A Note

 

Don't flame or spam on this thread and i do not condone or support Rule Breaking in any way or form, this is simply a thread to give the Tip.It members, a better view of rule breakers.

 

 

 

The Rule Breaking Community

 

Now you've all seem them, rule breakers, they coined the term "Rules are made to be broken"

 

These days they are a huge part of the runescape community, but they are also part of there own community.

 

Hundreds of rule breakers gather in a certain place (Which i will not name) making programs for macroing and also selling macros and swapping accounts.

 

I've seen people on this forum talking about macros being detected and scammers being pathetic, but the real truth is that they are a minority, there are HUGE groups of people, as big as the Tip.It community, all talking with each other and sharing ideas, this is the Rule Breaking Community.

 

 

 

Macros

 

We'll start with the biggest issue, Macros.

 

Every morning you'll log in and see the 20 or so macros at a tree then sigh thinking "Why can't they stop using those"

 

People these days think "Jagex Is Doing a great job, detecting macros with there...Un-Named detection program which we've never seen or been told about, yet have taken there word that they are doing it"

 

Whats wrong with this picture?

 

People these days understimate Macroers, thinking there simple colour clickers or small scripts running.

 

Wrong, Macroers these days use a scripting language called SCARSCRIPT to make massive scripts to do many things, these scripts are sometimes sold for runescape gold on some of the bigger communitys.

 

They insert this script into a program i will not name, and the macros go to work.

 

Now my main point about this being related to jagex saying they have a program to detect macros is, the program is Un-Detectable

 

It has been tested, and the only way jagex could find out is if they macroed for more than 6 hours at a time, and after finding that out, the larger communitys spread the news, and now it can be used freely and safely.

 

Obviously, jagex is not doing such a good job as it should.

 

 

 

Account Trading

 

The second biggest problem, yes you may see level 33 "Roxorpker11" selling his account for 3 k, but it is actually on a much larger scale.

 

for instance, in the Rule Breaking Community, i have recently seen some one selling the accounts "Pig" and "Sky" for 1.2 MILLION GOLD EACH

 

Also, there are nearly 100 level 120+ sold everyday and even more level 100+.

 

So the problem is obviously a much bigger problem than we thought, i have looked through a few sellers and i will make a completely random and Un-Educated guess that nearly 300 Million gold is made every day from Account trading, Obviously the 300 million is all made by different people, not a single person earning it all in a day.(Felt the need to clarify)

 

It gets bigger, we've all seen those "Rare names" like "Lumbridge" or "A"

 

I see those too, being sold for such prices as 10 MILLION each, this is a fact and is not an estimation or Educated guess, it is a FACT that i have seen with my own eyes.

 

The problem is bigger than you think

 

 

 

Offensive Language

 

A new problem has came up, quite recently actually, an alt code has been spread that lets you swear and By-Pass The Censor, thus it has become a bigger problem recently, but still not bad enough to be note worthy.

 

 

 

Account sharing

 

Practically unheard of, right?

 

Wrong

 

Account sharing is a huge problem these days, the most common is "Firecaping"

 

People let others onto there account to gain them the famed "Fire Cape" from Tzhaar.

 

There is also people sharing accounts for levels, quests, even just items.

 

It is a common but underground problem that most people don't notice.

 

 

 

Bug-Abuse

 

While Nearly Non-Existant now it has caused huge problems in the past,

 

The great party hat dupe.

 

The way the dupe worked was when in a trade screen it would put up a non-stackable item with an amount of zero, where it would normally be one. This would trick my side into thinking I put up nothing, and the other into thinking I put up one. So really, it's not duping because you don't need one to start with. It's more like "Creation." It also used an item ID. An item id is the number given to an item. No, each item does not have it's own ID. All r2h's are item 81, and all pink hats are item 580. This is why it is extremely hard for Jagex to find out which hats are real and which are fake.

 

Obviously this no longer works, another example is the durial massacre, but i wont go into that since its not a history lesson, but if you want to you can go to http://tip.it/runescape/index.php?page= ... erview.htm

 

But this is all in the past, so all we can do is wait and see if another game breaking bug comes up.

 

I'm sure you're thinking, how does this relate to the Rule Breaking Community?

 

Well some times a large or small group of rule breakers, may it be 2 or even 50 people, do absurd things to find bugs, they trade party hats or other items, put stuff on tables, eat certain items at certain times, run at certain walls, and move there camera to a certain viewpoint, this may sound silly to you, but this is how most bugs are found, by doing something random by accident.

 

 

 

These are all the real things that are in the Rule Breaking Community all of the other ways to break rules are really done by hit and run level 3 scammers, thanks for reading

 

 

 

I would give you an example of a site but it seems i am not allowed to, you may PM me for it if you want.

 

 

 

I don't want to be called a cheater or have a flame war start in this thread, this is simply to show you all that the problem is bigger than you think, and this is not a rant.

