Legacy Kingdom defeats Lethality

[thesungod]

Lk would like to see what?

 

 

 

And yes, we left bounds.

 

 

 

1. Our FI leader "glitched" as you said, out of bounds. YOU SAID there was a glitch that mad people do this, so you cannot complain.

 

 

 

2. It is edited right after that, and the video's proof should be nulled, as one can see part of the video was edited, the entire thing could have been.

 

 

 

(I will get striked in my clan for posting this)

[Kris1520]

Clarification about that picture I posted previously

 

 

 

 

 

 

Watch from 4:25-4:35 a bunch of LTH went past trees

 

 

 

 

 

Yea it was a misclick during the commess by the leader and he walked right back not breaking the 5 seconds.Unlike your member who stood out there for over 20 seconds which btw,congrats on editing out.

[AncientGuardians]

i thnk rice said it best. lk only has so much control over our members and we as rice pointed out we cant physically keep people from flaming or running out of bounds. there is evidence both clans had multi clanners. lk has worked to rectify this problem and i think we are making progress. watever the outcome lk accepts it

 

 

 

ARe you serious??/ You cant keep YOUR OWN MEMBERS from flamming or breaking the rules???? You call that an excuse???? That's like saying : It's not our fault that OUR members can't follow rules or anything that we say. Dude, if you knew the members that are breaking rules and not listing to you, then why even KEEP them as members lol! There is no evidence of LTH EVER had Muilt Clanners and NO it does not take hours tp figure out if your a muilty clanners or not! ALL LTH members are pure LTH and that's it! LTH already said if you got questions about their members ask AWAY!

 

 

 

AND LK leaders : Please dont go so low as to you guys wont amit that you guys attacked Joe [ the leader of LTH who was checking the LK opts and tryed to take Pics but couldent cuz SOME member cant follow orders.... ] ALL 29 of LK members saw that and even if it was a mistake you guys should at lease amit it instead of asking for proff... as a matter that if LK wants this to be ugly, the person that was with LK at the war [ I will NOT name him unless i have to] will testify that LK did made the mistake of attacking Joe. And it will be hard to even find 1 time hat LTH ever broken a TWR rule in the past, however, Iam sure everyone can think up a handfull of LKs.

 

 

 

LK, dont let your members post lies on TWR. Iam not taken sides but if you let your members lie on here the truth will be told. :shame:

[20Rice04]

Lols, the stuborness of both clans is their downfall. I predict this war is going to be completely nullified unless you can settle on something :P It's really ridiculous that it's just descended into claims of falicy and slander.

 

 

 

ARe you serious??/ You cant keep YOUR OWN MEMBERS from flamming or breaking the rules???? You call that an excuse???? That's like saying :It's not our fault that OUR members can't follow rules or anything that we say. Dude, if you knew the members that are breaking rules and not listing to you, then why even KEEP them as members lol!

 

 

 

Ancient Guardian, the flaw in your argument is this: people will be people and at the end of the day you cannot predict ANYTHING they will do. In real life we have a legal system set up to 'discourage' dangerous actions. On Rs there is NO way to genuinely keep complete control of your members, sabotouers are patient people who can worm their way into clans and then embarass, humiliate and destroy the clan. Quite honestly I don't think any better of Lk for it, but (A) they might already have rebuked or dismissed that member, (B)how can they genuinely KNOW that a member is going to flame? And © how can they stop someone once he starts?

 

 

 

and NO it does not take hours tp figure out if your a muilty clanners or not!

 

 

 

Yes it does, I notice how in some instances people read into the rules too literally, while in other cases they say "no, but it's not in that way, it means in ANOTHER way". A prime example:

 

 

 

How can Lth make claims that The LK member was out of bounds, no exceptions, and then justify that their members "were only out for 5 seconds"? Furthermore, how can you look at THAT rule in a literal sense, but as soon as it comes to the Memberlist rule you can go "A but no, because that's a different KIND of memberlist" the simple fact is you CANNOT, it's simply ridiculous. Either rules should be looked at literally OR with exceptions specified before hand.

