RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Skarmory is hit 12.5% by Stealth Rock. Alot of pokemon get owned by it and little dont, and the ones that dont are overpowered and overused in the first place. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoli Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 DANG! Looks like i must use my bellyzard very carefully now. I hate this on new games, same hapened to Dragonite when Salamence came out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Charizard gets owned anyway. Lol. But dragonite still owns I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 [hide=Poll]Totodile ftw, idk why anyone would choose Chikorita considering the first gym is flying lol.[/hide] Stealth rock is pretty epic, but I don't get why some people would use suicide leads to ensure the rock is up :| Skarmory + Uxie w/ Yawn + Stealth Rock is epic. Forces a lot of switches. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Stealth rock is [bleep]ed. Admit it Zaaps. But geodude, a pokemon most people would catch at the start of the game absolutely rapes Gym #1. Blaziken was rather useless in RSE in comparison to Swampert or Sceptile gym-wise, but damn Blaziken owned. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I chose Blaziken first, but it seemed easier with Swampert. Stealth rock is good, it's really useful. Lol I guess Geodude would work, but all it can really do is take hits. What will it know? Tackle? EDIT: Most annoying Pokemon ever for me has to be Rotom :| ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Both Swampert and Blaziken were good for me. Stealth rock is good. IT'S TOO GOOD. It's 50% damage on a switch in and it takes 1 turn to set up. :| Geodude learns rock throw at like lv13 or something. Which is a measly 10 levels from what level its usually caught at. Most annoying = Rotom?? What are you on about? I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 It's just the way I build my teams. I always end up with an extremely annoying Rotom weakness that none of my pokemon can deal with. Plus Rotom can take 5 different forms which all have a different elemental move, so not only is it Ghost/electric + immune to Ground, but it's also got ANOTHER elemental move which most likely covers a few good counters. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Blaziken was rather useless in RSE in comparison to Swampert or Sceptile gym-wise, but damn Blaziken owned. I took "Blaziken" first time, and haven't re-started yet. I'm planning to start again using one of the others today or tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 It's just the way I build my teams. I always end up with an extremely annoying Rotom weakness that none of my pokemon can deal with. Plus Rotom can take 5 different forms which all have a different elemental move, so not only is it Ghost/electric + immune to Ground, but it's also got ANOTHER elemental move which most likely covers a few good counters. Rotom is frail. Rotom is slow. Rotom is weak. Rotom is fail ;p I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Pretty high def/spec attack/spec def + only 2 weaknesses is not weak. Speed isn't bad either. Not amazing, but for its defense, its really good speed. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom Crappy health Less than avg def/sp. def Average speed Crappy attack Average sp. atk. Gengar kills Rotom. 1hko shadow ball? I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom Crappy health Less than avg def/sp. def Average speed Crappy attack Average sp. atk. Gengar kills Rotom. 1hko shadow ball? Yeah, but look at its transformations, not the original form. 107 def, 105 Spattack, 107 spdefense, 86 speed + extra elemental move Everything has a weakness, but I never have a Gengar on my team :x I don't really like Gengar, too frail for a sweeper imo and lacks a set-up move. I'd take an Azelf over a Gengar for that role any day, only 5 less base Special attack, huge regular attack, more defenses, faster, and can use Nasty Plot. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 The whole idea of a sweeper is zilch defence full attack. :roll: Most are frail. So use Azelf to shadow ball a Rotom, it should win. Find the smogon link for its 'transformation' for me o.o I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I like having sweepers with decent def, anything 70 or above. Sometimes it might only have a 2HKO on a pokemon, so you need to have to take a hit. Plus any sweeper that needs to set up (Azelf, Lucario, etc.) should have decent defense or sleeper support. Can't put Shadow Ball in, it gives poorer type coverage than the other moves, so it ends up doing more harm than good. I might just end up using Tyranitar or something instead of Salamence, since it's the easiest solution. Rotom-C (Grass based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-c Rotom-F (Ice based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-f Rotom-H (Fire based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-h Rotom-S (Air based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-s Rotom-W (Water based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-w All of the transformations are better than the original form. You also get to learn Leaf storm/Blizzard/Overheat/Air slash/Hydro Pump, respectively, which can handle a lot of counters. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I like having sweepers with decent def, anything 70 or above. Sometimes it might only have a 2HKO on a pokemon, so you need to have to take a hit. Plus any sweeper that needs to set up (Azelf, Lucario, etc.) should have decent defense or sleeper support. Can't put Shadow Ball in, it gives poorer type coverage than the other moves, so it ends up doing more harm than good. I might just end up using Tyranitar or something instead of Salamence, since it's the easiest solution. Rotom-C (Grass based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-c Rotom-F (Ice based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-f Rotom-H (Fire based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-h Rotom-S (Air based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-s Rotom-W (Water based): http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-w All of the transformations are better than the original form. You also get to learn Leaf storm/Blizzard/Overheat/Air slash/Hydro Pump, respectively, which can handle a lot of counters. Wow. Didnt know their stats were so good. Well that's a change. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemeja Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Stealth rock is [bleep]. Admit it Zaaps. But geodude, a pokemon most people would catch at the start of the game absolutely rapes Gym #1. Blaziken was rather useless in RSE in comparison to Swampert or Sceptile gym-wise, but damn Blaziken owned. Whaaat? After the first gym my Blazekin would 1-2 hit every gym leader's pokemon! But maybe that's because I only trained Blazekin. Blazekin could beat 2 of the Elite Four by itself and in R/S, also the champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Blaziken still isnt as powerful as Swampert, massive tank and strong. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hmmm, I've been looking at quite a few forums lately... Is there any real point in breeding pokemon yourself anymore, seeing as you can probably find a hacker who will give you a max IV shiny [anything] for free? Thats really annoying me as of late :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hmmm, I've been looking at quite a few forums lately... Is there any real point in breeding pokemon yourself anymore, seeing as you can probably find a hacker who will give you a max IV shiny [anything] for free? Thats really annoying me as of late :| The Fun Factor? :twss: But practically, if you can get one that easily I'd say no. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hmmm, I've been looking at quite a few forums lately... Is there any real point in breeding pokemon yourself anymore, seeing as you can probably find a hacker who will give you a max IV shiny [anything] for free? Thats really annoying me as of late :| The Fun Factor? :twss: But practically, if you can get one that easily I'd say no. Pity. Guess I need to start looking for some reliable hackers then. One thing though: BREEDING IS NOT FUN, GETTING GOOD IVS CAN TAKE WEEKS :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Speaking of hacking and breeding, you should try to get a Sableye or Spiritomb with Wonder Guard, lol. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Marowak with pure power. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Marowak with pure power. Why a Marowak? ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Marowak with pure power. Why a Marowak? I just wanna know if its already average attack, doubled with its club to make MONSTROUS attack would stack with pure power. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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