Summoning - What, when?

[Dachef]

Hey Guys

 

 

 

Is there some sort of guide, which pouches to make at a certain lvl for the specific charm type?

 

I'm now 67 and don't know which "blue"-pouches to make, if i should change from bloated leeches to stranger plants and so on, and so on...

 

Does anybody have a chart of that type?

 

 

 

Sincerely

 

Dachef Pf

[RayOxide]

Basically if you dont want to hold onto your charms forever just make the highest level things you can.

 

And at 67 you'd just WANT a level so make strangers.

 

 

 

I think.

 

 

 

Kents guide isnt exactly the best.

[Dachef]

Basically if you dont want to hold onto your charms forever just make the highest level things you can.

 

And at 67 you'd just WANT a level so make strangers.

 

 

 

I think.

 

 

 

Kents guide isnt exactly the best.

 

 

 

Kent's guide? Don't know it...

 

I just want efficient training. So not the most expensive and good speed..

[RayOxide]

Kents guide -> In Archive of Wisdom.

 

 

 

It might help but I find it kinda lame for the person who just wants summoining up.

 

 

 

He tells you to hold onto charms, he basically also says its only if you REALLY want 99 fast.

[The_Fray]

Hold on to your blue charms!!! Seriously dont use up your blue charms right now, you will regret it a lot later. Use kent's guide it is useful not only if you want 99 summoning, just check it out, it is in the AOW.

[SanNo1]

Kents guide -> In Archive of Wisdom.

 

 

 

It might help but I find it kinda lame for the person who just wants summoining up.

 

 

 

He tells you to hold onto charms, he basically also says its only if you REALLY want 99 fast.

 

 

 

actually it's the most efficient method to hold onto your charms, using blues early on is a big waste.

 

I guess that when u are 67 you want that 1 lvl fast, so you could go ahead and use some blues, but if you plan on going to a higher lvl, hold on to them.

[RayOxide]

Kents guide is fail.

 

Seriously.

 

 

 

Zomg here here dont use any fam until you can use karamthaurhuhuahtuha overlord cause all rest under it are fail!11

[starclimber]

Kents guide is fail.

 

Seriously.

 

 

 

Zomg here here dont use any fam until you can use karamthaurhuhuahtuha overlord cause all rest under it are fail!11

 

 

 

Is there any experience to back this up? 57 summ isn't really solid.

[RayOxide]

Experience doesnt matter.

 

 

 

It's called investigationing ;)

 

 

 

And do you think Kent had any real experience when he wrote the guide?

 

He doesnt even have any info for things under level 55.

 

REAL nice guide.

 

I dont trust people like him anyway

[Inuashakent]

Ray, why are you ALWAYS bashing me? Whenever I give advice, all my guides, when I'm correcting you in SSB...

 

 

 

Anyways,

 

 

 

Kents guide is fail.

 

Seriously.

 

 

 

Zomg here here dont use any fam until you can use karamthaurhuhuahtuha overlord cause all rest under it are fail!11

 

I DO HAVE FRIGGEN TESTS. Do you honestly I'm going to write it just because I feel like it? Read the description, anything under gives too low xp to be worthwhile, clicking the whistle and all. And secondly, the lowest is Spirit Kyatt. R-E-A-D.

 

 

 

Basically if you dont want to hold onto your charms forever just make the highest level things you can.

 

And at 67 you'd just WANT a level so make strangers.

 

 

 

I think.

 

 

 

Kents guide isnt exactly the best.

 

Oh, yeah, my guide isn't exactly the best because you didn't read it. I have 2 methods to level up. One for the common, and one for the saver. Did you even read it? Hell, there is NO other Summoning guides. Sure, there are some not on this fansite, but theirs is like a mini of mine.

 

 

 

Heres a quote of my guide, showing you that there are 2 methods to level up. If you're talking about me saying to only use Gold charms at early levels even in casual, that's because everybody should. If you don't, I don't see why you would be reading a guide.

 

[hide=How to obtain 99 Summoning - The casual way]Level 1-4

 

 

 

Start out by doing the quest Wolf whistle.

 

 

 

Level 4-16

 

 

 

Gold Charms: These are where your main xp will come from. Make Dreadfowl pouches.

 

Green Charms:Save these for later use.

 

Crimson Charms:Save these for later use.

 

Blue Charms:Save these for later use.

 

 

 

*It takes 266 Dreadfowl pouches to get 16. You get 275 gold charms at the end of the Wolf whistle.