 

 

 

I know I'm taking the Lk side most of the time here, but everyone seems to be attacking them because of past actions. From viewing ALL other topics however, it is apparent that Lk have attempted to reform and change. I say you need to lighten up and all stop the hating. They deserve at least ONE more chance. Prejudice is the scourge of society which leads to communication breakdowns and in turn hatred, try to take a less biased approach next time you approach a subject involving a clan you dis-like ;)

 

 

 

P.s. Anceint, there is a strong correlation between people who use green pens and/or 4 or more consecutive pieces of punctuation :L

[knight0735]

ancient i am not making excuses..yes our members flamed but lk cant control wat people do...we can only react to the situation which means that before we can get rid of someone they have to break a rules first..

[Clay_More12]

Thats why you "learn" them and include all of the rules on your forums as no flaming etc and im sure they won't

[Kris1520]

A misclick and standing and moving out of bounds is 2 different things.Also if our leader clicked follow instead and didn't notice when the guy died our leader would have run out of control possibly to the short distance out of bounds.

 

We did not go out of bounds with no one piling us and then our members don't edit it out of the video.

 

Also,if a Leader has no control over his clan that's not my problem.A flame is a flame and that's poor leadership if you step back and blame your member.All you have to do is say your member got a lil too excited and apologise but no.Downfall decided to stand for a clan in this situation me nor they give a [bleep] about the past.They stated an argument about the evidence brought upon. Lethality and Downfall probably had the biggest argument TWR has ever seen so no it's not any biased thing so leave it alone that has nothing to do.All the members posting here viewed the evidence and posted their opinion.

[thesungod]

ancient i am not making excuses..yes our members flamed but lk cant control wat people do...we can only react to the situation which means that before we can get rid of someone they have to break a rules first..

 

 

 

your members knew the rules. If they did not, it falls upon the leader's shoulders, as it is his responsibilty to transcribe it on to his site. Also, the members of the clan represent their own respective clans. Saying that lk "does not have power" over their clan members is also saying lk does not have "responsibilty" over their own members. That, is absurd.

 

 

 

As I recall, LK pulled 30+, thus, it fell to LK's leaders to pick the 30 to fight with. It is not, BY ANY MEANS, Lth's fault they picked the 30 they did. Nor is it the member's themselves. It is LK's leaders.

 

 

 

Right, we cannot physically control our clan to do anything. Calling a pile is more like "recommending" it. But, alas, they came in as "LK's 30", not Lethality's, not some called people, but the 30 that LK brought to fight. If one (or more) of their members broke the rules, that's too bad. They represented LK in this matter, and LK should take the fall.

[bravehero12]

for the record ancient guardian is not in lth. I really suggest all lth stops posting and let mods decide

[AncientGuardians]

Lols, the stuborness of both clans is their downfall. I predict this war is going to be completely nullified unless you can settle on something :P It's really ridiculous that it's just descended into claims of falicy and slander.

 

 

 

ARe you serious??/ You cant keep YOUR OWN MEMBERS from flamming or breaking the rules???? You call that an excuse???? That's like saying :It's not our fault that OUR members can't follow rules or anything that we say. Dude, if you knew the members that are breaking rules and not listing to you, then why even KEEP them as members lol!

 

 

 

Ancient Guardian, the flaw in your argument is this: people will be people and at the end of the day you cannot predict ANYTHING they will do. In real life we have a legal system set up to 'discourage' dangerous actions. On Rs there is NO way to genuinely keep complete control of your members, sabotouers are patient people who can worm their way into clans and then embarass, humiliate and destroy the clan. Quite honestly I don't think any better of Lk for it, but (A) they might already have rebuked or dismissed that member, (B)how can they genuinely KNOW that a member is going to flame? And © how can they stop someone once he starts?

 

 

 

and NO it does not take hours tp figure out if your a muilty clanners or not!

