Legacy Kingdom defeats Lethality

[Kris1520]

we had no multiclanners and Forum mods confirmed it again,as well as before.And you have 2 multiclanners for the least,a flame and out of bounds.Lethality let the mods decide,don't post here anymore

[thesungod]

Sadly, I'm on my Wii right now, so I physically cannot explain all of our "Multi-clanners"

 

 

 

All-________ clans should be ignored.

 

 

 

________ Lists Should be ignored

 

 

 

Team ________ Should be ignored

 

 

 

Pest Control clans should be ignored

 

 

 

Fake Runeheads should be ignored. (I.E. Blaze's CHEIF HAT unit) (Slumber party) (Patty cakes)

 

 

 

And, check their rank. Kris 1520 and Rapid Death5 are listed as ALLIES on some runehead. Allies, not members.

 

 

 

Regardless of that fact, LK attacked first. That's bad right there. You came in with 2 (debatable) non clanners. One of them, was a last minuete add.

 

 

 

and we "called" high levels? Patderek has been our warlord ofr about, 2 months? King Yeufi join about, 3 months ago? Jessy joined about 1 month ago, and celebrated his 99 defence party with us. Nightmare (My recruit) joined about 3 weeks ago. Signed up on our forums about 9 days ago. Sdhe came to several clan practices BEFORE this war. Any other "high" levels we "called?"

 

 

 

 

 

(Excuse my Grammer, the Wii does not have a Spellcheck optoin"

 

 

 

As for bounds, you broke it. Sozz, that's bounds, multi-clanners, Non-clanners, and Flaming. 4 Strikes, and your out? Need a fifth?

[MikeyMontana]

Okay here's the explanation from LK:

 

 

 

1. First the "out of bounds proof" of nillek - That isnt proof as he didnt go past the trees. He was lagging and he misclicked in wrong direction. I dont know if you have noticed but there is a camera glitch on RS right now which happens when you lag which might have caused nillek to go that direction. Also no one was piling nillek

 

 

 

 

Scenario A:

 

Bob has that lagg, and click to go all the way to the lava lake with no rocks or trees. Yet, no one is piling him. Is he out of bounds? He's not tree hugging and no one is piling, But yes he is out of bounds.

 

 

 

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Here is the original out of bounds picture, the red lines indicate the trees. You can see he is well past the line and in the middle of a group of rocks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll let the TWR mods figure everything out from here..

[AncientGuardians]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. Goku697. We have tried to get him out of Darkside but the leader wont remove him. We have tried to teach Goku how to remove himself but he doesnt know how.. again our fault, we accept this but he does not participate in any DS activities and is solely in LK (except for the RUnehead part)

 

 

 

5. Patplays. We only found out he was a multiclanner after the war, and when we checked him 2 days before the war, he wasnt on those lists.. again it is our fault and we have kicked him out of clan

 

 

 

Of course if you use common sense and be reasonable, you'll realize we only had one troublemaker which was patplays and I dont think that he had such an ENORMOUS impact on the outcome.. since he wasnt following piles or anything.. he decided he would try his best to get LK disqualified (as you have shown in your pics)..

 

 

 

And as harnam listed the people above, you also had multiclanners.. we dont usually point out broken rules as we happily take whatever challenge comes to us, but since you decided to dispute the war...

 

 

 

This might become ANOTHER null war for us.. since both sides broke rules.

 

 

 

Ok if Goku Couldent not get him Name off the DS ML then he should not have been in the war..... you can have excuses of him not comming off the ML..... However, if you knew he should have NOT been in the war..

 

 

 

And As for PAT he was a SNIPER!! Which he Killed 4 of our 21 members and you think he didn't have an effect? I mean if you agree it was youall's fault for him then it should be punished,not just him but the clan..

 

 

 

And it was not like the DF VS LK war which LK had a clear win.... This fight LTH was down 8 men and still pulled in within only 6 members of LK's left and May I add one of them is Patplays...

 

 

 

LTH on the other hand did NOT break any rules.... No muilty clanners...... no rules broken in the war... no flames... not even a single word was spoken other then piles and falling in. I mean if this was another blowout game then I dont think LTH would bother with this, however it was a such a close war, and the fact of going out of bounds and having ANY muilty clanning is just unacceptable in a war like this.

 

 

 

And remember that DF and LK already had one of the biggest agruements..... you would think LK would try to do better in the future wars and NOT have any conflicts like this..... but I guess it anit happening..

 

 

 

LTH never had ANY problems with ANY other clan in ANY rules broken or muilty clans.... Seems kind odd that for some reason a war LK will always arguements.....

 

 

 

Mods........ take a closer look.... and LK...... really if you are having clan problems don't bring it into TWR.... if you can't then I suggest quit TWR for while untill you can have a flawless war with another clan..

[lordaron8]

There isn't any "glitch".If so how come it affected only him,why didn't it affect everyone else? Also we resloved this before in which the officials recognised those same 5 aren't multi clanners since they only are in fun/team/all members forever clans.So as proved before they aren't multi clanners

 

 

 

From what I recall some one from your clan at the very begining of the war ran out of bounds for no apparent reason. Which would lead me to suspect that the glitch happened on him too. Like nillek neither of these had any effect on the war so we should most likely most that aside.

[AncientGuardians]

There isn't any "glitch".If so how come it affected only him,why didn't it affect everyone else? Also we resloved this before in which the officials recognised those same 5 aren't multi clanners since they only are in fun/team/all members forever clans.So as proved before they aren't multi clanners

 

 

 

From what I recall some one from your clan at the very begining of the war ran out of bounds for no apparent reason. Which would lead me to suspect that the glitch happened on him too. Like nillek neither of these had any effect on the war so we should most likely most that aside.

 

 

 

That was before the war even started..... and he is the leader of LTH and was checking if every member in both clans are in BOUNDS so we can start the war smoothly.... Second he was there to check LK's member list and taking PICs of LK's oppontents.... but even while doing that he WAS ATTACKED by LK even tho LK already Knows that LTH is attacking and Lk is defending..... If your members can't follow LK's orders then that's not any of OTHER clans problems but LKs...

 

 

 

You can say sorry and stuff like that and LTH may accept your apologes, however, that's does not Make Lk's mistake any less wrong.

[thesungod]

Ok, MULTI CALNNERS FAIL.

 

 

 

Let me post ALL of Lth's "Multi Calnners" (Gimme some time, the Wii takes a lot fo time to do this...)

 

 

 

Capu14:

 

TEAM Blaze. TEAM!!! Does not count...

 

 

 

King Yeufi:

 

 

 

ALL Moratorium EVER

 

Blazes Chef hat UNIT

 

PEST CONTROL NATION LIST (If you counted this one, you have an I.Q equal to that of a squirel)

 

Pk TEAM X

 

 

 

Patderek:

 

 

 

ALL Bounty Hunters EVER

 

Patty cakes

 

 

 

Nightmare:

 

 

 

ALL Destiny Soilders EVER

 

Blonde United (This is likle a nation list, Listed as MISC. Not clan)

 

Exodus FUTURE APPLICANT (this means, she acks the requirments to join, and is simply stating that she IS WILLING to join them, if she could)

 

Nutzforpc3 (This is listed as "Pest control clan")

 

Order of Cherry Blossum (Wow, look at ranks. They all have "fan" in them. She's ranked "Special Suskuri Fan")

 

Slumber Parties Incorporated

 

 

 

Jessy Uppal:

 

 

 

ALL godz of Wild EVER

 

ALL Saradomin Dragons EVER

 

 

 

If there's one I missed, plase post it. I'll explain it. I go over Lethality's runehead with a fine toothed comb. Maybe someon in LK should too.

 

 

 

Don't fight me unless you do your homework.

 

 

 

So... (as a recap) Nilek Glitched out and went bounds? Ok, sure, there's also that glitch that made part of your clan flame? Oh, and that weird thingy, that called some MULTI-CLANNERS to your fight. Oh, and the non Runehead people? Did they glitch as well? Hot damn, this is the most glitchy clan out there!

