macroers/autoers and their place

[kelbri]

Ok, I know this will probably get locked in about 10 minutes from me hitting the submit button, but who knows, maybe not...

 

 

 

I'm gonna use macroers and autoers interchangably. Maybe they mean the same thing, maybe they don't, but in this thread, I will treat them as the same thing, so don't flame me about it please.

 

 

 

Here's my thought. Everyone hates macroers, right? Everyone except the people macroing, and those that buy their wares. What would happen to all the fletchers out there if all of a sudden every one of them had to cut their own wood? Sure, there are a huge portion of them that already do cut their own wood, but then there are the ones that buy their wood from shady dealers. What about the person selling 5k coal outside the mining guild, but if you check the top scores, they don't even show up for mining? Ok, ok, they may be merchanting, but I'm gonna take a stab at saying that they have an autoer down in the cavern as they speak about selling.

 

 

 

So what if autoers, or macroers had their place? What if when a new account was created, there was an option to say this would be a macroing account? WAIT! Don't hang me yet. What if the account was created as such, they could ONLY log onto world X, Y and Z. Things could be a little different on world X, Y and Z. Macroing levels would come alot slower. Instead of getting 25xp points for cutting down a tree, you would only get 1xp point. Or for mining some ore, only 1xp point. Anything done on these worlds would give you only 1xp point. Leveling here would take a long time, thus no autoers on the high scores list.

 

 

 

Things would cost the same amount, like a lobster (if the autoer ever got that high) would cost 250gp. And coal would still sell for 150-200 ea. Sure, this would still make autoers richer, but at a very much slower pace, as it would take them an extremely long time to get to mining coal, or cutting willows, or fishing lobbies. But let's face it, autoers have been around, and WILL be around for quite some time. And as long as there are autoers, there are people who purchase from them. I know nothing about macros or anything like that, and I don't purchase this stuff (I mine/cut/fish everything by myself). Let's just try to make it harder for the money to come in for them.

 

 

 

Now I know what everyone is going to say... "Why would they want to choose that it's a macroing account when they create it? They can just create a regular account and macro on a regular world!" Sure they can. So my answer to that would be to make all accounts a macro account by default. Then once you finish tutorial island, give the account user an extremely easy task to fulfill, something that a macro couldn't do, to take the macro designation from the account.

 

 

 

Now this is by no means an end all, be all to get rid of macroing, but I think it could be a start. And if you want to get rid of macroers/autoers, you'll lose alot of the RuneScape commumity, not only would you lose the macroer/autoers, but you would lose alot of the players that rely on these accounts to purchase the goods from. Not as many willows or yews selling? Is that a good, or bad thing?

 

 

 

Wait a second, I can now cut yews without seeing could045 and could088 and could014 cutting the same tree? I'm sure we would all like to see this.

 

 

 

Rip this thread apart if you like, but please, try to be creative about it. Don't just say "Horrible idea, don't support." and hit submit. At the same time, don't say "Love it, 100% support :thumbsup: " and hit submit either. I'd love to hear some criticism and help on the idea. Thanks.

[aquariusman]

Why would anyone, especially Jagex, want to support those which they have scorned their entire career/life. Macroers and Autoers have always been on the worst of the worst of the worst. Jagex ****ed up rune essence mining because of them. They ****ed up woodcutting yews on F2p because they ****ed up rune essence mining. Essentialy, if Jagex is even crazy enough to do this, just about every player will go crazy over. I certainly will. Do I want autoers to have worlds all to themselves? **** no! Does Jagex even want autoers to even exist? **** no! Unless you're implying that Jagex be sneaky, do this for a couple of months to build up a good data base on the autoers/macroers, then turn around and have a super-massive ban, then this is the second worst solution to solving the autoer problem. Autoers and macroers will still go on the actual player worlds, just because they can. On the list of solutions, this comes just above deleting Runescape and below the rune essence, which is about #3845677 on the list of solutions.

[kelbri]

So here is my question to you then. Do you think RuneScape would be where it is if macroers didn't exist?

 

 

 

I totally agree with what you are saying about macroers being the worst of the worst. And you know what, that would be a good idea about the massive bans. I wish I knew how macroing worked, so I could suggest a better solution, but I don't, so this is what I have for now.

 

 

 

Keep it coming. I may not like the rejection, but I very much respect the criticism.

