Stealing Creation Rant

[Orly_Owl]

The armour isnt overpowered, its far from it.

 

 

 

Mage armour apparently gives no actual mage attack, except the weapon.

 

Same for melee and range.

 

And the defence is lolwat low.

 

I still see mages hitting 20+ through the range armour,

 

I still see rangers hitting 18+ through the melee armour,

 

I still see melee'rs hitting through all armour speedily and fast,

 

 

 

And thats with protection on.

[compfreak847]

The armour isnt overpowered, its far from it.

 

 

 

Mage armour apparently gives no actual mage attack, except the weapon.

 

Same for melee and range.

 

And the defence is lolwat low.

 

I still see mages hitting 20+ through the range armour,

 

I still see rangers hitting 18+ through the melee armour,

 

I still see melee'rs hitting through all armour speedily and fast,

 

 

 

And thats with protection on.

 

*ahem*. Ahrims = +30 magic for the top, +22 for the bottom. The defence in my setup is similar to the defence of a veracs setup, and much greater then rune. Meleers will be out hit by mage nearly 5 to 1, as the meleer is very rarely able to attack, is attacking at 1/2 speed and -35% attack, and is being healed on and poisoned for the majority of the time. Magic is overpowered, and IMO should be nerfed.

[Orly_Owl]

Magic is overpowered but costly.

 

 

 

The point is SC, where everything is overpowered

[Promise]

1 iteming in a way can be an extremely useful tactic when used with magic. With a level 5 dagger Im able to hit 35s with peity. Running into fog, stealing runes from mages as they pass by, and blitzing them has gotten me over 26 kills with only a dagger in some games. From drops a lone, I get about 40k-50k per game.

 

 

 

And because you don't spend half the game making your food and armor, I can be ready within the first few minutes and kill most of my opponents while they're still gathering clay. More kills = more points, plus the clay drop =less time wasted.

 

 

 

I love it. :

[Orly_Owl]

You just proved how overpowered a dagger is.

 

 

 

While proving how overpowered thieving is.

 

:|

[Promise]

I have 99 strength, I expect to hit that high. Thieving is gambling, I rarely ever get runes, or rarely even be successful. I probably just made it sound better than it really is, but I'm rarely ever successful with thieving and rather get their runes as a drop for more points. If the mage is just standing around, then just go for it and who knows.

[compfreak847]

You just proved how overpowered a dagger is.

 

 

 

While proving how overpowered thieving is.

 

:|

 

Definitions of "overpowered"

 

overpower, overmaster, overwhelm (overcome by superior force)

 

To render imperceptible by means of greater strength, intensity etc.

 

If everything is overpowered, nothing is overpowered. It just means it's easy to die, and thus DANGEROUS. Exactly what Jagex was aiming for.

[Orly_Owl]

Even with 99 str, and piety, 35s with a dagger slightly faster than a normal one, hitting through armour and prayer even without piety = gtfo

 

Lol

 

 

 

@Comp

 

Why the [bleep] do you have to be right all the time in a technical stance?

 

Its overpowered, no denying it and no trying to be a logical [wagon].

[compfreak847]

Even with 99 str, and piety, 35s with a dagger slightly faster than a normal one, hitting through armour and prayer even without piety = gtfo

 

Lol

 

 

 

@Comp

 

Why the [bleep] do you have to be right all the time in a technical stance?

 

Its overpowered, no denying it and no trying to be a logical [wagon].

 

I just proved it wasn't overpowered, why do people have to admit to being wrong then try and force their point? -.-

 

 

 

As I said before, all combat styles are very powerful in SC, making it easy to score kills - much the opposite from typic PVP, which goes something like 0-0-0-0-0-15-0-0 *run to safety*. However, Jagex did a great balancing job with them, making the game fairly fun and enjoyable, with none of the combat styles having an obvious advantage and being overpowered.

[Orly_Owl]

I didnt MEAN to admit i was wrong cause im not wrong, you're just an [wagon] who thinks hes right all the time, adds in some bogus figures and tells everyone else they're wrong.

 

I think I've played enough SC in others territory to tell you that the weapons in SC = overpowered

[Promise]

Wouldn't all attack styles be considered "Overpowered?" Making them all level each other out?

 

 

 

Melee has the owningness dagger, mages can make huge quantities of runes in very little time, and rangers can make hundreds of arrows in such little time, which are also as strong as rune arrows.

 

 

 

I doubt the game is the flaw, I love it. You probably limit yourself to certain attack styles, making you an easier target.

[Orly_Owl]

Yes they are all overpowered, but technically dont level eachother out, due to the fact that SC is highly into the combat triangle..

 

Mage -> Melee -> Range -> Mage, and..

 

there are alot of Mages and rangers.

 

 

 

Over half the amount of people in world 164 are pointfarmers.

 

(On blue anyway), and usually on Red theres alot of high levels who come around killing people.

 

Myself, I dont usually fight until I have 30k+ points, and sometimes I still dont, but when im not fighting I have armour, a dagger for defence, and I still get destroyed. I dont die, but I get very close to it.

[Promise]

It all comes back to your tactic. Why waste time getting 30k points when you could be using that time to get 30k points killing and looting the other team? It's what they do and it seem to works. Are you ranting that the game is hard or that you're tactics suck? Sorry if you find what I said rude, only way I can stress what I'm pointing out.

