gahh Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Hi, There's a problem with my computer. Whenever I boot normally, it will reboot itself after a few seconds. I scanned in safe mode with Norton 2007, Adaware SE Personal, Spybot S&D, AVG 7.5 and AVG Anti Spyware and none of them found viruses. AVG 7.5 said there was a Reading Error in Boot Sector of drive C:\. I think this might be part of the problem. I am typing from another computer. EDIT: Now the computer will restart itself before I log in. Straight after the WINDOWS XP and the loading bar under(blue thing moving around) the computer will restart. If you know anyhing that may help me, please post. All help would be appreciated. Thanks. PROBLEM SOLVED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon_7 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I honestly have no idea what's wrong. If I were you, I'd just take it to my local computer repair store and have them take a look at it and [wagon] it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahh Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 I know, that's what I'll do if no-one else knows whats wrong. (Free service here... heheh... :anxious: :anxious: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooberman Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 You can try performing a check disk from the recovery console presuming you have an xp disk. You need to boot from your xp cd and choose repair windows xp using the recovery console. You will then need to specify which installation of windows you want to repair. If you only have 1 installation this will be the only one there. Then you have to enter the administrator password which is usually blank so just hit enter. You will then be at a command prompt, when there type "chkdsk /r" without the quotations. You will then need to type "exit" no quotes. Hopefully you will then be able to boot into windows. Good luck oober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Overall I seems like the harddrive has become corrupted. Try a diskcheck like ooberman said. that should help verify where the problem is. If it turns out the hard drive is f****ed then you will need to buy a new hard drive and reinstall windows. Before this I would attach it to whatever pc your currently using and backup any data. >>>This is off the topic.<<< I scanned in safe mode with Norton 2007, Ad Aware SE Personal, Spybot S&D, AVG 7.5 and AVG Anti Spyware and none of them found viruses. Do you have Norton and AVG both installed on your pc? If so I highly recommend you remove one of them as they will cause major slow down. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahh Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 Thanks ooberman and JoeDaStudd. I have one question though. I have a fake edition of XP because someone gave it to us. Will it still work? And I will uninstall AVG if it starts working again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastermule52 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Yes, a pirated copy of WinXP will still have it's system repair features. I would assume that while your current install of WinXP is probably corrupted (one of the files must have gone haywire,) physical damage to the disc is rather unlikely. If it is, you'll be needing a new disc - it isn't something that can be repaired. You see, a hard drive consists of many very thin layers of film stacked on top of each other. On these films are millions of small metal fragments, which get flipped up or down (to represent the ones and zeros.) Damage to the disk happens when these fragments come loose. Obviously, that's not repairable. But what you're describing happens to me every couple of months as well - sometimes you just install something that doesn't go properly. Chances are you can simply "repair" and it will restore the file you need. If you aren't so lucky, you should be able to do a re-install over the old one without TOO much difficulty. [sarcasm]And there's always format c: ;-)[/sarcasm] The refuge that you built to flee that places that you've come to fear the most ... is the place that you have come to fear the most.Operator - http://www.heartunit.orgCouncil - http://z8.invisionfree.com/skillazModerator - http://forum.meebo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collective Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 You see, a hard drive consists of many very thin layers of film stacked on top of each other. On these films are millions of small metal fragments, which get flipped up or down (to represent the ones and zeros.) Damage to the disk happens when these fragments come loose. Please me that was a joke (if it wasn't, lookup "Hard Disk" on Wikipedia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastermule52 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Actually... If you'd like to quote wikipedia... You'll see my description is, while putting into layman's terms, rather accurate :-s The magnetic surface of each platter is divided into many small sub-micrometre-sized magnetic regions, each of which is used to encode a single binary unit of information. In today's HDDs each of these magnetic regions is composed of a few hundred magnetic grains. Each magnetic region forms a magnetic dipole which generates a highly localised magnetic field nearby. The write head magnetizes a magnetic region by generating a strong local magnetic field nearby. Early HDDs used the same inductor that was used to read the data as an electromagnet to create this field. Later versions of inductive heads included, metal in Gap (MIG) heads and thin film heads. In today's heads the read and write elements are separate but are in close proximity on the head portion of an actuator arm. The read element is typically magneto-resistive while the write element is typically thin-film inductive. But to the subject at hand, please? The refuge that you built to flee that places that you've come to fear the most ... is the place that you have come to fear the most.Operator - http://www.heartunit.orgCouncil - http://z8.invisionfree.com/skillazModerator - http://forum.meebo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 You see, a hard drive consists of many very thin layers of film stacked on top of each other. On these films are millions of small metal fragments, which get flipped up or down (to represent the ones and zeros.) Damage to the disk happens when these fragments come loose. Please me that was a joke (if it wasn't, lookup "Hard Disk" on Wikipedia). How the hell can you call him for being stupid when wikipedia backs him up on all apart from the flipping up and down bit. Yes, they are made of "film", yes they are in "layers", yes, they contain a coating on "metal" and yes, when the layers come loose the hard drive will fail. Collective I think you should read the wikipedia article on hard drives. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collective Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 How the hell can you call him for being stupid when wikipedia backs him up on all apart from the flipping up and down bit. Yes, they are made of "film", yes they are in "layers", yes, they contain a coating on "metal" and yes, when the layers come loose the hard drive will fail. Collective I think you should read the wikipedia article on hard drives. "Film" implies flexibility. Hard disk platters are not flexible (hence hard disk not floppy disk). They tend to be made of glass, actually. Most HDs have 3-5 platters, which certainly isn't "many". He did not say they were "coated" in metal, he said they had small "metal fragments" on them that flipped up and down (and even broke off independently), which is nonsense and horribly misleading even with an intended target of laymen. Oh, and just to be clear: I did not call him "stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bac_Talan Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Try booting into safe mode and see if that does anything... I once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.Pics or it didn't happen. I hate my generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastermule52 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Collective: I'm going to ask you, for the sake of this thread, to stay on topic. He was worried about damage to his hard disk, and I gave him an explanation about what this damage is all about. I actually doubt it's his problem anyway. In today's HDDs each of these magnetic regions is composed of a few hundred magnetic grains. Will that settle this? If not, I'll gladly take this to PM so we needn't go flooding this user's thread. Bat: That's always something to try, especially on a Windows box. However... I scanned in safe mode with ... He did already ;-) The refuge that you built to flee that places that you've come to fear the most ... is the place that you have come to fear the most.Operator - http://www.heartunit.orgCouncil - http://z8.invisionfree.com/skillazModerator - http://forum.meebo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collective Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 That's the same quote you posted before, but consider it settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahh Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 Ok, I will try and repair Windows with the XP disc. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahh Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 One slight problem. When I put the disc in, there isn't the place where it says press any key to boot from disc... :? So I can't repair now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooberman Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 ok, you have to set it to boot from the cd/dvd drive. To do this you have to get into the bios setup. Usually this is done by pressing the delete key or F1 when you start the pc. When you get into setup you need to look for a boot menu. Set the cd/dvd drive to boot first then you should see the option to press any key to boot from cd. If you need any more help, just ask :) oober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 ok, you have to set it to boot from the cd/dvd drive. To do this you have to get into the bios setup. Usually this is done by pressing the delete key or F1 when you start the pc. When you get into setup you need to look for a boot menu. Set the cd/dvd drive to boot first then you should see the option to press any key to boot from cd. If you need any more help, just ask :) oober It may also be f2 or f8 to get into the bios. (just incase) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahh Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 It's delete to enter BIOS for my comp. I just tried. Now it is repairing. :) I hope it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahh Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 Ok, it completed but did not work. The computer could log in but it still restarted itself after a few seconds. Here's what the CHKDSK said. CHKDSK found and fixed one or more errors on the volume. 78140128 kilobytes total disk space. 36618572 kilobytes are available. 4096 bytes in each allocation unit. 19535032 total allocation units on disk. 9154643 allocation units available on disk. Does this mean I need a new hard drive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahh Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 Yay! My computer started working again. I did the chkdsk again and restarted and now it works. Thanks guys for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mementh Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I would check the S.M.A.R.T. data on the drive and see if there are any major flaws (in the bios there should be a setting to turn this on) then get speedfan http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php it will have a option to look at the drive and see a in depth report that goes against others that have the same drive as you that should help The following statement is true. The previous statement is false. 60% of all statistics are made up 90% of the time andrew i love you & want you to have my babys!!! Finally, I get to save the Earth with deadly lasers instead of deadly slide shows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahh Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 Thanks. Although the problem is fixed, I can use the program to see if it might be happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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