AncientGuardians

Good job Divine Forces

These new clans are really intreasting... :thumbup:

High combat levels, great experience, many loyal members, great organization and the cocky attitude will make many clans fail..... and also a Runescape Elite clan..... It will be a intresting day to see who's gona step up. 8-)

Soild win Mori..... Surprised Mori anit up to top 10 yet..... I am not sure, correct me if Ima wrong but is Mori undefeated ? Anyways, great win hope to see some of the Vids if possible. :lol:

Overall it was a good war, LTH had "many" Disconnects so maybe next time they would re-think warring in that world. TDM had great binds and good snipers and with a little luck pulled a great win, good upset. The out bounds from both clans really didn't effect the outcome of the war so let that not be a distraction to the good times. Great Job to TDM and better luck to LTH in the future. =D>

The war really was just fun but Iam impressed by the pull of both clans..... maybe a little more organization from TK will do good next time... Hope to see more fights like this... :thumbsup:

As expected, it wasn't a hard decission to make. Please be reborn as better and more strict clan LK. -.-

About time. If you need more evdiance Iam sure LTH will be happy to provide you with pic.

Ancient Guardian, the flaw in your argument is this: people will be people and at the end of the day you cannot predict ANYTHING they will do. In real life we have a legal system set up to 'discourage' dangerous actions. On Rs there is NO way to genuinely keep complete control of your members, sabotouers are patient people who can worm their way into clans and then embarass, humiliate and destroy the clan. Quite honestly I don't think any better of Lk for it, but (A) they might already have rebuked or dismissed that member, (B)how can they genuinely KNOW that a member is going to flame? And © how can they stop someone once he starts? Yes it does, I notice how in some instances people read into the rules too literally, while in other cases they say "no, but it's not in that way, it means in ANOTHER way". A prime example: How can Lth make claims that The LK member was out of bounds, no exceptions, and then justify that their members "were only out for 5 seconds"? Furthermore, how can you look at THAT rule in a literal sense, but as soon as it comes to the Memberlist rule you can go "A but no, because that's a different KIND of memberlist" the simple fact is you CANNOT, it's simply ridiculous. Either rules should be looked at literally OR with exceptions specified before hand. I know I'm taking the Lk side most of the time here, but everyone seems to be attacking them because of past actions. From viewing ALL other topics however, it is apparent that Lk have attempted to reform and change. I say you need to lighten up and all stop the hating. They deserve at least ONE more chance. Prejudice is the scourge of society which leads to communication breakdowns and in turn hatred, try to take a less biased approach next time you approach a subject involving a clan you dis-like ;) P.s. Anceint, there is a strong correlation between people who use green pens and/or 4 or more consecutive pieces of punctuation :L No see what some clans doesn't understand is that " yes you can make mistakes! But your are accountable for your clan member's acton!" There are many clans who have not HAD ANY trouble following the TWR rules and when they break them they get punished. Yes people will be people, and rules will still be rules, in some cases there ARE NO second chance! And Second chance is not given but earned! LK has NOT done that! After all the argueing and stressing from them and DF, it should have been some what better. And also yes it's unfair that " somehow" LK just have the worse luck getting members who drag them down and make them lose wars, I personally feel sorry, but in the end NOT my clan! Answer: tough LUCK! Get use to it! If you can't get good members to join you do the right thing then recruit better! Not anyone els's fault that LK can't get members who can't follow orders! Stuborness is not a downfall but rather view differently by different people. Learn that there is NO Sympathy in everyone, just the few. But the SIMPLE Fact is, YOU can't not, others CAN! And the rules states as OFFICAL clans, not OFFICAL teams or PC or others. And when it comes down to it, it's still a matter of how people look at it. The LK out of bounds did NOT effect too much on the war it self, however, by staying out of BOUNDS for 20+ secs and NOT 5 is a RULE broken! We are not making up our own rules, it's clearly in TWR! And yes if LTH wants to they can cancle that rule out, but how do you explain the other ones? Attacking LTH leader knowing they cant attack first! Haveing Muilty clanners before the war even started! Editing the war vid so it will make LK look like they did Nothing wrong????? The fact that LK ammited of their members breaking rules and muilty clanning is the first strike! LTH never ammited to ANYTHING because there is NOTHING to hide! WHY edit the video if you KNOW you didn't do anything wrong? Hate is something you have live with! No matter if it's in RS or real life! Some people will like you! Some will hate you! And prejudice will always be with US no matter what! Speaking for my self here, prejudice explains the world where NOT everything is equal! And that goes the same for people as well! We will always love and hate. I will always point out the positive and not the negative of clans I like! And viceversa I will ALWAYS try to find flaws of clans I dont like, it's MY human nature! I protect the people and friends that I like. This is no every clans get a cookie whether they did good or bad! The strong lives on and the weak better get stronger or die out... I enjoy seeing clans rise to the top or clans drop dead to the bottom of low..

