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Share any paradox's here. Here are some of mine:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This statement is false.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is the answer to this question?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You get the idea, post away! :wink:

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That's pretty sweet :-k .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe I should Wikipedia more, that's pretty interesting...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Free will and omniscience paradox: If there is an omniscient being then it is impossible to have free will, for the omniscient being already knows what you are going to decide, therefore you can't decide because the decision has already been made.

 

 

 

:lol: Wiki's wrong :^o :-w .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno, I think might be feeling nostalgia looking at that statement...

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That's pretty sweet :-k .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe I should Wikipedia more, that's pretty interesting...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Free will and omniscience paradox: If there is an omniscient being then it is impossible to have free will, for the omniscient being already knows what you are going to decide, therefore you can't decide because the decision has already been made.

 

 

 

:lol: Wiki's wrong :^o :-w .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno, I think might be feeling nostalgia looking at that statement...

 

 

 

How is it wrong?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Paradox: Two hands draw each other into existence at the same time. (Salvador Dali)

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How is it wrong?

 

 

 

Because he's a Christian :P

 

 

 

I'd love to see how Carlin would bat that little paradox away, most likely 'omfg any1 hu nos wat 'omnizipunt' meenz iz lik gona go 2 hell coz dey dunt belif in God'

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Go back in time and kill you parents. :uhh: :ohnoes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good one. If you killed your parents (back in time), that would be like killing yourself before you were born!!!

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Go back in time and kill you parents. :uhh: :ohnoes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good one. If you killed your parents (back in time), that would be like killing yourself before you were born!!!

 

 

 

Both of you look at "John Titor" on wikipedia. If those theories are right, going back in time would send you into a slightly different time-line (but if the theoretical time machine "John" was talking about was improved, one could arrive in an identical time line (you create a new time line by going back into yours and changing it... ). So even if you go back into your original time line and do something, it will have no effect on you, since by changing your time line, you've split it in two.).

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How is it wrong?

 

 

 

Because he's a Christian :P

 

 

 

I'd love to see how Carlin would bat that little paradox away, most likely '[omg] any1 hu nos wat 'omnizipunt' meenz iz lik gona go 2 hell coz dey dunt belif in God'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The existance of such a being would that would have created the world, it's forces and dimensions, and invariably, time itself, would not be confined by the forces it created, and would therefore be outside of time itself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Catholic View

 

 

 

God is more powerful than the forces, time included, that he created.

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How is it wrong?

 

 

 

Because he's a Christian :P

 

 

 

I'd love to see how Carlin would bat that little paradox away, most likely '[omg] any1 hu nos wat 'omnizipunt' meenz iz lik gona go 2 hell coz dey dunt belif in God'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Un-Biased View

 

 

 

The existance of such a being would that would have created the world, it's forces and dimensions, and invariably, time itself, would not be confined by the forces it created, and would therefore be outside of time itself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Catholic View

 

 

 

God is more powerful than the forces, time included, that he created.

 

 

 

You have a point there... But maybe that being was sent here from another time line... IMO, that sounds more plausible than the religious theory of God just "being."

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Even though I sometimes side with religious people in some debates, I no longer consider myself religious.

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A personal favourite: could God create a stone so heavy that He could not lift it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Haha, that reminds me...

 

 

 

Not really a paradox, but still nice to think about..

 

 

 

What happens when the unstoppable force hits the immovable object?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scary, I know. :uhh:

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A personal favourite: could God create a stone so heavy that He could not lift it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Haha, that reminds me...

 

 

 

Not really a paradox, but still nice to think about..

 

 

 

What happens when the unstoppable force hits the immovable object?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scary, I know. :uhh:

 

 

 

Umm... Let's hope that doesn't happen anytime soon. Wait nvm, let's hope that does happen and the universe gets wiped out.

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Even though I sometimes side with religious people in some debates, I no longer consider myself religious.

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How is it wrong?

 

 

 

Because he's a Christian :P

 

 

 

I'd love to see how Carlin would bat that little paradox away, most likely '[omg] any1 hu nos wat 'omnizipunt' meenz iz lik gona go 2 hell coz dey dunt belif in God'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Un-Biased View

 

 

 

The existance of such a being would that would have created the world, it's forces and dimensions, and invariably, time itself, would not be confined by the forces it created, and would therefore be outside of time itself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Catholic View

 

 

 

God is more powerful than the forces, time included, that he created.

 

 

 

You have a point there... But maybe that being was sent here from another time line... IMO, that sounds more plausible than the religious theory of God just "being."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another way you could view it is that omniscience does not contradict free will. Example:

 

 

 

Lets say I have a child. I presume to know my child very well. If I were to leave a cookie out on the table an hour before dinner, when I know my child get hungry, I would know that when I returned to that table the cookie would be gone, because I know my child would have eaten it. I did not force my child to eat it so I did not disturb his free will, but I had prior knowledge of what his actions would be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is how I consider God. He does not remove our choices, he merely knows our hearts and minds so well that he knows what we will do before we do it.

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A personal favourite: could God create a stone so heavy that He could not lift it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Haha, that reminds me...

 

 

 

Not really a paradox, but still nice to think about..

 

 

 

What happens when the unstoppable force hits the immovable object?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scary, I know. :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19323

 

 

 

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19321

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol: .

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Haha, that reminds me...

 

 

 

Not really a paradox, but still nice to think about..

 

 

 

What happens when the unstoppable force hits the immovable object?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scary, I know. :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If there's such a thing as an unstoppable force there cannot be such a thing as an immovable object and vice versa.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About omniscience and omnipotence:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If there's an omnipotent and omniscient being, they know what they are going to do next. If they know what they are going to do next, can they change what they do? If yes, they are not omniscient. If no, they are not omnipotent.

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If a tree falls in a forest, and no one is there, does it make a sound?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

put a sound recording device next to it and it will

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but no one is there to hear it? That includes a person putting a recording device there. It is impossible to tell if it will make a sound, because we only know sound happens when people are listening, or something is observing it.

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How is it wrong?

 

 

 

Because he's a Christian :P

 

 

 

I'd love to see how Carlin would bat that little paradox away, most likely '[omg] any1 hu nos wat 'omnizipunt' meenz iz lik gona go 2 hell coz dey dunt belif in God'

 

 

 

Err, I consider most Christian beliefs to be bull [cabbage]....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I used to believe that paradox, maybe two weeks ago, but Nitra's explanation shows why it's wrong. Having your whole life known before birth does not necessarily mean you lose "free will", and Nitra's explanation should explain why.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally, I still don't think we have free will, not because a god could be omniscient, but based on the fact that every action we make is merely a reaction to our environment :-w .

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