curmudgeony

Such as? I'm honestly curious. I currently run with rune plate, and while am too poor for barrows, I am curious what equiptment I might be looking for to get.

Sounds like a flatpack, depending on what you want to do you can put it up or just store it. Flatpacks key issues is that they don't provide any exp to you when they are built. So the "market" for flatpacks is pretty limited. About the only real market is for top of the line items that "do" something, like the dresser, wardrobe, or costume room storage items. Typically these are either sold or often you can trade for the raw materials.

Make sure you take into account two additional factors, the cost in unnoting your ores--plus the risk of ore thieves. I'm not sure how much noting and unnoting cost, but you have to factor it into your figures. Lets say its only 6gp per ore. Those 6's add up, for 50k of ore that is an additional 300,000 of cost eating into your profits. Also, don't forget the time cost. Smelting and smithing that amount of ore will take time. I am unsure about the blast furnace, but in a regular forge, it is about 90 seconds to 2 minutes to smelt a load of ore, not counting smithing time. Therefore, with your load of 50k just to turn raw ore into bars that is roughly 1250 hours or 52 solid 24-hour days of work. Add to that the time to get the iron ore, the selling time, and your looking at it being well into spring before you make your money back and see a profit. It seems an awful lot of work for about--after ore costs alone (not counting noting costs)--3.75 million profit.

Perhaps some discussion of the relative merits of watching crops yourself versus paying the farm and/or protection flowers, might make a good addition to the guide. Much of my own bottleneck is gathering farmer payments.

I would say greater ess would be better, depending on your mining level. A decent level miner can mine 1k worth of ess per hour. Which in this case would be 400k. The other methods might have bigger payoffs, but the costs in time/materials/difficulty in finding a buyer makes the easily sold pure ess the thing to beat.

so pay farmer = hands off exp and items; protection item growing = no disease, but item will die if you don't stop by to water every farming tick? Correct?

If you have a "protection item" like a scarecrow or marigolds, your crop will be protected from disease/death and you *don't* have to pay a farmer?

Sure everyone mentions god books as a great prayer boots, but lets say you had a choice between a white knight kite or a broodoo shield. Which would you choose? Is a particular color of broodoo shield better?

You could move your house to brimhaven and bank by servant, or just run back and forth to arrdy, with a ring of charos (a)

I think new house rooms might be happening. I think a greenhouse, or perhaps an armoury

The one's in Edgeville are good. And most of the time its "neutral turf" in terms of PKers. Nevertheless, you have to watch yourself though; there are a few rotten apples down there that can spoil it. In addition, decent herb droppers are flesh crawlers in stronghold of security.

This is the one quest that killed me. Anyone have an suggestions or tips? Are maging or ranging at all options?

Run whiteberry spawns for profit in wildy, nothing like a taste of risk to make the game more interesting. (ps, don't take loads of expensive gear w/ you)

Do silk stall till you can pickpocket master farmers, then steal seeds roughly up to level 45, then pickpocket fremmy. Gloves of silence would be a good investment. Make sure that while you are doing this, you don't lag your agility score too far behind. At level 50 switch to safes in the thieves den. You'll need 50 agility to buy a stethoscope from the thieving shop, which gives you a bonus in stealing from the safes. You don't need to have it but it does give a bit of bonus. Also look into quests that raise that level.

The grind of the level treadmill really gets me down, I'm on the threshold of the fun higher level quests, but not quite there yet. For now I am hunkering down and trying to pull together some merchanting cash. I need about 30 or so rubies so its down in thieves den for me; then a month of wandering between the forge and port phantasim bank. Iron smelting, woot!

One small favor quest can provide a highly effective boost to farm exp if you choose to apply the reward there. I did tears for a while, then chain quested Forgotten Tale of Drunken Dwarf and Garden of Tranquility. It boosted me to around 30 or so. My farming has slowed a bit but I'm getting back in there.

And as a quick aside, just remember colored gloves can sell to nonmembers. Colored boots cannot. (Still dealing w/ 50 #@!$! unsellable boots)

So anything below, (lets say maple short and above) you shouldn't string and alch? What if you can make your own nats?

Don't forget Agility. That skill also carries over.

No item or monster respawns. For Earth Day 2007 I think they should turn off tree respawns for 24 hours.

Two better options are shilo village gem rocks, though you do have to mine a bit to get rubies. Alternatively, if you have 50+ thieving, the safes in rogue's den (food is a good idea, but it is close to a bank). You might also want to think about the goldsmithing gloves from family crest and the Kelgrim gold mine. With the gloves and an unlocked ring of charos, it is quite the source for exp.

Agreed. For best effect, don't wear a glory, it causes gem drops. Also consider getting goldsmithing gauntlets from family crest. You can pot to 59 magic for that last blast spell

The crystal saw and tea are musts. I use a strategy of "level jumping" with them and building as high level as possible. If you haven't done "one small favor," do it. That quest can be used to level construction quite a bit. If you get genie lamps, use them. I went from 40-41 on lamps. At 50, I plan to move to Yanille for the bank (although Fremmy isn't a bad spot, you can bank on etcetera or fairy ring to lost city)

But can you stout to 65, or is it a solid 65?

I've been debating the iron knives vs cannon balls, are cannonballs really good sellers?