New Runescape Review.

[obidiah]

I feel this review is misleading in that it should say that you are reviewing Runescape free to play version at the very top.

 

Members and free are very different beasts. The members quests are a lot more fun and there is so much more to do in members that it feels far less grindy and much more indepth

 

I'd say that the free version is much less than 30% of the game these days.

 

 

 

Though I'm quite surprised you'd subject yourself to 12 hours of game play a week for 2 years if you only think it's gameplay is worth 3/10 and that you find so simple that you doubt any more money is worth spending on it.

 

12 hours for 2 years is 1248 hours - thats a lot more hours than you can get out of a lot of the single player shop bought games.

 

 

 

I am also quite shocked think that if you think that platform is irrelevant. Have you seen the standards that other review sites go by?

 

A hand held game can get pretty good reviews while having fairly poor graphics - because that is what is standard on those platforms.

 

Maybe the language is written in isn't so relevant, but That Runescape can be played through a browser is very relevant to a lot of peoples game playing habits - you can simply log into the game and play it from anywhere with an internet connection without having to wait hours for a download.

 

Browser based really is a different platform to ordinary PC in my opinion.

 

 

 

I also think that there is a little inconsistency in your graphics ratings in that you acknowledge that Runescape is fairly old and that graphics are kept a bit more basic so that they can run on most PCs - but then give it a 3/10 anyway.

 

Then in your review of Doom you say that's old, but the graphics are good for it's time and give it a 7/10.

 

I'm sorry but I think Dooms graphics are way worse than Runescape graphics.

 

 

 

I would also suggest that one month after you've finally got bored of a game that you have been playing for 2 years is probably a time when you're feeling most negative about a game and thus not necessarily the best time to be writing a neutral review.

[Peronix]

I fail to see how not enjoying the game suddenly makes my review a pile of cabbage?

 

 

 

Further more, F2P, in itself, is a game. I can write a review about that - Around the same amount of money a month, could unlock XBox Live for me, which allows me to play unlimited games online. For a game with the simplicity of Runescape, I doubt any of my money is worth it.

 

 

 

I am entitled to write my own reviews - I am entitled to my own opinions. I can dislike the community, trading system, battle system, or whatnot to whatever degree I want.

 

 

 

Moderators, please lock. It's just attracting flame. Clearly you can't have a adult conversation around here, without childish comments such as: "PHAIL DIS REVIEW IS SO OUTTA ORDER" (One of the comments I've just had to delete off the comment system on my site).

 

 

 

I expected more from Tip.it, I really did. Clearly, the average IQ here, is not much higher than that of the official Runescape forums.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh I guess we're just a little peeved that just about every RS "Review" has been about f2p. Which is basically a demo. That's like playing WoW's 2-week trial and judging the entire game based on the limited experience of that.

 

 

 

And then as I pointed out you had false information in your review. Maybe not intentionally, but it sure as hell doesn't make you look like a decent critic when you can't even get your facts straight.

[WingedFish]

A few mistakes you made...

 

 

 

"...the whole game is played with just your mouse."

 

You can also chat with friends (with the keyboard!), which is an integral part of the MMO aspect of the game.

 

 

 

"The goal of Runescape is to complete the quests that are scattered at random points throughout the world."

 

Or skill... Go PKing, play some of the several dozen minigames, form a clan, get a group together and go monster hunting... It's shallow to just define one goal, because you make it sound like there isn't much else to do other than grind skills to meet quest requirements (although to be fair, that's basically all you can do with f2p).

 

 

 

"...the Runescape economy would collapse due to lack of supply of F2P items such as normal Rune Essence, Yew logs, Lobsters, and Air Runes."

 

98% of serious runecrafters don't use normal essence, the member's yew trees are always crowded, lobsters are often power fished for exp in both premium and nonmembers, and because of level restrictions, everybody has to start out making air runes. They're also a staple rune for most spells which makes them a bulk item.