 

 

 

Yes it does, I notice how in some instances people read into the rules too literally, while in other cases they say "no, but it's not in that way, it means in ANOTHER way". A prime example:

 

 

 

How can Lth make claims that The LK member was out of bounds, no exceptions, and then justify that their members "were only out for 5 seconds"? Furthermore, how can you look at THAT rule in a literal sense, but as soon as it comes to the Memberlist rule you can go "A but no, because that's a different KIND of memberlist" the simple fact is you CANNOT, it's simply ridiculous. Either rules should be looked at literally OR with exceptions specified before hand.

 

 

 

I know I'm taking the Lk side most of the time here, but everyone seems to be attacking them because of past actions. From viewing ALL other topics however, it is apparent that Lk have attempted to reform and change. I say you need to lighten up and all stop the hating. They deserve at least ONE more chance. Prejudice is the scourge of society which leads to communication breakdowns and in turn hatred, try to take a less biased approach next time you approach a subject involving a clan you dis-like ;)

 

 

 

P.s. Anceint, there is a strong correlation between people who use green pens and/or 4 or more consecutive pieces of punctuation :L

 

 

 

No see what some clans doesn't understand is that " yes you can make mistakes! But your are accountable for your clan member's acton!" There are many clans who have not HAD ANY trouble following the TWR rules and when they break them they get punished. Yes people will be people, and rules will still be rules, in some cases there ARE NO second chance! And Second chance is not given but earned! LK has NOT done that! After all the argueing and stressing from them and DF, it should have been some what better.

 

 

 

And also yes it's unfair that " somehow" LK just have the worse luck getting members who drag them down and make them lose wars, I personally feel sorry, but in the end NOT my clan! Answer: tough LUCK! Get use to it! If you can't get good members to join you do the right thing then recruit better! Not anyone els's fault that LK can't get members who can't follow orders!

 

 

 

Stuborness is not a downfall but rather view differently by different people. Learn that there is NO Sympathy in everyone, just the few.

 

 

 

But the SIMPLE Fact is, YOU can't not, others CAN! And the rules states as OFFICAL clans, not OFFICAL teams or PC or others.

 

 

 

And when it comes down to it, it's still a matter of how people look at it. The LK out of bounds did NOT effect too much on the war it self, however, by staying out of BOUNDS for 20+ secs and NOT 5 is a RULE broken! We are not making up our own rules, it's clearly in TWR! And yes if LTH wants to they can cancle that rule out, but how do you explain the other ones? Attacking LTH leader knowing they cant attack first! Haveing Muilty clanners before the war even started! Editing the war vid so it will make LK look like they did Nothing wrong?????

 

 

 

The fact that LK ammited of their members breaking rules and muilty clanning is the first strike! LTH never ammited to ANYTHING because there is NOTHING to hide! WHY edit the video if you KNOW you didn't do anything wrong?

 

 

 

Hate is something you have live with! No matter if it's in RS or real life! Some people will like you! Some will hate you! And prejudice will always be with US no matter what! Speaking for my self here, prejudice explains the world where NOT everything is equal! And that goes the same for people as well! We will always love and hate.

 

 

 

I will always point out the positive and not the negative of clans I like! And viceversa I will ALWAYS try to find flaws of clans I dont like, it's MY human nature! I protect the people and friends that I like.

 

 

 

This is no every clans get a cookie whether they did good or bad! The strong lives on and the weak better get stronger or die out...

 

 

 

I enjoy seeing clans rise to the top or clans drop dead to the bottom of low..

[20Rice04]

Lols, the stuborness of both clans is their downfall. I predict this war is going to be completely nullified unless you can settle on something :P It's really ridiculous that it's just descended into claims of falicy and slander.

 

 

 

ARe you serious??/ You cant keep YOUR OWN MEMBERS from flamming or breaking the rules???? You call that an excuse???? That's like saying :It's not our fault that OUR members can't follow rules or anything that we say. Dude, if you knew the members that are breaking rules and not listing to you, then why even KEEP them as members lol!

 

 

 

Ancient Guardian, the flaw in your argument is this: people will be people and at the end of the day you cannot predict ANYTHING they will do. In real life we have a legal system set up to 'discourage' dangerous actions. On Rs there is NO way to genuinely keep complete control of your members, sabotouers are patient people who can worm their way into clans and then embarass, humiliate and destroy the clan. Quite honestly I don't think any better of Lk for it, but (A) they might already have rebuked or dismissed that member, (B)how can they genuinely KNOW that a member is going to flame? And © how can they stop someone once he starts?

 

 

 

and NO it does not take hours tp figure out if your a muilty clanners or not!

 

 

 

Yes it does, I notice how in some instances people read into the rules too literally, while in other cases they say "no, but it's not in that way, it means in ANOTHER way". A prime example:

 

 

 

How can Lth make claims that The LK member was out of bounds, no exceptions, and then justify that their members "were only out for 5 seconds"? Furthermore, how can you look at THAT rule in a literal sense, but as soon as it comes to the Memberlist rule you can go "A but no, because that's a different KIND of memberlist" the simple fact is you CANNOT, it's simply ridiculous. Either rules should be looked at literally OR with exceptions specified before hand.

 

 

 

I know I'm taking the Lk side most of the time here, but everyone seems to be attacking them because of past actions. From viewing ALL other topics however, it is apparent that Lk have attempted to reform and change. I say you need to lighten up and all stop the hating. They deserve at least ONE more chance. Prejudice is the scourge of society which leads to communication breakdowns and in turn hatred, try to take a less biased approach next time you approach a subject involving a clan you dis-like ;)

 

 

 

P.s. Anceint, there is a strong correlation between people who use green pens and/or 4 or more consecutive pieces of punctuation :L

 

 

 

No see what some clans doesn't understand is that " yes you can make mistakes! But your are accountable for your clan member's acton!" There are many clans who have not HAD ANY trouble following the TWR rules and when they break them they get punished. Yes people will be people, and rules will still be rules, in some cases there ARE NO second chance! And Second chance is not given but earned! LK has NOT done that! After all the argueing and stressing from them and DF, it should have been some what better.

 

 

 

And also yes it's unfair that " somehow" LK just have the worse luck getting members who drag them down and make them lose wars, I personally feel sorry, but in the end NOT my clan! Answer: tough LUCK! Get use to it! If you can't get good members to join you do the right thing then recruit better! Not anyone els's fault that LK can't get members who can't follow orders!

 

 

 

Stuborness is not a downfall but rather view differently by different people. Learn that there is NO Sympathy in everyone, just the few.

 

 

 

But the SIMPLE Fact is, YOU can't not, others CAN! And the rules states as OFFICAL clans, not OFFICAL teams or PC or others.

 

 

 

And when it comes down to it, it's still a matter of how people look at it. The LK out of bounds did NOT effect too much on the war it self, however, by staying out of BOUNDS for 20+ secs and NOT 5 is a RULE broken! We are not making up our own rules, it's clearly in TWR! And yes if LTH wants to they can cancle that rule out, but how do you explain the other ones? Attacking LTH leader knowing they cant attack first! Haveing Muilty clanners before the war even started! Editing the war vid so it will make LK look like they did Nothing wrong?????

 

 

 

The fact that LK ammited of their members breaking rules and muilty clanning is the first strike! LTH never ammited to ANYTHING because there is NOTHING to hide! WHY edit the video if you KNOW you didn't do anything wrong?

 

 

 

Hate is something you have live with! No matter if it's in RS or real life! Some people will like you! Some will hate you! And prejudice will always be with US no matter what! Speaking for my self here, prejudice explains the world where NOT everything is equal! And that goes the same for people as well! We will always love and hate.

 

 

 

I will always point out the positive and not the negative of clans I like! And viceversa I will ALWAYS try to find flaws of clans I dont like, it's MY human nature! I protect the people and friends that I like.

 

 

 

This is no every clans get a cookie whether they did good or bad! The strong lives on and the weak better get stronger or die out...

 

 

 

I enjoy seeing clans rise to the top or clans drop dead to the bottom of low..

 

 

 

3 points

 

 

 

1. Your entire argument is flawed at its very core. Allowing your emotions and opinions to become involved stops you thinking RATIONALLY. Remaining neutral is essential to solving these disputes. Honestly, your opinion doesn't matter, it's what you KNOW that matters.

 

 

 

2. Editing the vid doesn't PROVE that LK cheated, it only strengthens this argument.

 

 

 

3. Your 'tough luck' comment is childish and has nothing to back it up. If you're going to make a statement you have to have a reason, motive or evidence to solidify your claims, else they ca be looked upon as a rant.

 

 

 

I can guarantee this war is going to be nullified :)

[True_Ownage]

Well by the looks of things, I can't see how Lk win this, but looks as if it will be nullified.

 

 

 

My 2 cents:

 

 

 

Have a rematch, and before make sure every member are only on the 1 runehead that matters. Also if you're having such an issue with classic bounds then just war in turrets or plateau, simple really.

 

 

 

i thnk rice said it best. lk only has so much control over our members and we as rice pointed out we cant physically keep people from flaming or running out of bounds. there is evidence both clans had multi clanners. lk has worked to rectify this problem and i think we are making progress. watever the outcome lk accepts it

 

 

 

I Lol'd at this tbh. If your members are flaming then it shows they are unable to follow instructions you have set, unless you never said to your clan "No Flaming" and most clans if not all clans should have or already do have a 0-tolerance rule against it. So yes you can keep control of your members, I can say that Lgz members do not flame and do not leave boundaries as they are able to follow instructions that I set them, or they are told the rules. So it's either one of them that Lk didn't do: tell members the rules/members fail to follow instructions.

[Loge_05]

The TWR mods are looking into this, and their outcome will be posted shortly.

[demigod259]

The TWR mods are looking into this, and their outcome will be posted shortly.

 

:shock: hope lk wins

[AncientGuardians]

The TWR mods are looking into this, and their outcome will be posted shortly.

 

 

 

About time. If you need more evdiance Iam sure LTH will be happy to provide you with pic.

[Amateurnoob]

Well by the looks of things, I can't see how Lk win this, but looks as if it will be nullified.

 

 

 

My 2 cents:

 

 

 

Have a rematch, and before make sure every member are only on the 1 runehead that matters. Also if you're having such an issue with classic bounds then just war in turrets or plateau, simple really.

 

 

 

i thnk rice said it best. lk only has so much control over our members and we as rice pointed out we cant physically keep people from flaming or running out of bounds. there is evidence both clans had multi clanners. lk has worked to rectify this problem and i think we are making progress. watever the outcome lk accepts it

 

 

 

I Lol'd at this tbh. If your members are flaming then it shows they are unable to follow instructions you have set, unless you never said to your clan "No Flaming" and most clans if not all clans should have or already do have a 0-tolerance rule against it. So yes you can keep control of your members, I can say that Lgz members do not flame and do not leave boundaries as they are able to follow instructions that I set them, or they are told the rules. So it's either one of them that Lk didn't do: tell members the rules/members fail to follow instructions.

 

 

 

sadly in their rules it says no flaming... I figure if a leader can't obey his own rules how can the clan.

 

 

 

 

 

The TWR mods are looking into this, and their outcome will be posted shortly.

 

:shock: hope lk wins

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Have you even looked at the evidence posted?

[MikeyMontana]

so umm.. lk withdrew from TWR...

 

 

 

Now what?

[Clay_More12]

ooh...i think LTH win, as if mod said to rematch LK can't do that

[20Rice04]

Win to LTH plawks :P :thumbsup:

[Loge_05]

LK went out of bounds, and multi-clanning has nothing to do with the TWR rules because it wasn't an agreed upon rule for the war. LTH wins.

 

 

 

A TWR mod will post the new ranks soon.

[Clay_More12]

yes! gj LTH

[Amateurnoob]

LK went out of bounds, and multi-clanning has nothing to do with the TWR rules because it wasn't an agreed upon rule for the war. LTH wins.

 

 

 

A TWR mod will post the new ranks soon.

 

:thumbsup: good call

[Upper]

: Glad to see the controversy worked out. Hopefully our future wars will include much less drama?

[AncientGuardians]

As expected, it wasn't a hard decission to make. Please be reborn as better and more strict clan LK. -.-

[Loge_05]

189 points to LTH.