and over...This would NOT affect members! And, some people's parents don't have credit cards, or don't want to pay. Those people may not be able to get a job, maybe they aren't old enough, or their parents won't let them. There are many reasons why some people aren't P2P.

Where'd you get the picture? It's on the cover of the 2006 Red Sox yearbook..Or something...

Isn't that from the 2006 Red Sox year book or something? I have it...You should get a picture of the inside, if you can. Make it an animation if you want, I think it'll be cool.

I don't know which gang...Bu you can do it with buying half from someone else. I did it, but you still have to give a cerificate to another person.

The color thing was from RSC. You know how now, if you say "red: insert text here", then it'll come out red? In RSC if you said "@red@ insert text here" or something like that, it would turn red.

OK, the reason I said Mauer is because to me, batting average is the most important stat...But that's just me. But the last few MVPs have all been slugggers...So, I guess Morneau could win it. Ortiz and Hafner both have a lot of HRs and RBI, but they're both DHs. The only guy in the top 5 HR that's not a DH is Dye, so hes also in the competetion. It's probably not going to be Jeter, he only has a few homers, less than Johnny Damon which is quite strange IMO. I guess Manny could also be in it... NY ROY: Probably not a pitcher, none of them are that good. I haven't paid a lot of attention to the NL, so I don't know who's a rookie...

Well, let's look at the combat triangle. The new prayers make it easier...(By low I mean low for it's level, high means high for it's level) Melee Hits high at high levels Hits low-ish at low levels Cheapest Speed depends on weapon Smithing can make all F2P weapons and armor Magic Hits low at high levels Hits high at low levels Costs most Not that fast Runecrafting can only make elemental runes, mind and body. But, they are the most commonly used. There is no way to make armor. Range Hits low at high levels Hits low at low levels. Costs kind of a lot... Quickest No way to make weapons for F2P, but can make some armor. I personally think that Jagex recommends melee, it's the best. It hits the highest at high levels, can be quick, is cheapest, and all weapons/armor can be made. Magic and range are pretty much even. Magic hits higher, but is slower. The costs for both can be a lot. Ranging armor can be made, but not weapons (for F2P). It's the opposite for magic, magic weapons can be made, but not armor. That's the reason magic doesn't have good armor, range doesn't have good weapons. That evens it out...sort of. Melee is still the best...

Jagex will never make a smithing guild. There's the Blast Furnace, which require level 60 if you want to use it for free. There are also two anvils nearby. Also, in Rellekka has a furnace and anvil in the same building. Or if you want close to banks...Al-Kharid and Varrock, for furnaces and anvils respectively. And no rune rocks. They're in the Wildy for a reason. There are also 2 addy rocks right outside the guild. You've presented it in a better way than I've seen, but I still say no.

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You can go to chicken farms. People rarely pick up the bones, and chickens ar easy to kill, so there are a lot of bones.

From some guy that died when I was herding sheep. Granite Shield Rune Boots And my clue scroll from a farmer...I was trying to pickpocket him but I accidently killed him. I got green d'hide chaps, 4 blue firelighters and some money.