 

 

 

If you want to give a higher score, you should really consider getting a membership and playing some minigames with friends... And IMO gameplay > graphics, but that's just me :

[Hidhaeg]

A few mistakes you made...

 

 

 

"...the whole game is played with just your mouse."

 

You can also chat with friends (with the keyboard!), which is an integral part of the MMO aspect of the game.

 

 

 

However, the keyboard is not needed to play the game - which is the point I was trying to make.

 

 

 

"The goal of Runescape is to complete the quests that are scattered at random points throughout the world."

 

Or skill... Go PKing, play some of the several dozen minigames, form a clan, get a group together and go monster hunting... It's shallow to just define one goal, because you make it sound like there isn't much else to do other than grind skills to meet quest requirements (although to be fair, that's basically all you can do with f2p).

 

I forgot to mention Minigames - granted, however, I did mention skilling as a goal. See the quite in my last post, in case you missed it in the initial review.

 

 

 

"...the Runescape economy would collapse due to lack of supply of F2P items such as normal Rune Essence, Yew logs, Lobsters, and Air Runes."

 

98% of serious runecrafters don't use normal essence, the member's yew trees are always crowded, lobsters are often power fished for exp in both premium and nonmembers, and because of level restrictions, everybody has to start out making air runes. They're also a staple rune for most spells which makes them a bulk item.

 

Perhaps collapse is the wrong word - but prices would increase dramatically, because Yews, Lobsters, and Air Runes are F2P'ers main source of income. If this was suddenly cut from the game - prices for the items would increase dramatically, causes an imbalance in the game.

 

 

 

If you want to give a higher score, you should really consider getting a membership and playing some minigames with friends... And IMO gameplay > graphics, but that's just me :

 

 

 

Yes, but as F2P is advertised as a game in itself, I decided to write a review for this. Some of you don't seem to understand - it's "Free to Play", meaning it's a game, but for free. It feels more like a demo, though. A Demo, and a F2P Game are two separate things.

 

 

 

 

 

Regardless, thank you for a mature response.

[LaserDude333]

I expected more from Tip.it, I really did. Clearly, the average IQ here, is not much higher than that of the official Runescape forums.

 

Because we point out your flaws?

[Hidhaeg]

I expected more from Tip.it, I really did. Clearly, the average IQ here, is not much higher than that of the official Runescape forums.

 

Because we point out your flaws?

 

 

 

Pointing out flaws is fine. Downright rudeness is not fine, however.

 

 

 

Well thanks Sean Hannity... but what qualifies you to be a video game critic when you are neither an avid player or professional reviewer?

 

 

 

For someone who has 3 skills ranked to write a review on the game as a whole is kinda slanderous to me...

 

fail

 

I gave the review a 2/10. Write a review on a game you have played to its utmost ability, rather than play a very limited portion of one and review the entirety of it.

 

Summary of Review:

 

 

 

- I don't care how hard it is to make graphics in Java

 

- I haven't played enough to enjoy the game

 

- I can give a good review of something I've barely played

 

 

 

So the review gets FAIL/10.

 

 

 

 

 

The list goes on.

 

 

 

Some of the responses were good, however, and I will take in the advice for next time, but rudeness just makes you seem immature.

 

 

 

I wasn't sure about the 200+ quests for Members, I wasn't too sure how to check - my proof-reader changed it, after I sent him the copy to upload.

[dippymister]

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A few mistakes you made...

 

 

 

"...the whole game is played with just your mouse."

 

You can also chat with friends (with the keyboard!), which is an integral part of the MMO aspect of the game.

 

 

 

However, the keyboard is not needed to play the game - which is the point I was trying to make.

 

 

 

Ya, you're pretty much right here. But honestly, why does it matter that you only use your mouse? It seems to be working out fine for 200,000+ other people. (just guessing on the numbers)

 

 

 

"The goal of Runescape is to complete the quests that are scattered at random points throughout the world."