Lolz what happened Lgz???!!! Bad luck that day..... hope you guys at lease had fun! :thumbsup:

Lolz,,, BK taken it easy.......

wow................. kicked from their own CC.......... Kicked... not asked to leave but kicked because their own members wont listen to them......... it was bad fight overall, Iam sure LH didnt want a 6 min war....... Please.... no more.....

ARe you serious??/ You cant keep YOUR OWN MEMBERS from flamming or breaking the rules???? You call that an excuse???? That's like saying : It's not our fault that OUR members can't follow rules or anything that we say. Dude, if you knew the members that are breaking rules and not listing to you, then why even KEEP them as members lol! There is no evidence of LTH EVER had Muilt Clanners and NO it does not take hours tp figure out if your a muilty clanners or not! ALL LTH members are pure LTH and that's it! LTH already said if you got questions about their members ask AWAY! AND LK leaders : Please dont go so low as to you guys wont amit that you guys attacked Joe [ the leader of LTH who was checking the LK opts and tryed to take Pics but couldent cuz SOME member cant follow orders.... ] ALL 29 of LK members saw that and even if it was a mistake you guys should at lease amit it instead of asking for proff... as a matter that if LK wants this to be ugly, the person that was with LK at the war [ I will NOT name him unless i have to] will testify that LK did made the mistake of attacking Joe. And it will be hard to even find 1 time hat LTH ever broken a TWR rule in the past, however, Iam sure everyone can think up a handfull of LKs. LK, dont let your members post lies on TWR. Iam not taken sides but if you let your members lie on here the truth will be told. :shame:

Agreed, I think another full out dispute will only lead to worse options. I believe over all this war was very fun for both clans. LK is going to change and I think it's fair that TWR give them the chance to improve. Iam sure after a few changes and leadership decission Lk will be better. As for this war the out come will be from the Mods. No clan whats to lose, however, I do not wish for this to be something that will end up being clans leaving TWR. The more clans we have the better and fun we all get.

Great war!..... dont see many 30+ wars going down soo close... good fight. :D

From what I recall some one from your clan at the very begining of the war ran out of bounds for no apparent reason. Which would lead me to suspect that the glitch happened on him too. Like nillek neither of these had any effect on the war so we should most likely most that aside. That was before the war even started..... and he is the leader of LTH and was checking if every member in both clans are in BOUNDS so we can start the war smoothly.... Second he was there to check LK's member list and taking PICs of LK's oppontents.... but even while doing that he WAS ATTACKED by LK even tho LK already Knows that LTH is attacking and Lk is defending..... If your members can't follow LK's orders then that's not any of OTHER clans problems but LKs... You can say sorry and stuff like that and LTH may accept your apologes, however, that's does not Make Lk's mistake any less wrong.

Ok if Goku Couldent not get him Name off the DS ML then he should not have been in the war..... you can have excuses of him not comming off the ML..... However, if you knew he should have NOT been in the war.. And As for PAT he was a SNIPER!! Which he Killed 4 of our 21 members and you think he didn't have an effect? I mean if you agree it was youall's fault for him then it should be punished,not just him but the clan.. And it was not like the DF VS LK war which LK had a clear win.... This fight LTH was down 8 men and still pulled in within only 6 members of LK's left and May I add one of them is Patplays... LTH on the other hand did NOT break any rules.... No muilty clanners...... no rules broken in the war... no flames... not even a single word was spoken other then piles and falling in. I mean if this was another blowout game then I dont think LTH would bother with this, however it was a such a close war, and the fact of going out of bounds and having ANY muilty clanning is just unacceptable in a war like this. And remember that DF and LK already had one of the biggest agruements..... you would think LK would try to do better in the future wars and NOT have any conflicts like this..... but I guess it anit happening.. LTH never had ANY problems with ANY other clan in ANY rules broken or muilty clans.... Seems kind odd that for some reason a war LK will always arguements..... Mods........ take a closer look.... and LK...... really if you are having clan problems don't bring it into TWR.... if you can't then I suggest quit TWR for while untill you can have a flawless war with another clan..

This is a good war to watch, intresting it turned out this way. Good luck to both. :shock:

We Ancient Guardians will withdraw from this event do to the fact of time confusion. Our members are vastly all over the world so getting 30 + members will be hard again and the deadline is the 14th so there will be no time. I wish the best of luck for Faith and them to win it all. Ty TCE of the chance to even pass the first round lol. Hope we can do this again in the future. Good luck to Faith, RBH, OW and all the other clans. King YufeI WC of Ancient Guardians.

Pshh, which clan are you? Our war with KR will be today too. Here are the set rules: -Friday, July 11, 4est/9gmt -Matching Ops -Malee binds only -Middle bounds -W90 We are the Ancient Guardians. The war with Faith are suppose to be in 30 min.

Our war with Faith will be the 11th 2 pm EST. Good luck to them and US. :?

This is AG. Sorry to F about the trouble. Our clan is going into some changes as well as new members applying. I have pre set the date of our war on the 10th however, Iam sure Faith has something to add or change so we be working things out. I come to an understanding that the deadline for the second war is not untill the 14th so we still have sometime left. :thumbsup:

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