 

 

 

Level 16-28

 

 

 

Gold Charms:Well, you still stuck with using gold charms. Now you will be making Granite crabs.

 

Green Charms:Save these for later use.

 

Crimson Charms:Save these for later use.

 

Blue Charms:Save these for later use.

 

 

 

* You need 374 Granite crabs to get 28.

 

 

 

Level 28-32

 

 

 

Gold Charms:You can use your Gold charms to make more Granite crabs if you wish.

 

Green Charms:Make compost mounds, these are great xp.

 

Crimson Charms:Save these for later use.

 

Blue Charms:Save these for later use.

 

 

 

* You need 114 compost mounds.

 

* Granite crabs are pretty slow xp and Green charms are pretty easy to come by so you really don't need to make Granite crabs.

 

 

 

Level 32-49

 

 

 

Gold Charms:If possible make Bull ant, but I personally wouldn't bother obtaining the Marigolds. Save the golds.

 

Green Charms:Make Beavers at 33, then Macaw at level 41 and Magpies at level 48.

 

Crimson Charms:Make Honeybadgers until 46, then Pyrelords.

 

Blue Charms:You CAN make Bronze minotaurs, but I would highly go against that. Wait until at least level 55.

 

 

 

Level 49-78

 

 

 

 

 

Gold Charms:Keep making those terrorbirds!

 

Green Charms:Ibis are nice, but when you can switch to making Fruit bats. You can also make Bunyips to use for yourself, they are VERY useful.

 

Crimson Charms:Bloated leech until 64, where you will make Stranger plant. Their secondary's are easy to come by and they're fast xp, as well as cost efficient. Granite lobsters at 74.

 

Blue Charms:Spirit jelly from 55-56, Steel minotaurs from 56-57, Spirit Kyatt/Ghaark from 57-58. If you want money, you can keep making Spirit kyatt/ghaark instead of Karamthuhlu overlords. Mithril minotaurs at 66. Obsidian golems at 73, but don't make adamant minotaurs, they're too expensive.

 

 

 

I'll remind you all that saving blue charms will allow you to gain much more xp in the long run.

 

 

 

 

 

Level 78+

 

 

 

Gold Charms:Spirit terrorbirds. Easy to obtain seconds.

 

Green Charms:Make Giant ents until you are lv 88 and you can make Spirit stallions for your own use. However, willow branches can be a pain to get, so fruit bat's are a great choice.

 

Crimson Charms:Make Swamp titans at 85 until lv 92, at which point you should switch to Wolpertinger. Make Iron titans at 95 and Pack yaks at 96.

 

Blue Charms:Titans are GREAT for training. You should use these here, but if you have extreme patience, you can wait for a geyser titan.

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[hide=How to obtain 99 Summoning - The advanced way]There has been many discussions of what is the "best" method to train summoning. Rock lobsters are too expensive to be practical. Many people say camping at Waterfiends, but they dont give one thing. Even if you max combat, there will be something missing...

 

 

 

The reason I keep this under hidden is most people won't have the patience to obtain this level. Also, you must save your charms for a very long time for this method to work.

 

 

 

Method of charms - Slayer

 

 

 

Why? This is very simple. This gives a pretty balanced amount of charms (which is required for this method to work), and you will be able to unlock several monsters with high-end drops and charms. Also, you will gain slayer xp, which is always nice.

 

 

 

Well, after much consideration and much requests, I have decided to put how to level 4-68 efficiently into the guide. However, I would only recommend that you train via this method (4-68 the efficient way) if you are extremely high combat, and can finish slayer tasks without the use of a Bunyip, or a Guthans, as that is considerably slower than the Whip. If you have to use Guthans for your hp, your wasting too much time and should obtain a Bunyip faster. (This means 90+ combat stats)

 

 

 

Level 4-68

 

 

 

Gold Charms: Make Dreadfowl from 4-16, then Granite Crabs from 16-52. From 52, Make Spirit terrobirds until 68.

 

Green Charms: Well, save these.

 

Crimson Charms: Save

 

Blue Charms: Save

 

 

 

Level 68-85

 

 

 

Gold Charms: There are two choices here. Spirit terrorbirds, and Barker toads. However, I would do Spirit terrorbirds.

 

Green Charms: Again, two choices. Forge regents and Fruit bats. Ruby harvests are hard to obtain, and they're pretty hard to buy at the GE. Willow branches are too expensive, along with water orbs to be worth the extra 10-20 xp. So Fruit bats all the way!

 

Crimson Charms:This is the most important part of this guide. SAVE THESE!!!