 

Or skill... Go PKing, play some of the several dozen minigames, form a clan, get a group together and go monster hunting... It's shallow to just define one goal, because you make it sound like there isn't much else to do other than grind skills to meet quest requirements (although to be fair, that's basically all you can do with f2p).

 

I forgot to mention Minigames - granted, however, I did mention skilling as a goal. See the quite in my last post, in case you missed it in the initial review.

 

 

 

Yes, but you're still making it seem like the most important goal is to complete all the quests, which is so far from the truth. You say that some people choose to raise their skills to the max after they've done all the quests. Once again, you're making it seem like quests are a first priority. The goal of Runescape is whatever you make it, whether it be to finish all the quests, get a certain amount of money, get 99 in a skill, get some reward from a minigame, whatever.

 

 

 

"...the Runescape economy would collapse due to lack of supply of F2P items such as normal Rune Essence, Yew logs, Lobsters, and Air Runes."

 

98% of serious runecrafters don't use normal essence, the member's yew trees are always crowded, lobsters are often power fished for exp in both premium and nonmembers, and because of level restrictions, everybody has to start out making air runes. They're also a staple rune for most spells which makes them a bulk item.

 

Perhaps collapse is the wrong word - but prices would increase dramatically, because Yews, Lobsters, and Air Runes are F2P'ers main source of income. If this was suddenly cut from the game - prices for the items would increase dramatically, causes an imbalance in the game.

 

 

 

I don't really see what this has to do with the rating of the gameplay, but whatever...

 

 

 

If you want to give a higher score, you should really consider getting a membership and playing some minigames with friends... And IMO gameplay > graphics, but that's just me :

 

 

 

Yes, but as F2P is advertised as a game in itself, I decided to write a review for this. Some of you don't seem to understand - it's "Free to Play", meaning it's a game, but for free. It feels more like a demo, though. A Demo, and a F2P Game are two separate things.

 

 

 

I can't believe you could think this. That's like going and getting the Battlefield: Bad Company demo off the internet for PS3, and then writing a whole review on how much it sucks when you've only played about 5% of the whole game. I don't know why anyone in their right mind would write a review on Runescape when they aren't even a member. Maybe change it to a review on Free to Play Runescape.

 

 

 

 

 

Regardless, thank you for a mature response.

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[Hidhaeg]

I wrote a review for F2P, because it's advertised as being a video game, regardless whether got all the features or not.

 

 

 

The argument some of you are putting forward is like:

 

 

 

'You can't write a review for WoW unless you've tried all of the weapons in the game, because if you anything below *such and such an armour* or haven't paid another $40 to unlock this map, you haven't played it'.

 

 

 

Free to Play IS a full Runescape game. Members just get 'extra' components to add to it.

 

 

 

At least, that's my view.

[highlanders]

The graphics are bad, the sounds are bad, the community is bad, but the content is outstanding.

[dippymister]

I wrote a review for F2P, because it's advertised as being a video game, regardless whether got all the features or not.

 

 

 

The argument some of you are putting forward is like:

 

 

 

'You can't write a review for WoW unless you've tried all of the weapons in the game, because if you anything below *such and such an armour* or haven't paid another $40 to unlock this map, you haven't played it'.

 

 

 

Free to Play IS a full Runescape game. Members just get 'extra' components to add to it.

 

 

 

At least, that's my view.

 

 

 

Yes, but you're saying that you're writing a review for Runescape. If it's just for f2p, then you should title it a Review for F2p Runescape or something.

[Nenga]

I wrote a review for F2P, because it's advertised as being a video game, regardless whether got all the features or not.

 

 

 

The argument some of you are putting forward is like:

 

 

 

'You can't write a review for WoW unless you've tried all of the weapons in the game, because if you anything below *such and such an armour* or haven't paid another $40 to unlock this map, you haven't played it'.

 

 

 

Free to Play IS a full Runescape game. Members just get 'extra' components to add to it.