[Baezal]

I don't know much about inflation/deflation or whatnot, but I'm pretty sure the prices would either go way up or way down :-k

 

 

 

And it probably wouldn't be a good idea to have a default macro button (or whatever) either. When I started RS, I had no idea what a macro was, and I doubt most new players would either

[chams10]

I see where you are coming from, but it wont happen. Jagex tries to keep their users safe (although its not their job), and if you are stupid and actually download an autoer instead of compiling the source yourself--there is a high risk of keylogging.

 

 

 

Unless of course, jagex released a office autoer, which would be the only legal one to use that could only be used on these "macro" worlds.

 

 

 

Anywho, it will never happen. As long as their is runescape, there will be autoers autoing illegally. Any way this topic goes, I wouldn't support.

[Zaaps1]

Some poor kid might not be able to solve the task and get stuck in 1xp hell :(

[mhosseins]

Ok, I know this will probably get locked in about 10 minutes from me hitting the submit button, but who knows, maybe not...

 

 

 

 

*starts counting the seconds*

 

*gets a torch and starts flaming the page since it is absolutely stupid to help the most hated people in runescape*

[Abyssalwhip]

Great we have an idiot admitting to autoing... Have fun being banned pl0x?

[sirgudi]

I do admit, i did auto for about 20 mins. i got banned -.-

 

 

 

but, if macroers wern't introduced, the economy would have worked out its own way to get logs and ess.

 

 

 

 

 

so...they didnt make the economy better, they destroyed it. now 50% of the economy depepnds on autoers, and if they were stopped, full stop, the prices would probaly double/tripple!

 

 

 

 