Everyone know about RSCD all along, you act like it's some big thing. Just play your own game.

 

I don't want to be called a cheater or have a flame war start in this thread, this is simply to show you all that the problem is bigger than you think, and this is not a rant.

 

 

 

Granted you dont, who would want to be?

 

 

 

However you have to look at all simple facts that you kept on reposting without really saying anything at all.

 

 

 

True maybe you dont want to go giving out that kind of information to jagex in order not to get your own account banned, but you surely have to realize that if you really know some of the stuff you say you know it would be hard to figure out how you know it without something being non legit.

 

 

 

Also nothing is undect-able anymore with the technology that is out there. Some things just take longer to find then others. thats all.

[Caution: Jagex Rule Violation], right?

I'm sorry but I have to be honest with you adsone, your topic is poorly researched. I could have come up with a much more informative topic about those cheating communities without even really trying. My suggestion is that you request this topic locked before further flamming, and go back studying the cheating communities and come back with a better more informative topic about these communities. I assume your point is to inform other players of what is going on in these communities?

 

 

 

You know what would really be useful? That you go back into these communities as a double agent and try to understand how the password cracking programs work, the scripts etc, and thus, come back here with good descritions of these programs and then propose solutions.

 

 

 

Don't critize jagex unless you have solutions. It's like saying that a method is bad, but without having a better method to propose. And if you don't have a better method to propose, then you can't prove their method is bad, see what I mean?

 

 

 

Yep..

I'll start off with some points about what you have said about the macros, which is one of the things that sparked me to post here.

 

 

 

Macros

 

We'll start with the biggest issue, Macros.

 

Every morning you'll log in and see the 20 or so macros at a tree then sigh thinking "Why can't they stop using those"

 

People these days think "Jagex Is Doing a great job, detecting macros with there...Un-Named detection program which we've never seen or been told about, yet have taken there word that they are doing it"

 

Whats wrong with this picture?

 

People these days understimate Macroers, thinking there simple colour clickers or small scripts running.

 

Wrong, Macroers these days use a scripting language called SCARSCRIPT to make massive scripts to do many things, these scripts are sometimes sold for runescape gold on some of the bigger communitys.

 

They insert this script into a program i will not name, and the macros go to work.

 

Now my main point about this being related to jagex saying they have a program to detect macros is, the program is Un-Detectable

 

It has been tested, and the only way jagex could find out is if they macroed for more than 6 hours at a time, and after finding that out, the larger communitys spread the news, and now it can be used freely and safely.

 

Obviously, jagex is not doing such a good job as it should.

 

 

 

There are indeed a lot of macroers about in RuneScape these days. The main reason behind this though, is because the people who buy RuneScape gold for real world money are encouraging the gold farmers to continue their activities. However, although you are seeing a lot, this does not mean that the macroers have to be in-game for a certain period of time in order for them to be detected - particularly 6 hours. They'll have probably been detected already, but Jagex have to review the evidence from a human's side. As I'm sure you're aware - this is to prevent innocent people getting banned. Now remember, Jagex receive tonnes of reports per day, so it takes some time for them to review the account.

 

 

 

Another reason why there are many macroers at the moment, is because when one is banned, another one is created almost instantly. This adds onto Jagex's workload.

 

 

 

As for the rest of your thread, I personally think you're wrong when you say that the minority of players are not part of the "Rule-breaking Community". In fact, I'd say that at least 90% of the RuneScape community as a whole are good, honest players. Within that 90% though, I'm including those who have broken a rule, but learn from their mistakes.

 

 

 

There have been a fair few rule-breakers lurking about recently though - most of them are macroers. Any other types of rule-breakers, you should report and move on, like you would when reporting those breaking Rule 7. Scammers, account traders, and all other offenders will realise eventually that it is their own time they're wasting - they will be dealt with.

Edit: Please don't censor evade, ~assassin Compared to Auto Rune

 

:lol:

What a comedian - especially on macros.

 

 

 

 

Wrong, Macroers these days use a scripting language called SCARSCRIPT to make massive scripts to do many things, these scripts are sometimes sold for runescape gold on some of the bigger communitys.

 

They insert this script into a program i will not name, and the macros go to work.

 

There is no such thing as scarscript, you're talking about a particular colour clicker, which uses an extended version of pascal. Since it's a colour clicker, it doesn't allow multiple accounts macroing, and the level 3-15's around yew trees etc are not using this macro.

 

 

 

Now my main point about this being related to jagex saying they have a program to detect macros is, the program is Un-Detectable

 

It has been tested, and the only way jagex could find out is if they macroed for more than 6 hours at a time, and after finding that out, the larger communitys spread the news, and now it can be used freely and safely.

 

 

 

Yes it can be undetectable, if the person is using a good script. Any good script are kept private so nobody is able to get their hands on an undetectable macro unless they can make a good script themselves.