 

 

 

At least, that's my view.

 

No f2p is supposed to be a demo for p2p. F2p is not the full game.

[mrsmarty1]

I expected more from Tip.it, I really did. Clearly, the average IQ here, is not much higher than that of the official Runescape forums.

 

Because we point out your flaws?

 

 

 

Pointing out flaws is fine. Downright rudeness is not fine, however.

 

 

 

Well thanks Sean Hannity... but what qualifies you to be a video game critic when you are neither an avid player or professional reviewer?

 

 

 

For someone who has 3 skills ranked to write a review on the game as a whole is kinda slanderous to me...

 

fail

 

I gave the review a 2/10. Write a review on a game you have played to its utmost ability, rather than play a very limited portion of one and review the entirety of it.

 

Summary of Review:

 

 

 

- I don't care how hard it is to make graphics in Java

 

- I haven't played enough to enjoy the game

 

- I can give a good review of something I've barely played

 

 

 

So the review gets FAIL/10.

 

 

 

 

 

The list goes on.

 

 

 

Some of the responses were good, however, and I will take in the advice for next time, but rudeness just makes you seem immature.

 

 

 

I wasn't sure about the 200+ quests for Members, I wasn't too sure how to check - my proof-reader changed it, after I sent him the copy to upload.

 

 

 

They are criticizing your HORRIBLE review, and they sure have enough knowledge of here and runescape. I would suggest you either:

 

 

 

1. play more than 15 minutes of the game, before you write a review.

 

 

 

2. get higher skills instead of your 3 low ranked skills.

 

 

 

or 3. Get members.

 

 

 

you have NO right to come on Tip it, to just CRITICIZE THE [cabbage] out of Runescape and expect to get loved here.

[xSxqPowerx]

Terrible review.

 

Like you and everyone has already said, you don't even really play.

 

Secondly, there's just a lot of incorrect info.

 

And as far as unbiased goes, there's a lot of opinions, especially with the ratings.

 

Also... why the hell would we want a review of the game here? This is a Runescape community, we've obviously already made up our own opinions on the game.

[Hidhaeg]

Well, I'm sorry to hear you didn't find the review fair - I should have expected that Tip.It is a fan-boy haven.

 

 

 

The only incorrect fact I could see, was about the 200 quests, which I, myself, did not write.

 

 

 

The review was a collaborative effort from several gamers - mainly the review staff on the website. They decided it was about time I wrote a review, so I typed up all of our opinions into it.

 

 

 

Why do people keep bringing up 'play the game for more then 15 minutes'? I have been playing for two years, just not to the basement-dweller extent of not having a life. Believe it or not, I did have school to go to, I will soon have a job, and I have a girlfriend who I have to see. I don't have time to put 12+ hours into the a game a day.

 

 

 

Further more - what kind of reviewer would actually play 1000+ hours on a game that they're planning to review? That'd make them an avid fan, and would automatically make the review unfair.

 

 

 

Yes, I am a Runescape fan - but I tried to maintain a sense of neutrality in the review.

 

 

 

Delete or lock thread please.

[highlanders]

Don't get upset hidhaeg, a lot of players here are fanboys, they always act like this whenever somebody questions the flawlessness of their favorite game. Nothing personal. Give them a couple of minutes to let their brains get around the idea Rs might not be perfect. Don't worry, not all of us have gotten our brains eaten by Jagex yet :P

[Hidhaeg]

Don't get upset hidhaeg, a lot of players here are fanboys, they always act like this whenever somebody questions the flawlessness of their favorite game. Nothing personal. Give them a couple of minutes to let their brains get around the idea Rs might not be perfect. Don't worry, not all of us have gotten our brains eaten by Jagex yet :P

 

 

 

Glad to see a fellow Runescape fan that can admit, Runescape has a few flaws.

 

 

 

I don't get it. What's the big deal - the review is just 5/6 gamer's opinions on the game. Why are people getting so upset?

[assassin_696]

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