[Orly_Owl]

Promise, you're saying that pointfarming the fastest way for points is a sucky tactic?

 

How the hell does gathering points make my point less valid?

 

 

 

Weapons in this game are overpowered.

 

Dont try to say they arent because I make arrows for 30k points.

 

 

 

-.-

[compfreak847]

I didnt MEAN to admit i was wrong cause im not wrong, you're just an [wagon] who thinks hes right all the time, adds in some bogus figures and tells everyone else they're wrong.

 

I think I've played enough SC in others territory to tell you that the weapons in SC = overpowered

 

Shall we go back to the definition of overpowered? It means that it is unbalanced due to being better then every other of its kind. Is melee the best combat style in SC? Mabye, depends on how you play. Is range? Mabye. Is Mage? Mabye. Each one has its ups and downs, but none has any clear advantage, leaving them equally powerful, NOT overpowered. Powerful? Yes. Overpowered? No. Pray tell when the dictionary definition has become 'bogus figures', perhaps I missed the memo.

[X3EN]

What I hate in sc is combat level 131+s who have 99 thieving, ancients and use the c5 dagger. First of all, they isolate all lvl 5 clay, then extract it all, get 5 class summon, armor, potions, food, stock up (incl familiar inventory) and then a few go to camp near the enemy team base and others search the map and kill every enemy.

 

It's simple: unless you got enough 131+s and sacred clay 5 stuff, 5 players attacking one such player (equipped w class 3 or 4) will at most force him to use blood barrage. After that, he justs slaughters everyone with the dagger (since his accuracy is nearly 95% and he often hits 20-30+).

 

After such tactic is applied, you can just stand at the base or try the retribution (still a waste, because they have sooooo much stocked up).

[Orly_Owl]

Yes.

 

Overpowered.

 

Too strong.

 

One can fight the other but it doesnt mean it isnt overpowered.

 

Jesus christ

 

 

 

And wtf is pray tell.

[Promise]

You first try to argue that the weapons are over powered, then tell me a story about how the red team is attacking the blue team and how you almost died, then try to argue that because I said your tactic sucks that I'm making your point(s) less valid.

 

 

 

You're telling me all this to prove that weapons are over powered. They're over powered but I'm just telling you that you can over power an over powered weapon with tactic; blitz and range from safety? If you're trying to make a point, don't go telling me a story about how you make arrows, tell me a fighting story how that even while ancienting and range you lost to a guy using only a dagger? It would be obvious that the person with the dagger was obviously had better tactic.

 

 

 

There's no point in whining about an item is better than an other weapon if all your doing is point farming. Your point farming, your inventory is full of clay and all you have is a dagger, don't expect to beat someone who's barraging you.

[compfreak847]

Yes.

 

Overpowered.

 

Too strong.

 

One can fight the other but it doesnt mean it isnt overpowered.

 

Jesus christ

 

 

 

And wtf is pray tell.

 

To which combat style, exactly, are you referring to as overpowered? Which one do you think should be nerfed?

 

 

 

I personally think that they are all fairly equal, meaning they are fine as they are.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

What I hate in sc is combat level 131+s who have 99 thieving, ancients and use the c5 dagger. First of all, they isolate all lvl 5 clay, then extract it all, get 5 class summon, armor, potions, food, stock up (incl familiar inventory) and then a few go to camp near the enemy team base and others search the map and kill every enemy.

 

It's simple: unless you got enough 131+s and sacred clay 5 stuff, 5 players attacking one such player (equipped w class 3 or 4) will at most force him to use blood barrage. After that, he justs slaughters everyone with the dagger (since his accuracy is nearly 95% and he often hits 20-30+).

 

After such tactic is applied, you can just stand at the base or try the retribution (still a waste, because they have sooooo much stocked up).

 

That's a reasonable tactic. To begin with, I'm no level 131, but I do a similar thing: Gather/isolate as much level-4 clay as I can, get some gear, then attack the enemy towards Endgame (within the last 2 minutes of the game). Retribution won't work as well against one person since more times than not, they're in kamikaze mode with a dagger or scimitar (or me, with a warhammer :P).

 

 

 

In that case, it's more about tactic than balance, since anyone with a level-4+ dagger can prove a showstopper against an enemy's gathering.

[Orly_Owl]

@Comp get it through your head, they are ALL overpowered. But they cant change magic because thats the power it is in normal RS, so it would be range and melee.

[compfreak847]

@Comp get it through your head, they are ALL overpowered. But they cant change magic because thats the power it is in normal RS, so it would be range and melee.

 

So it's a fair fight between a mager, a meleer, and a ranger? Explain the overpowered part to me, please.

[Orly_Owl]

Stop acting so [bleep]ing smart when you cant even notice not every single person is fighting, you idiot.

[Promise]

Stop acting so [bleep] smart when you cant even notice not every single person is fighting, you idiot.

 

 

 

I really hope you're not referring to your self. You've made just about one offensive remark towards him in about every debate I've seen between you two. It's always along the lines of, "Stop acting like such a smart [wagon]. "

 

 

 

If you feel that you're right and can't put up with him, just ignore him. Its much better than gaining a reputation for insulting a person then continue to insist you're right.

[Orly_Owl]

Yeah well if you havent noticed, in almost every post (I've seen) of his, he tries his best to prove people wrong or be right all the time.

 

 

 

Wont be on for another hour so dont think i left cause im wrong my computer is overheating :ohnoes: