AncientGuardians

Good job Divine Forces

These new clans are really intreasting... :thumbup:

High combat levels, great experience, many loyal members, great organization and the cocky attitude will make many clans fail..... and also a Runescape Elite clan..... It will be a intresting day to see who's gona step up. 8-)

Soild win Mori..... Surprised Mori anit up to top 10 yet..... I am not sure, correct me if Ima wrong but is Mori undefeated ? Anyways, great win hope to see some of the Vids if possible. :lol:

Overall it was a good war, LTH had "many" Disconnects so maybe next time they would re-think warring in that world. TDM had great binds and good snipers and with a little luck pulled a great win, good upset. The out bounds from both clans really didn't effect the outcome of the war so let that not be a distraction to the good times. Great Job to TDM and better luck to LTH in the future. =D>

The war really was just fun but Iam impressed by the pull of both clans..... maybe a little more organization from TK will do good next time... Hope to see more fights like this... :thumbsup:

As expected, it wasn't a hard decission to make. Please be reborn as better and more strict clan LK. -.-

About time. If you need more evdiance Iam sure LTH will be happy to provide you with pic.

Ancient Guardian, the flaw in your argument is this: people will be people and at the end of the day you cannot predict ANYTHING they will do. In real life we have a legal system set up to 'discourage' dangerous actions. On Rs there is NO way to genuinely keep complete control of your members, sabotouers are patient people who can worm their way into clans and then embarass, humiliate and destroy the clan. Quite honestly I don't think any better of Lk for it, but (A) they might already have rebuked or dismissed that member, (B)how can they genuinely KNOW that a member is going to flame? And © how can they stop someone once he starts? Yes it does, I notice how in some instances people read into the rules too literally, while in other cases they say "no, but it's not in that way, it means in ANOTHER way". A prime example: How can Lth make claims that The LK member was out of bounds, no exceptions, and then justify that their members "were only out for 5 seconds"? Furthermore, how can you look at THAT rule in a literal sense, but as soon as it comes to the Memberlist rule you can go "A but no, because that's a different KIND of memberlist" the simple fact is you CANNOT, it's simply ridiculous. Either rules should be looked at literally OR with exceptions specified before hand. I know I'm taking the Lk side most of the time here, but everyone seems to be attacking them because of past actions. From viewing ALL other topics however, it is apparent that Lk have attempted to reform and change. I say you need to lighten up and all stop the hating. They deserve at least ONE more chance. Prejudice is the scourge of society which leads to communication breakdowns and in turn hatred, try to take a less biased approach next time you approach a subject involving a clan you dis-like ;) P.s. Anceint, there is a strong correlation between people who use green pens and/or 4 or more consecutive pieces of punctuation :L No see what some clans doesn't understand is that " yes you can make mistakes! But your are accountable for your clan member's acton!" There are many clans who have not HAD ANY trouble following the TWR rules and when they break them they get punished. Yes people will be people, and rules will still be rules, in some cases there ARE NO second chance! And Second chance is not given but earned! LK has NOT done that! After all the argueing and stressing from them and DF, it should have been some what better. And also yes it's unfair that " somehow" LK just have the worse luck getting members who drag them down and make them lose wars, I personally feel sorry, but in the end NOT my clan! Answer: tough LUCK! Get use to it! If you can't get good members to join you do the right thing then recruit better! Not anyone els's fault that LK can't get members who can't follow orders! Stuborness is not a downfall but rather view differently by different people. Learn that there is NO Sympathy in everyone, just the few. But the SIMPLE Fact is, YOU can't not, others CAN! And the rules states as OFFICAL clans, not OFFICAL teams or PC or others. And when it comes down to it, it's still a matter of how people look at it. The LK out of bounds did NOT effect too much on the war it self, however, by staying out of BOUNDS for 20+ secs and NOT 5 is a RULE broken! We are not making up our own rules, it's clearly in TWR! And yes if LTH wants to they can cancle that rule out, but how do you explain the other ones? Attacking LTH leader knowing they cant attack first! Haveing Muilty clanners before the war even started! Editing the war vid so it will make LK look like they did Nothing wrong????? The fact that LK ammited of their members breaking rules and muilty clanning is the first strike! LTH never ammited to ANYTHING because there is NOTHING to hide! WHY edit the video if you KNOW you didn't do anything wrong? Hate is something you have live with! No matter if it's in RS or real life! Some people will like you! Some will hate you! And prejudice will always be with US no matter what! Speaking for my self here, prejudice explains the world where NOT everything is equal! And that goes the same for people as well! We will always love and hate. I will always point out the positive and not the negative of clans I like! And viceversa I will ALWAYS try to find flaws of clans I dont like, it's MY human nature! I protect the people and friends that I like. This is no every clans get a cookie whether they did good or bad! The strong lives on and the weak better get stronger or die out... I enjoy seeing clans rise to the top or clans drop dead to the bottom of low..

Lolz what happened Lgz???!!! Bad luck that day..... hope you guys at lease had fun! :thumbsup:

Lolz,,, BK taken it easy.......

wow................. kicked from their own CC.......... Kicked... not asked to leave but kicked because their own members wont listen to them......... it was bad fight overall, Iam sure LH didnt want a 6 min war....... Please.... no more.....

ARe you serious??/ You cant keep YOUR OWN MEMBERS from flamming or breaking the rules???? You call that an excuse???? That's like saying : It's not our fault that OUR members can't follow rules or anything that we say. Dude, if you knew the members that are breaking rules and not listing to you, then why even KEEP them as members lol! There is no evidence of LTH EVER had Muilt Clanners and NO it does not take hours tp figure out if your a muilty clanners or not! ALL LTH members are pure LTH and that's it! LTH already said if you got questions about their members ask AWAY! AND LK leaders : Please dont go so low as to you guys wont amit that you guys attacked Joe [ the leader of LTH who was checking the LK opts and tryed to take Pics but couldent cuz SOME member cant follow orders.... ] ALL 29 of LK members saw that and even if it was a mistake you guys should at lease amit it instead of asking for proff... as a matter that if LK wants this to be ugly, the person that was with LK at the war [ I will NOT name him unless i have to] will testify that LK did made the mistake of attacking Joe. And it will be hard to even find 1 time hat LTH ever broken a TWR rule in the past, however, Iam sure everyone can think up a handfull of LKs. LK, dont let your members post lies on TWR. Iam not taken sides but if you let your members lie on here the truth will be told. :shame:

Agreed, I think another full out dispute will only lead to worse options. I believe over all this war was very fun for both clans. LK is going to change and I think it's fair that TWR give them the chance to improve. Iam sure after a few changes and leadership decission Lk will be better. As for this war the out come will be from the Mods. No clan whats to lose, however, I do not wish for this to be something that will end up being clans leaving TWR. The more clans we have the better and fun we all get.

Great war!..... dont see many 30+ wars going down soo close... good fight. :D