 

Blue Charms: Also very important. SAVE THESE!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Level 85-92

 

 

 

Gold Charms: Nothing new, keep making terrorbirds.

 

Green Charms:

 

Keep making what you always did, and make unicorns at 88.

 

Crimson Charms: Save these!

 

Blue Charms:

 

Make Geyser titans at 89.

 

 

 

Level 92+

 

 

 

Gold Charms: Nothing new, keep making terrorbirds.

 

Green Charms: Who doesn't like making ponies? :lol:

 

Crimson Charms: Make wolpertingers, then Iron titans at 95, then Pack yak at 96.

 

Blue Charms:Make Geyser titans at 89.

 

 

 

Remember: This is for people seriously going for 99 only!

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[RayOxide]

Hehehehe. Someones a bit cranky.

 

You know we never agree get over it.

 

Btw you're always bashing me all the time too so dw.

 

And if you make guides expect to be talked about and dissed alot.

 

 

 

Your guide only got AoW'd cause it was the only one, (still is) thats on this forum.

 

 

 

Yes you have tests. For people who can use them.

 

 

 

In a level 40s eyes, a level 30-40 familiar can hit good.

 

Just cause someones a lower level doesnt mean their opinion has to be scrapped and uncared for.

 

Also, the lowest, should be Spirit Jelly. It's actually WORTHY to be in a guide.

 

 

 

And your casual way isnt a REAL casual way its still telling people to just wait and wait and wait! Casual means doing what you want when you want how you want (which basically means you shouldnt put a "casual" way into a guide, although I credit you for giving a second way to train the thing.)

 

IMO, if you're "casually" training it, just use the friggen charms.

 

 

 

And for me reading?

 

Dude I tell you to read all the time.

 

I find I read a bit more than you.

 

The only thing that matters to you when it comes to reading is people reading YOUR text.

[ToxicDuck]

And your casual way isnt a REAL casual way its still telling people to just wait and wait and wait! Casual means doing what you want when you want how you want (which basically means you shouldnt put a "casual" way into a guide, although I credit you for giving a second way to train the thing.)

 

IMO, if you're "casually" training it, just use the friggen charms.

 

 

 

I only agree with this bit of what you said, I do think it's a slight oversight on Kent's part. But overall his guide is very good, and being the only large scale one that I find easy to follow, I'd recommend it to most people.

 

 

 

Anyway this thread isn't here to discuss the values of his guide, it's to help the original poster.

 

 

 

Dachef, hold on to your blue charms for later use. You don't have to hold onto them forever, but if you feel like you can wait a bit longer, do so.

 

 

 

At your level I would continue to make bloated leeches, since their 2nd is cheaper to obtain. A bagged plant costs 1.1k at the moment, while raw beef is 63gp. The shards for bloated leeches cost 2925gp, while the shards for a stranger plant costs 3200gp, and the exp comes in at 215xp for bloated leeches and 281xp for stranger plants. So you're getting 66xp less per pouch while saving 1312gp per pouch.

 

 

 

If my maths are correct Stranger Plants cost 15.2gp per xp, while bloated leeches are 13.8gp per xp. I think. So, yes, I would stick to Leeches. Also, if some of my other maths is correct, at level 67 you can't trade Stranger Plant pouches for shards. Guess you could alch them but it's another factor to add in. Hope any of this helps.

 

 

 

And I know Kent will unravel my poor maths somehow :lol:

[Inuashakent]

I also somewhat agree with that part. However, for a lowly 40, they would be very happy to know that a Void Spinner is extremely useful... not that it replaces combat familiars, of course. But for a lv 40, I wouldn't even recommend him to hunt for charms, but to powertrain for the first few levels.

 

 

 

If you would have put it that way, I would have understood.

 

 

 

Your guide only got AoW'd cause it was the only one, (still is) thats on this forum.

 

Maybe because there's no need for another one...? There was a couple a while back, but they just died. But if you're just casually training, I don't really see a need for a guide. Just a little common sense on money vs xp.

 

 

 

And for me reading?

 

Dude I tell you to read all the time.

 

I find I read a bit more than you.

 

The only thing that matters to you when it comes to reading is people reading YOUR text.

 

Indeed. Also, it could but the validity of the information... If you read all of it, why did you say I only give the "insane" method of training? I also give a casual method, which normal Runescape would follow. If their really just go with the flow, again, why would you even need a guide?

[ilovecardj]

Kents guide ftw. Follow it and understand it ;)

[SacredFlam3s]

kents guide is the best! if your so good ray oxide, make your own guide...