 

 

 

(blitzoarrows, th3 Sun G0d, and Ipwnuwitrnag should take credit for the pictues and commentary posted, in Kris's original post. :lol: )

 

 

 

And, lmfao, did he say that Patplays had NO outcome on the war? He killed King Yeufi, he sniped, he hit me, he tanked our binds. I'm sozz, but I have about 5 (?) pics of him hitting King, IN A ROW. I can make into a .gif file if I was on a computer, but, alas, I am not. I'll post it if you want me to show Pat "Helping" your clan. And, wtf? a lv 124 SNIPING did "Not affect the outcome of the war?"

 

 

 

EDIT: Crossed out all that are not marked "Official Clan List" Those that are not are labeled "Official Clan List"

[harnam]

accoudning to me it count

 

when ti says offialclanlist

[thesungod]

Aight. That makes no sense though. Some runeheads are FAKE or made for fun. I.E. Slumber Party Inc. Some are fan clubs. I.E. Order of Cherry Blossom. But you cannot count teams, lists, units, pc clans, etc. That's just idiotic. Half of your clan would be down for multi'ing. All ______ Ever cannot be counted either. B/c their not "official" by any means. Regardless, by your "rules" you still have poeple in "Neggas clan" nutzforpc7, Soul Takerz, and godz of Wild. While all of our "accused" multi calnners are in "Slumber Pary Inc." "Team Blaze" "Patty Cakes" And you're avoiding the fact we caught two non-runehead people in the fight. That is non debatable. :shame:

[MikeyMontana]

accoudning to me it count

 

when ti says offialclanlist

 

 

 

 

 

So are you confessing?

 

 

 

cuz here's a nice pic you should look at.

 

 

 

 

 

[Clay_More12]

0wned Harnam! gj LTH :lol:

[thesungod]

Editing this post so I don't look like an idiot for a double post. :D

 

 

 

Also, no one was pileing Nilek...

 

 

 

[is reffering to when Nilek was out of bounds] So, according to your rules, I can run to the portal, and run back, if no one is attacking me? I can chill in the trees while people fight?

 

 

 

Lvl_3_Wit_9m is in a PEST CONTROL CLAN which you can see from the name

 

 

 

According to me it count

 

when ti says officialclanlist

 

 

 

Aight... One says no for official clan, one says yes...

 

 

 

And I am the main one who does runehead. I am the one up at 1 in the morning, adding people (NOT the day of the war, but at least 3 days beforehand) I aws also the guy to find your multi clanners. If I, one guy, can maintain/check 2 full runeheads, there is no excuse for you to "misplace" two members.

 

 

 

What's kinda mysterious is why you only added ONE of the two non-runehead to your runehead after the fight. Why not add both?

 

 

 

And, before you can say "they didn't affect the outcome of the war" I'll say this. We Ko'd Yokie men, right. But we could have just as easily Ko'd aomeone else. Patplays was a 124 SNIPER. Uncledenn1s was around until the last ten people (By my guesses) and would have dealt a lot of damage by then. Lvl_3_Wit_9m tanked us. We could have used that time to kill another person instead. Milek fought, so you can't say he did nothing. Everyone who enters the fight is under the control of your clan. You could have kicked them, if you knew they were not on a runehead. You should have kicked them if they were multi-claners as well. It should not fall down to other people to tell you that someone in your clan is multi-clanning.

 

 

 

(Once again, I am on my Wii, so, if I have misquoted you (There is no copy-and-paste function) please tell me, and I will fix it)

[Guthorm]

Looks like Lth won this war, gj lth. :)

[Amateurnoob]

accoudning to me it count

 

when ti says offialclanlist

 

 

 

 

 

Just wanted to make sure this post was here when the Mod comes to check this out... Like harnam said all officials are officials... therefore Nutz (a pc clan with an official ranking is an official clan). Walked yourself into that corner... just wanted to point that out. Sad thing is... same clan different day. Don't think this will ever change as we have known LK from the start... Same old stuff. #-o Gf LTH you deserve the win. :thumbsup:

[Uffan5]

In my opinion all the problems would be solved if LK would sort all of this out beforehand, instead of forcing the opposing clan to point it all out. This isn't a daycare center, the clans should be able the follow the rules set without making excuses for everything and forcing heated disputes like these. I'm sure this will result in another null or re-do if agreed upon because of the inability of LK to manage their clan.

[Amateurnoob]

In my opinion all the problems would be solved if LK would sort all of this out beforehand, instead of forcing the opposing clan to point it all out. This isn't a daycare center, the clans should be able the follow the rules set without making excuses for everything and forcing heated disputes like these. I'm sure this will result in another null or re-do if agreed upon because of the inability of LK to manage their clan.

 

 

 

i personally have not seen in any proof that LTH did anything wrong... therefore LK's "evidence" is very very weak, as well as poorly written. Also what is the point in warring over and over again if you are granted a war that is nulled, redo, or disqualified... this isn't the first war this has happened on. I personally would rather fight a war and lose and receive our 50 points then fight a war that we know we could lose, cheat and get disqualified and lose points for it or have it nulled and receive nothing... it sadly does not make any sense to me... can someone please point out the logic :roll:

[Uffan5]

In my opinion all the problems would be solved if LK would sort all of this out beforehand, instead of forcing the opposing clan to point it all out. This isn't a daycare center, the clans should be able the follow the rules set without making excuses for everything and forcing heated disputes like these. I'm sure this will result in another null or re-do if agreed upon because of the inability of LK to manage their clan.

 

 

 

i personally have not seen in any proof that LTH did anything wrong... therefore LK's "evidence" is very very weak, as well as poorly written. Also what is the point in warring over and over again if you are granted a war that is nulled, redo, or disqualified... this isn't the first war this has happened on. I personally would rather fight a war and lose and receive our 50 points then fight a war that we know we could lose, cheat and get disqualified and lose points for it or have it nulled and receive nothing... it sadly does not make any sense to me... can someone please point out the logic :roll:

 

=D>

[knight0735]

Thank you lk members for helping represent lk during this but this dispute is over. Either the leaders of both clans can work this out themselves or a mod can handle it. There isnt any point to an argument between ranks that cant really influence the outcome. Also thanks for your opinions amateurnoob and uffan however i would like to point out that you are making alot of assumptions about lk based only on your experiences with us. Which of course have not been good considering your own inability to follow the rules and then try to use these same rules against us. No clan is perfect and df is far from it..you guys have made alot of "non logical" decisions in the past (such as flaming us, having a dozen df members spam our clan chat, amateur in particular getting into fites with our leaders in matters that dont concern him....). Your biased opinion will not change the outcome of this dispute but given the circumstances I cant even find a logical reason why I am even having to talk to df about a war they werent even in? Not only that but you use what basic recruits say and do (even thought they dont represent lk) as a way to tell everyone that this is "the same lk" implying this always happens when clans war us? Perhaps df would like to talk with a real lk leader instead of acting all high over our basic members and our event managers? Once again df is wasting our time (and particularly mine). In our last war you brought 30 members or so to the fight where you knew the only real chance of winning was by d/q. I didnt know a clan could go so low and then accuse lk of being dishonorable and breaking rules.And now you actively seek to misrepresent lk as a clan that doesnt care about rules or what we do. But that is a different argument. To sum it all up what df is doing is uncalled for plain and simple. Next time you have a dispute maybe lk should get involved in a place we dont belong and start saying all sorts of things that arent true? But we wont because we are not the clan you tell people we are and we dont try to make life harder for other clans. In the mean time, lethality we have banned some of the offenders who broke rules and i wont deny that we broke some but know that your complaints are having an effect and we are working to resolve some of the disgraceful behavior some of our members had during the war. However I am not interested in a long drawn out dispute where we both accuse each other of multi clanning, out of bounds, flaming etc. We can have a future rematch or let a mod handle this whichever you prefer. And know that whatever anyone else says lk respects lethality and the rules of our wars. Lk is going through some changes and as a result not all of our events with other clans go smoothly. Regardless of who "officially" wins we want to say good fight and good luck. I want to clarify that lk will accept the outcome of this dispute without further complaint and any lk members who cause further trouble on this forum or in runescape will be punished.