 

~~~Gudi~~~

[Infi]

If macroers were non-existant, more players would strive to get more resources, easily. Tell the truth. Would you want to cut if there was 1 people on a yew tree or 20 on a yew tree? That is my 2 cents.

[NJE03]

I think this is bad idea because of course I despise cheaters.

 

If this were implemented there would me sooo many more people doing it because it would be allowed. Sure it would take longer to level if a log only gave 1 xp, but if their doing this 24/7 on many account it adds up and in my mind would only make things worse.

 

 

 

If Jagex completely stop autoers some how, THAT would be the way to go. Not encouraging them.

[deathmmaster]

Runescape would be much much better if there were no autoers

[kelbri]

Great we have an idiot admitting to autoing... Have fun being banned pl0x?

 

 

 

Take a look at my stats sig. You think that I auto? :shame: Like I said, I am not a fan of autoers either. I am trying to look at a way that Jagex can deal with them, rather than get rid of them, since that seems to be IMPOSSIBLE for them.

 

 

 

Yesterday I was walking past the willows, and there were 4 autoers there, with the same name, only different numbers at the end... Cut some willows while reporting every one of them.

 

 

 

Like I said before, I like to get the constructive criticism, but what I don't like, is getting accused of autoing. Yeah, I can write here till I'm blue in the face, and my fingers go raw from typing, that I don't auto, but I don't expect you to believe it. So go back to your 5 word post replys, get your post count up a bit more, maybe someone, someday, somewhere, will care about what you have to say... Hey, I did say MAYBE!

[waynezworld1]

Ok, I know this will probably get locked in about 10 minutes from me hitting the submit button, but who knows, maybe not...

 

 

 

I'm gonna use macroers and autoers interchangably. Maybe they mean the same thing, maybe they don't, but in this thread, I will treat them as the same thing, so don't flame me about it please.

 

 

 

Here's my thought. Everyone hates macroers, right? Everyone except the people macroing, and those that buy their wares. What would happen to all the fletchers out there if all of a sudden every one of them had to cut their own wood? Sure, there are a huge portion of them that already do cut their own wood, but then there are the ones that buy their wood from shady dealers. What about the person selling 5k coal outside the mining guild, but if you check the top scores, they don't even show up for mining? Ok, ok, they may be merchanting, but I'm gonna take a stab at saying that they have an autoer down in the cavern as they speak about selling.

 

 

 

So what if autoers, or macroers had their place? What if when a new account was created, there was an option to say this would be a macroing account? WAIT! Don't hang me yet. What if the account was created as such, they could ONLY log onto world X, Y and Z. Things could be a little different on world X, Y and Z. Macroing levels would come alot slower. Instead of getting 25xp points for cutting down a tree, you would only get 1xp point. Or for mining some ore, only 1xp point. Anything done on these worlds would give you only 1xp point. Leveling here would take a long time, thus no autoers on the high scores list.

 

 

 

Things would cost the same amount, like a lobster (if the autoer ever got that high) would cost 250gp. And coal would still sell for 150-200 ea. Sure, this would still make autoers richer, but at a very much slower pace, as it would take them an extremely long time to get to mining coal, or cutting willows, or fishing lobbies. But let's face it, autoers have been around, and WILL be around for quite some time. And as long as there are autoers, there are people who purchase from them. I know nothing about macros or anything like that, and I don't purchase this stuff (I mine/cut/fish everything by myself). Let's just try to make it harder for the money to come in for them.

 

 

 

Now I know what everyone is going to say... "Why would they want to choose that it's a macroing account when they create it? They can just create a regular account and macro on a regular world!" Sure they can. So my answer to that would be to make all accounts a macro account by default. Then once you finish tutorial island, give the account user an extremely easy task to fulfill, something that a macro couldn't do, to take the macro designation from the account.

 

 

 

Now this is by no means an end all, be all to get rid of macroing, but I think it could be a start. And if you want to get rid of macroers/autoers, you'll lose alot of the RuneScape commumity, not only would you lose the macroer/autoers, but you would lose alot of the players that rely on these accounts to purchase the goods from. Not as many willows or yews selling? Is that a good, or bad thing?

 

 

 

Wait a second, I can now cut yews without seeing could045 and could088 and could014 cutting the same tree? I'm sure we would all like to see this.

 

 

 

Rip this thread apart if you like, but please, try to be creative about it. Don't just say "Horrible idea, don't support." and hit submit. At the same time, don't say "Love it, 100% support :thumbsup: " and hit submit either. I'd love to hear some criticism and help on the idea. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I first of want to say i do not agree with your idea. Sorry im sure you put alot of thought into it but i simply do not think allowing them to do it in any situation is acceptable. but i just wanted to explain to you the way autoers work, tho i am not one myself i know alot about computers and can guess what the are using to auto...there are programs that are on the web openly admiting that they can give you a program that autos for you and im sure ir jagex could something about that they would, but neways an auto works by using a program and moves your mouse across the screen using calculated positioning and color sensitivity...so people write scripts that autoers run through the program to set the mouse to click on the color of the ore of the tree and then can detect where the bank is...so from what i understand jagex cant 100% tell if these programs are in use unless they hacked your computer but they most likely can notice if a repition of the same steps are taken for hours unend so thats one way but the only way jagex has really came up with destroying the macroeing problem is the report buttom..so people need to start using it...even if the names are all numbers and you cant remeber it, just write it down and type it in, we need these autoers banned and this is the only way we can help not just sitting around complaining...so while your wcing report ppl..heck im so bored while i woodcut thats basicaly all i do while im cutting at draynor

 

 

 

well i hope i helped you to understand how macroers work and i hope iv influenced people to start reporting the autoers and getting rid of them..one by one

 

 

 

 

 

peace

 

me

[screally1]

look its simple: no you cannot do it - it is a game, and you must play by the rules

 

 

 

some people cannot afford macros and as such some people with say 3/4 computers in their hous could have 3 or 4 macro accounts running at once

 

 

 

this is unfair

[Iamdan]

There is no way that jagex would do this. No way no how. Jagex killed classic in an attempt to stop macroers, (which is stupid, because they all went to rs2) in doing so they are losing money they would have made if they let classic continue. We all know how much jagex loves money.

 

 

 

Now I know what everyone is going to say... "Why would they want to choose that it's a macroing account when they create it? They can just create a regular account and macro on a regular world!" Sure they can. So my answer to that would be to make all accounts a macro account by default. Then once you finish tutorial island, give the account user an extremely easy task to fulfill, something that a macro couldn't do, to take the macro designation from the account.

 

 

 

 

So legit players can do an extremely easy task, but a program can't? The only "tasks" which would slow down macroers are ones which are hard for legit players. Jagex would not put a hard task in on character creation because of all the idiots who wouldn't be able to do it.

 

 

 

Besides, if all else fails the macroer would just auto tutorial island, do the task legit and then continue to macro.