[AncientGuardians]

Thank you lk members for helping represent lk during this but this dispute is over. Either the leaders of both clans can work this out themselves or a mod can handle it. There isnt any point to an argument between ranks that cant really influence the outcome. Also thanks for your opinions amateurnoob and uffan however i would like to point out that you are making alot of assumptions about lk based only on your experiences with us. Which of course have not been good considering your own inability to follow the rules and then try to use these same rules against us. No clan is perfect and df is far from it..you guys have made alot of "non logical" decisions in the past (such as flaming us, having a dozen df members spam our clan chat, amateur in particular getting into fites with our leaders in matters that dont concern him....). Your biased opinion will not change the outcome of this dispute but given the circumstances I cant even find a logical reason why I am even having to talk to df about a war they werent even in? Not only that but you use what basic recruits say and do (even thought they dont represent lk) as a way to tell everyone that this is "the same lk" implying this always happens when clans war us? Perhaps df would like to talk with a real lk leader instead of acting all high over our basic members and our event managers? Once again df is wasting our time (and particularly mine). In our last war you brought 30 members or so to the fight where you knew the only real chance of winning was by d/q. I didnt know a clan could go so low and then accuse lk of being dishonorable and breaking rules.And now you actively seek to misrepresent lk as a clan that doesnt care about rules or what we do. But that is a different argument. To sum it all up what df is doing is uncalled for plain and simple. Next time you have a dispute maybe lk should get involved in a place we dont belong and start saying all sorts of things that arent true? But we wont because we are not the clan you tell people we are and we dont try to make life harder for other clans. In the mean time, lethality we have banned some of the offenders who broke rules and i wont deny that we broke some but know that your complaints are having an effect and we are working to resolve some of the disgraceful behavior some of our members had during the war. However I am not interested in a long drawn out dispute where we both accuse each other of multi clanning, out of bounds, flaming etc. We can have a future rematch or let a mod handle this whichever you prefer. And know that whatever anyone else says lk respects lethality and the rules of our wars. Lk is going through some changes and as a result not all of our events with other clans go smoothly. Regardless of who "officially" wins we want to say good fight and good luck. I want to clarify that lk will accept the outcome of this dispute without further complaint and any lk members who cause further trouble on this forum or in runescape will be punished.

 

 

 

Agreed, I think another full out dispute will only lead to worse options. I believe over all this war was very fun for both clans. LK is going to change and I think it's fair that TWR give them the chance to improve. Iam sure after a few changes and leadership decission Lk will be better. As for this war the out come will be from the Mods. No clan whats to lose, however, I do not wish for this to be something that will end up being clans leaving TWR. The more clans we have the better and fun we all get.

[Clay_More12]

I think LTH win, as rules are rules... if you break them your D/Q and if the match is nulled or rm then theres no point of rules

[Uffan5]

Your biased opinion will not change the outcome of this dispute but given the circumstances I cant even find a logical reason why I am even having to talk to df about a war they werent even in?

 

Nope, it's not biased at all, i mean look at the evidence put forth from this war and past ;).

[knight0735]

Thank you chester for saying the exact same thing you have been saying the entire time. And uffan i would contend that df is biased considering am8 has related many of his past experiences with lk w/e those may be to what is happening now. And it would appear he has some kind of grudge against lk. If this is the case 1 could argue that since am8 is a leader of df that df is being biased and unhelpful...but ofc every1 is entitled to post their opinions so we will see how much more am8 will be able to illustrate my point.

[UltraPrimal]

Here's a pic a member sent me.. I'm not sure if it was at beginning of war before attacking or not.. if it is, my apologies

 

 

 

TWR mod will decide the rest.. Knight ignore DF's comments.. they are not the TWR mods

 

 

 

EDIT: I had to take pic off.. but you'll see it quoted in below posts

[Kris1520]

At the point of 5 members I immediately lost connection so the numbers went from 6-4.Also at the point of 5/6 you did not have that many members alive.This could not have been our war.

[UltraPrimal]

We also had a couple of members lose connection... Me and another member

 

 

 

Though not high levels, there still might have been a bigger difference